Jack Nevada Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Boring.2,5/5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddddeeee Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 (edited) My man Maurice learning to read and teaching the baby apes. Maurice speaking. Maurice being a pacifist and loyal to Caesar but helping to knock that bus down when shit got real. Maurice chilling with Caesar talking about life back in 'nam. Maurice getting shot. They did do a great job of helping us see where Koba was coming from but once he shot Maurice he had to go. Edited July 19, 2014 by ddddeeee 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormhole Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 I don't like how manipulative this film is, I mean we see a lot Apes dying in the battle with dramatic music, and yet we barely see any human loss. Saw it for a second time today. Disagree with this. Koba shooting the guards. The tank shot. Dreyfus ducking for cover and seeing the kid dead. Humans struggling as apes carry them away when Malcolm went back for the surgical equipment. As for the two guys with Malcolm, I just assumed the apes killed them. Didn't think it was important at all. And as for the "there's no one to root for" argument: isn't that the point? You don't simply root for the apes or for the humans. You see that the two sides both have "humanity" within them and root for them to find peace, which is what makes the movie so tense and the action so impactful. Rooting for the apes at times doesn't mean you're rooting for humans to be put in cages. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goffe Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 he was trying to protect himself and his fellow apes. Ultimately Koba was seeking revenge, and the Apes leader position came as a bonus. if he cared so much for his fellow Apes, why would he kill that Ape the refused to kill a human? There was nothing to be sympathized about. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goffe Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 And as for the "there's no one to root for" argument: isn't that the point? Sorry, but how "isn't that the point" invalidates "no one to root for" argument? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squaremaster316 Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 Just got back... Fantastic movie! The best thing about it... no stupid, pointless comedy moments. No "cute" references to previous Apes installments, no stale pop culture references like calling Koba "Scarface/Al Pacino" or other such nonsense. No Wink, wink, nudge, nudge crap. The closest thing to brevity seen throughout the film is "The Weight" playing at a 7/11 It took an admittedly absurd concept, grounded it, and made it work by giving the story and characters the proper amount of seriousness they warranted, and was all the better for it. One of the best post-Nolan Batman films to truly get it right! 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4815162342 Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 My man Maurice learning to read and teaching the baby apes. Maurice speaking. Maurice being a pacifist and loyal to Caesar but helping to knock that bus down when shit got real. Maurice chilling with Caesar talking about life back in 'nam. Maurice getting shot. They did do a great job of helping us see where Koba was coming from but once he shot Maurice he had to go. That crazy old Maurice 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 My man Maurice learning to read and teaching the baby apes. Maurice speaking. Maurice being a pacifist and loyal to Caesar but helping to knock that bus down when shit got real. Maurice chilling with Caesar talking about life back in 'nam. Maurice getting shot. They did do a great job of helping us see where Koba was coming from but once he shot Maurice he had to go.Best reaction and review I've seen so far. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 I just found out that the actress who plays maurice also played Mrs. Peacock in what was certainly the creepiest. x-files. episode. ever. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glassfairy Posted July 19, 2014 Share Posted July 19, 2014 B+. Too long. None of the humans were interesting in the least so half of the human only parts could have been cut to shorten the film and tighten it up. Other than that there's nothing to complain about (I mean it was hella dark sometimes on screen but most of the time it made sense for it to be so dark so I can't even complain). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralKong Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 B+ It's a bit too long and some of the human characters came off as rather stock-like, but I really enjoyed it nonetheless. The four main leads (Kebbell, Serkis, Clarke, Russell) are all solid, and I liked that the central conflict was presented in a complex manner, rather than being another black and white/good vs. evil spectacle. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hiccup Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 Dawn of the Planet of the Apes is incredible summer blockbuster that not only has stunning and Academy Award winning visual effects but a powerfully emotional film that will make the audience tear up in many scenes. The film challenges audience's views on animal rights, war, gun control, and equality. The film's message that peace, equality, and unity are essential for a stable society/world is perfectly handled and well written. Bravo Fox! I can't wait until July 2016!!! 9.75/10 BTW big shout out to Maurice! 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wormhole Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 (edited) Sorry, but how "isn't that the point" invalidates "no one to root for" argument? Because the fact that it's not a black-and-white "root for the good guys to defeat the bad guys" affair is a good thing imo. The key to making a good action film is making the audience care about the characters, and this film made me care about characters on both sides of the fight. That's ambitious. It made me dread the violence, not look forward to it, like most films these days do. Edited July 20, 2014 by Wormhole 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 One of the best post-Nolan Batman films to truly get it right! Oh, Squaremaster 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 Oh, SquaremasterIKR? He never ceases to amaze me. A rather fascinating man. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaijukurt Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 (edited) My man Maurice learning to read and teaching the baby apes. Maurice speaking. Maurice being a pacifist and loyal to Caesar but helping to knock that bus down when shit got real. Maurice chilling with Caesar talking about life back in 'nam. Maurice getting shot. They did do a great job of helping us see where Koba was coming from but once he shot Maurice he had to go. ^THIS. SO MUCH I think a Maurice death would be the saddest scene to ever grace this franchise Edited July 20, 2014 by kaijukurt 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blankments Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 That crazy old Maurice Koba: Blue Eyes, I have been thinking Blue Eyes: Not again! Koba: Oh, I know But I have been watching your father And his sanity's only so-so Now the wheels in my head have been turning, oh Blue Since I looked at all the humans I promised myself to look out for all apes And right now I'm evolving a plan! If I... Blue Eyes: Huh? Koba: Then we... Blue Eyes: I don't think... Koba: APES STRONG TOGETHER Blue Eyes: ok Koba: Let's go! No one plots like Koba Blue Eyes: Takes cheap shots like Koba Koba: Plans to persecute popular leaders quite like Koba Yes, I'm endlessly, wildly resourceful Blue Eyes: As down to the depths you descend Koba: I won't even be mildly remorseful Both: Just as long as I (you) get what I (you) want in the end Koba: Who has brains like Koba? Blue Eyes: Give bloodstains like Koba? Who can make up these endless refrains like Koba? Koba: And my ascension will soon be worth celebrating My what a ape Koba! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinHood26 Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 ^THIS. SO MUCH I think a Maurice death would be the saddest scene to ever grace this franchise Its happening in the next movie I feel so get ready. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 Oh, Squaremaster while he is one dimensional in his views, nothing wrong in this view. Dawn does ace that aspect very well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 Koba: Blue Eyes, I have been thinking Blue Eyes: Not again! Koba: Oh, I know But I have been watching your father And his sanity's only so-so Now the wheels in my head have been turning, oh Blue Since I looked at all the humans I promised myself to look out for all apes And right now I'm evolving a plan! If I... Blue Eyes: Huh? Koba: Then we... Blue Eyes: I don't think... Koba: APES STRONG TOGETHER Blue Eyes: ok Koba: Let's go! No one plots like Koba Blue Eyes: Takes cheap shots like Koba Koba: Plans to persecute popular leaders quite like Koba Yes, I'm endlessly, wildly resourceful Blue Eyes: As down to the depths you descend Koba: I won't even be mildly remorseful Both: Just as long as I (you) get what I (you) want in the end Koba: Who has brains like Koba? Blue Eyes: Give bloodstains like Koba? Who can make up these endless refrains like Koba? Koba: And my ascension will soon be worth celebrating My what a ape Koba! I know you like doing bullshit like this, but keep it out of the review threads man. please and thank you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...