Disney's A Wrinkle in Time | 9th March, 2018 | Frozen's Jennifer Lee writing, Ava DuVernay directing. 45% on RT

[MrGamer]

4 minutes ago, dudalb said:

It's all about the expectations. The higher the expectations, the more you have to deliver.

And if don't think this was not being hyped as a film that would change cinema,you have not been following the film very much. See the Time Magazine cover story in particular.

 

17 minutes ago, MrGamer said:

lolwut

 

[Premium George]

Just now, Mojoguy said:

There was bound to be less excitement for Wrinkle after BP.
The same thing applied to Wonder Woman last year.

What applied to wonder woman last year?

And BP and AWiT have nothing in common other than being directed by black directors. A MCU "at it's peak" SH movie and a sci-fi movie. And different reviews.

[Fancyarcher]

5 minutes ago, dudalb said:

It's all about the expectations. The higher the expectations, the more you have to deliver.

And if don't think this was not being hyped as a film that would change cinema,you have not been following the film very much. See the Time Magazine cover story in particular.

Nobody was calling it a "revolutionary" masterpiece though. 

[Nova]

7 minutes ago, Mojoguy said:

There was bound to be less excitement for Wrinkle after BP.
The same thing applied to Wonder Woman last year.

Nobody gave a crap about Justice League after Wonder Woman because her solo movie already came out.

What? A wrinkle in time has absolutely nothing to do with Black Panther. They're not even similar types of movies. Whereas Wonder Woman is actually part of Justice League. If Black Panther didn't have a predominately black cast and a black director (like AWIT) you wouldn't even think about connecting it to AWIT.

 

Think about what that says about you as an individual. 

Edited March 7, 2018 by Nova

[Mojoguy]

What applied to wonder woman last year?

And BP and AWiT have nothing in common other than being directed by black directors. A MCU "at it's peak" SH movie and a sci-fi movie. And different reviews.

Nobody cared about Justice League after Wonder Woman because her solo movie already came out.

It's all about the hype and excitement. With Coogler and BP being deservedly pushed hard by the media, DuVernay is going to get overshadowed a bit.
Edited March 7, 2018 by Mojoguy

[Deja23]

8 minutes ago, Mojoguy said:

There was bound to be less excitement for Wrinkle after BP.
The same thing applied to Wonder Woman last year.

Nobody gave a crap about Justice League after Wonder Woman because her solo movie already came out.

The logic on display here is mind boggling. 

[MrGamer]

5 minutes ago, Fancyarcher said:

Nobody was calling it a "revolutionary" masterpiece though. 

Exactly. The only "revolutionary" thing about this movie is the fact that DuVernay, a black woman, was directing a $100M studio film, which IS a big deal. I haven't seen anybody treating this as some "revolutionary masterpiece" or the second coming of Christ or whatever. Besides, that movie's not coming out until 2020 when Avatar 2 comes out (you're welcome, @IronJimbo).  

Edited March 7, 2018 by MrGamer

[Porthos]

Just now, Mojoguy said:

 

Nobody cared about Justice League after Wonder Woman because her solo movie already came out.

It's all about the hype and excitement. With Coogler and BP being pushed hard by the media, DuVernay is going to get overshadowed a bit.

Film A: Destined to open up at least 100m OW long before folks realized how great it was; eventually hit the stratosphere and a 200m+ OW.

Film B: Destined to open up between 30m and mid 40m and MAAAAAAAYBE hit mid-50's OW if the stars aligned.

 

Yes... Seems like the perfect movies to compare, if you ask me.

[dudalb]

Or maybe Durvaney was just not the right choice for this material?

[Premium George]

9 minutes ago, Mojoguy said:

 

Nobody cared about Justice League after Wonder Woman because her solo movie already came out.

It's all about the hype and excitement. With Coogler and BP being pushed hard by the media, DuVernay is going to get overshadowed a bit.

I understand what you are trying to say. But WW didn't have much impact on BvS, and BP didn't have much impact on civil war. It's all about them leading the movies.

And I think BP actually put this movie more in spotlight. Also BP was not special just cos of a black director, there have been blockbusters with them. AWiT would not have made crazy numbers even if BP didn't exist. 

[Mojoguy]

Were there any big movies with a black director besides Peele's Get Out last year? I can't remember because the media sure as heck didn't push them.

Edited March 7, 2018 by Mojoguy

[Porthos]

4 minutes ago, dudalb said:

Or maybe Durvaney was just not the right choice for this material?

Maybe she wasn't.  But I think comparing A Wrinkle in Time and Black Panther when it comes to box office expectations is... Not a good idea.

 

If one must, compare AWiT to the first Alice film or the first Narnia movie or something similar.  Even there, it's STILL a different genre of family film, but at least it's vaguely in the right ballpark. 

Edited March 7, 2018 by Porthos

[Zakiyyah6]

Get Out has nothing to do with this conversation. 

[IronJimbo]

5 minutes ago, MrGamer said:

Exactly. The only "revolutionary" thing about this movie is the fact that DuVernay, a black woman, was directing a $100M studio film, which IS a big deal. I haven't seen anybody treating this as some "revolutionary masterpiece" or the second coming of Christ or whatever. Besides, that movie's not coming out until 2020 when Avatar 2 comes out (you're welcome, @IronJimbo).  

everything else in 2020 is redundant

[Noctis]

1 minute ago, IronJimbo said:

everything else in 2020 is redundant

Even FB3?

[CaptainJackSparrow]

2 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:

everything else in 2020 is redundant

Not Kong VS Godzilla!

 

(Or Spongebob 3)

[IronJimbo]

1 minute ago, Noctis said:

Even FB3?

only in relative terms... A2 is new age of cinema.. FB3 will be a great film.

[Premium George]

9 minutes ago, Mojoguy said:

Were there any big movies with a black director besides Peele's Get Out last year? I can't remember because the media sure as heck didn't push them.

Fast 8.

[grim22]

10 minutes ago, Mojoguy said:

Were there any big movies with a black director besides Peele's Get Out last year? I can't remember because the media sure as heck didn't push them.

 

There was a billion dollar grossing movie I think, I am racking my brain in a fast and furious manner to recall what it was, but I am unable to.

[WrathOfHan]

1 minute ago, grim22 said:

 

There was a billion dollar grossing movie I think, I am racking my brain in a fast and furious manner to recall what it was, but I am unable to.

He said last year.

 

EDIT OOPS FORGOT F8

 

Also, Girls Trip

Edited March 7, 2018 by WrathOfHan