Avatar: The Way of Water | 16 DEC 2022 | Don't worry guys, critics like it

[TomCruiseTop]

4 hours ago, Pure Spirit said:

The tinfoil hat part of my brain wonders if Disney my quash this type of buzz for Avatar 2.

I hope not, it's stuff like this that makes Jim's domination even more fun. 

[Pure Spirit]

12 hours ago, JamesCameronScholar said:

I hope not, it's stuff like this that makes Jim's domination even more fun. 

Along the lines of dubious JC buzz, I made this image. Hope you like it.

 

[Pure Spirit]

Avatar Sequels Are Exceeding James Cameron's Expectations

Avatar 2 writer-director James Cameron says in a CineEurope presentation that the early results of his Avatar sequels are "beyond even our expectations." First up, of course, is Avatar 2, one of four planned sequels to the 2009 blockbuster Avatar. The first movie went on to become the all-time highest grossing film release worldwide with $2.78 billion in ticket sales. Plus, it earned nine Oscar nominations - including Best Picture and Best Director - and won statuettes for Best Cinematography, Best Art Direction and Best Visual Effects.

While it took Cameron nearly nine years after the release of the original Avatar to finally begin production on the sequels in September, admittedly he's had justification for the long break in filming. He has been developing technology to raise the visual effects bar above the already towering standards set by the first film. Further, Cameron has not only expanded the cast to include the children of Jake Sully (Sam Worthington) and Neytiri (Zoe Saldana), he's going beyond the breathtaking vistas of Pandora from the first film by expanding the action to the seas of the distant planet.

 

According to Deadline, Cameron's production partner, Jon Landau, appeared at the CineEurope trade show in Barcelona, Spain, to introduce a video feed of Cameron on the set of the Avatar sequels, where the director said he's 130 days into performance capture production. Deadline reports the Oscar-winning filmmaker did his presentation in front of a giant water tank, where he noted that water "plays a huge part" of the sequels and that the films will take audiences to "never before seen parts of Pandora." Also boasting that new cast member Kate Winslet can hold her breath underwater for seven minutes, Cameron noted that the early results produced by filming "are beyond even our expectations."

 

 

While it's true that Cameron is a master promoter of his films and one could cast his comments off to the sort of hype any director would have in touting their work during production, there's no question that when the Avatar auteur makes promises, he puts his money where his mouth is. The filmmaker raised the bar for high-seas adventure films when 1997's Titanic went on to earn $2.1 billion at the global box office and win 11 Oscars, including Best Picture and Best Director. Then, he did the seemingly impossible by topping the then-all-time domestic and global box office records set by Titanic with Avatar a dozen years later.

 

Fans, naturally, will be the final judge of whether Avatar 2 lives up to the high expectations Cameron is setting when the film comes out in 2020. Avatar 3 is then set for a 2021, release, while the fourth and fifth chapters are dated to come out in 2024 and 2025, respectively.

 

https://screenrant.com/avatar-sequels-james-cameron-praise/

 

Edited June 14, 2018 by Pure Spirit

[TomCruiseTop]

20 Billion WORLDWIDE. 

[Juby]

Good one. 

 

It's hard to believe that after +$2.7B of the first Avatar, its sequel could go under $2B worldwide, especially after 11 years of growing tickets prices, 3D and IMAX screens, exploding OS markets like China, and great audience reception of the first film in 2009. But I can give You my first and absolutely lowest, worst-case scenario, unrelistic forecast for untitled "Avatar 2".

 

Domestic: $550 mln ($154 mln opening - twice as much as the first Avatar did - and more/less typical December multiple for a blockbuster)

+ Foreign: $1.01B (at least couple of millions more than The Force Awakens).

+ China: $410 mln (at least twice as much as the first Avatar did in 2010 and more than any Hollywood film did for now)

= Worldwide: $1.97B

 

 

[TomCruiseTop]

24 minutes ago, Juby said:

Good one. 

 

It's hard to believe that after +$2.7B of the first Avatar, its sequel could go under $2B worldwide, especially after 11 years of growing tickets prices, 3D and IMAX screens, exploding OS markets like China, and great audience reception of the first film in 2009. But I can give You my first and absolutely lowest, worst-case scenario, unrelistic forecast for untitled "Avatar 2".

 

Domestic: $550 mln ($154 mln opening - twice as much as the first Avatar did - and more/less typical December multiple for a blockbuster)

+ Foreign: $1.01B (at least couple of millions more than The Force Awakens).

