Lordmandeep Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 yes it is because thg is smart and good while marvel is dumb and good I think THG series lost its moral high ground with the critic score with this movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 That part. I have nothing to do with Lionsgate so what does it matter if they're swimming in cash? I'm not gonna pretend that 125m is a good number in 2014 when it's just not. Right. You can pretend or not pretend all you want. Doesn't change the fact that 125 mill is an enormous amount of money. It doesn't become less money because Lab276 thinks it's a bad number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctis Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 I think THG series lost its moral high ground with the critic score with this movie. Still better than a lot of Marvel flicks. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmandeep Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 It's still like one of the Top 15-20 biggest openers ever (don't have the list in front of me). What a flop. Its all relative. CF is one of the biggest opening weekends ever even adjusted this falls way down once you adjusts things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctis Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 125m is big. MJ1 is gonna bring in a lot of money for Lionsgate. Yes, its gross is still disappointing when compared to its predecessors. No need to spin that. But losing 20% of its audience on OW is not encouraging. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmandeep Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) And how exactly does this matter? It's not a dick measuring contest. It's all about money and THG is allowing LG to swim in it. Records and such are for nerds like us. To get big box office in a front loaded world records have to be broken usually ot near record breaking. Or either you have a run like Frozen. Edited November 23, 2014 by Lordmandeep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lab276 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) Right. You can pretend or not pretend all you want. Doesn't change the fact that 125 mill is an enormous amount of money. It doesn't become less money because Lab276 thinks it's a bad number. It would have been an enormous sum of money for IS to make on OW, or any movie really, but not for the number one opener of the year. If that makes sense. Edited November 23, 2014 by lab276 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Jedi Master 007 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Its all relative. CF is one of the biggest opening weekends ever even adjusted this falls way down once you adjusts things. So? By that logic, almost everything today is unimpressive. Adjusting grosses always makes today's movies come off worse than previous films, but I don't see how that makes MJ1's # bad. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchumacherFTW Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Put it this way, it's the worst biggest OW of the year since 2000. And we're living in an increasingly frontloaded world. Actually 2006. Pirates was the only thing to beat Spidey' $114m at that point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 125M for MJ1 is mediocre. This is like Pirates 3 OW. It was big but fell way below expectations and tracking. No way to spin that as anything but disappointing. Its like hobbit 1 OW as well. That was quite decent for december but disappointing considering most tracking had that over 100M and it was a franchise flick. MJ1 should have at least opened to 140M considering how rabid the fan base is. The fact that previews dropped by 33% showed how disappointing it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctis Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 MJ1's numbers are disappointing. Fact. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJohn Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 It is a meh number when we look inside the franchise, and even when we take it out of it, it still continues to be meh. It is going to be below Breaking Dawn Part 1 and Deathly Hallows Part 1, and no movie in those franchises ever grossed 424M DOM. This one will probably end with 100M less than CF. It is crazy. Yes, it is still a huge moneymaker, but it is a disappointing opening anyway. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lab276 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Actually 2006. Pirates was the only thing to beat Spidey' $114m at that point. Adjusted I mean. Matrix Reloaded falls ever so slightly behind, but it also burned off 42m before Friday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmandeep Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Actually 2006. Pirates was the only thing to beat Spidey' $114m at that point. True but we all know ROTS and Spiderman 2 would easily demolished the record if they were 3 day openings. So? By that logic, almost everything today is unimpressive. Adjusting grosses always makes today's movies come off worse than previous films, but I don't see how that makes MJ1's # bad. No everything this year has been a bit unimpressive, 2013 and 2012 had big openings and mega domestic hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Jedi Master 007 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 True but we all know ROTS and Spiderman 2 would easily demolished the record if they were 3 day openings. No everything this year has been a bit unimpressive, 2013 and 2012 had big openings and mega domestic hits. The year's been unimpressive; MJ1's gross hasn't. 125m for a film that a lot of people were going to skip because "nothing happens in it" is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 True but we all know ROTS and Spiderman 2 would easily demolished the record if they were 3 day openings. No everything this year has been a bit unimpressive, 2013 and 2012 had big openings and mega domestic hits. Matrix 2 would have taken the OW record if it had 3 day OW as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4815162342 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 Named my Dragon Age character as Cooper. It was either that or Dr. Mann Not getting my Xbone until Christmas, so I won't be getting Dragon Age til then. In theory it gives me another month to try and get through the 360 backlog I have but I'm spending my free time playing X-Wing and TIE Fighter now that they've been re-released for modern PCs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lab276 Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 So? By that logic, almost everything today is unimpressive. Adjusting grosses always makes today's movies come off worse than previous films, but I don't see how that makes MJ1's # bad. I'm not trying to make films today look unimpressive (box office wise), they're doing that all on their own. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmandeep Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) The year's been unimpressive; MJ1's gross hasn't. 125m for a film that a lot of people were going to skip because "nothing happens in it" is great. No no no Compared to Twilight and DH1 this is a crazy drop. From a box office point of view and a financial point of view this is an underperformance. One needs to realize in the world of movies, yes this Movie will make money. However this movie is what we call a "sure thing" or a cash cow. Due to the underperformance the cash flow from this movie will be lower then expected and therefore the studio will not make as much as expected and then their stock will suffer. Nevertheless, by splitting into two they will make a lot more money then one film but it appears the benefit from splitting it in two will not be as big as expected. It seems to me the general audience do not find the revolution storyline interesting at all compared to the games. Edited November 23, 2014 by Lordmandeep 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxOfficeFangrl Posted November 23, 2014 Share Posted November 23, 2014 (edited) Why can't it be a lot of money (relative to what we'll all ever make) and a disappointment? If the final gross drops $90-100M from the Catching Fire, why do we have to act like it's the most awesomest thing ever? Edited November 23, 2014 by BoxOfficeChica 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