+ China: $410 mln (at least twice as much as the first Avatar did in 2010 and more than any Hollywood film did for now)

= Worldwide: $1.97B

 

 

I can agree to this as doomsday numbers. 

[IronJimbo]

http://www.boxofficereport.com/trailerviews/owyoutuberatios.html

 

the ratios are all over the place, end this meme

[Pure Spirit]

1 hour ago, IronJimbo said:

http://www.boxofficereport.com/trailerviews/owyoutuberatios.html

 

the ratios are all over the place, end this meme

Nice find. B-b-but Alita doesn’t have a trillion trailer views it’s going to bomb.

[IronJimbo]

13 hours ago, Pure Spirit said:

Nice find. B-b-but Alita doesn’t have a trillion trailer views it’s going to bomb.

I swear I made that post in the weekend thread because it's not really relevant here. Avatar 2 will have a trillions of youtube views and ticket sales.

 

 

[NCsoft]

On 6/15/2018 at 6:00 AM, Juby said:

Good one. 

 

It's hard to believe that after +$2.7B of the first Avatar, its sequel could go under $2B worldwide, especially after 11 years of growing tickets prices, 3D and IMAX screens, exploding OS markets like China, and great audience reception of the first film in 2009. But I can give You my first and absolutely lowest, worst-case scenario, unrelistic forecast for untitled "Avatar 2".

  

Domestic: $550 mln ($154 mln opening - twice as much as the first Avatar did - and more/less typical December multiple for a blockbuster)

+ Foreign: $1.01B (at least couple of millions more than The Force Awakens).

+ China: $410 mln (at least twice as much as the first Avatar did in 2010 and more than any Hollywood film did for now)

= Worldwide: $1.97B

 

 

This is a nightmarish worst-case scenario, domestic and OS numbers aside, can you imagine Avatar 2 in 2020 (actually, more like 2021) doing about the same number as Furious 7 did in 2015? That's a disastrous Chinese performance.😂

[IronJimbo]

52 minutes ago, NCsoft said:

This is a nightmarish worst-case scenario, domestic and OS numbers aside, can you imagine Avatar 2 in 2020 (actually, more like 2021) doing about the same number as Furious 7 did in 2015? That's a disastrous Chinese performance.😂

Yeah there's no way that happens, Avatar was the best performance in China of any hollywood film.

 

Here's some perspective, before the Avatar was released the reigning champ was the film "2012" (released 2009) which made $68.7m there.

 

Avatar TRIPLED the reigning champs gross and made $204m

 

 

 

From this we can extrapolate that Avatar 2 will make 3x wolf warrior and makes $2b from china alone

Edited June 17, 2018 by IronJimbo

[Pure Spirit]

10 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:

From this we can extrapolate that Avatar 2 will make 3x wolf warrior and makes $2b from china alone

[IronJimbo]

4 minutes ago, Pure Spirit said:

That's one intelligent looking toad! Did you make that? lol

[Stewart]

20 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:

 

From this we can extrapolate that Avatar 2 will make 3x wolf warrior and makes $2b from china alone

 

*calculating*

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*checking twice* 

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Math checks out!

[Pure Spirit]

12 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:

That's one intelligent looking toad! Did you make that? lol

No, I get a lot of my OC from a daily Avatar 2 countdown thread on a mongolian underwater basket weaving forum.

 

If you want to Na'vify your own toad (or other image), here's a guide:

 

Spoiler

915 days left

 

[Avatree]

Guess what I am sitting in the cinema waiting to begin...

[IronJimbo]

18 minutes ago, Ranger Tree said:

Guess what I am sitting in the cinema waiting to begin...

god I wish I were you

[Avatree]

Fucking incredible. James Cameron is a genius. I knew I liked avatar but this was really special. I am completely sold on the JC hype train.

[TomCruiseTop]

9 hours ago, IronJimbo said:

Yeah there's no way that happens, Avatar was the best performance in China of any hollywood film.

 

Here's some perspective, before the Avatar was released the reigning champ was the film "2012" (released 2009) which made $68.7m there.

 

Avatar TRIPLED the reigning champs gross and made $204m

 

 

 

From this we can extrapolate that Avatar 2 will make 3x wolf warrior and makes $2b from china alone

What the hell is wrong with him? Why is he green? 

[GirafficPark]

I dont think that Alita will be any indication of A2s potential. Cameron is only a producer for it as far as the public knows, they couldn't care less about that, plenty of popular directors have been producers on total bombs, on both TV and the big screen.

 

'Producer' also dont mean they have any influence or effect. For example JJ Abrams is a producer on Westworld, but obviously he had little effect on it because its actually well planned, intelligent and good.