CoolioD1 Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 Movie segregation is a hateful concept that is defended by the snob cinephile elite. Free movies of tags, niches and genres. Embrace them all. I agree, but demanding people like the movies that you like is even worse. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Old Tele Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 There's no segregation. Make good movies that connect with your audience in a deeply meaningful way, and you'll get recognition. If you want to be rewarded by a certain subset of that audience, make your films connect with that subset. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4815162342 Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 All lies, though IS will get a nod. I have foreseen it. Now that Hasan is going to disappear till the next Nolan film comes out, it's up to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 I agree, but demanding people like the movies that you like is even worse. I'm not demanding anyone to like anything, I'm telling two movies that are deserving of a nom not because I like them but because of how many people feel about them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Old Tele Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 I'm not demanding anyone to like anything, I'm telling two movies that are deserving of a nom not because I like them but because of how many people feel about them. But the job of the Academy is not to award a movie because other people like them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 There's no segregation. Make good movies that connect with your audience in a deeply meaningful way, and you'll get recognition. If you want to be rewarded by a certain subset of that audience, make your films connect with that subset. Actually, exactly because blockbusters make so much money it means they connect with the audience. And considering the way you can become an Academy member it's pretty clear it's a vicious circle going around. Old snobs will only pick others like them to judge. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 I'm not demanding anyone to like anything, I'm telling two movies that are deserving of a nom not because I like them but because of how many people feel about them. That's why the people's choice awards exists, isn't it? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Empire Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 If a blockbuster is great enough it will get nominated with a few exceptions of course. I have no problem with the Academy not nominating one every year and even if a blockbuster I feel is great doesn't get nominated, it doesn't bother me. Well, except ESB. It should have won best picture. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 That's why the people's choice awards exists, isn't it? But the Oscars are considered more prestigious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Empire Posted December 7, 2014 Share Posted December 7, 2014 But the Oscars are considered more prestigious. They are and that is why they shouldn't nominate the obligatory blockbuster every year just to please the masses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 They are and that is why they shouldn't nominate the obligatory blockbuster every year just to please the masses. But they shouldn't ignore them either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Old Tele Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 But they shouldn't ignore them either. But they don't. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Futurist Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 There's no segregation. Make good movies that connect with your audience in a deeply meaningful way, and you'll get recognition. If you want to be rewarded by a certain subset of that audience, make your films connect with that subset. You won't win the argument that the old geezers of AMPAS don't have a bias towards certain genres, the segregation is de facto real. Middle Earth won because it had Tolkien s street cred behind it and I am confident that without the books, the LOTR films would have gone nowhere with AMPAS except the tech categories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Old Tele Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 You won't win the argument that the old geezers of AMPAS don't have a bias towards certain genres, the segregation is de facto real. Middle Earth won because it had Tolkien s street cred behind it and I am confident that without the books, the LOTR films would have gone nowhere with AMPAS except the tech categories. Street cred? The fact remains that the Academy consistently nominates movies that've done really well at the box-office, and even have done so when there were only 5 nominees. The only change is that now fanboys refuse to accept critical and/or financial success and now demand awards as well. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Street cred? The fact remains that the Academy consistently nominates movies that've done really well at the box-office, and even have done so when there were only 5 nominees. The only change is that now fanboys refuse to accept critical and/or financial success and now demand awards as well. Not really. There are a lot critically well received blockbusters that are completely left out because the Academy never even nominated their genre. Example: DH2 got 96% on RT, higer than King's Speech, that won BP in 2011. Truth be told, the only thing the Academy nominates are adult dramas. Like, from all the movies last year they gave BP to 12 Years A Slave. It was laughable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Futurist Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Street cred? The fact remains that the Academy consistently nominates movies that've done really well at the box-office, and even have done so when there were only 5 nominees. The only change is that now fanboys refuse to accept critical and/or financial success and now demand awards as well. Why using the word fanboy as a derogatory term like that ? AMPAS were stuttering king of england fanboys too, booh, bad AMPAS fanboys, the are more predictable than Marvel or Nolan fanboys ! Why always this need to divide people into categories ? People like what they like and there is no need to give them a derogatory or condescending description. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4815162342 Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Not really. There are a lot critically well received blockbusters that are completely left out because the Academy never even nominated their genre. Example: DH2 got 96% on RT, higer than King's Speech, that won BP in 2011. Truth be told, the only thing the Academy nominates are adult dramas. Like, from all the movies last year they gave BP to 12 Years A Slave. It was laughable. RT% measures how many critics thought positively, not how positive they were. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 RT% measures how many critics thought positively, not how positive they were. DH2 also got an 8.3/10 rating so that is very positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookie Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Considering the AMPAS voters are complete tools when it comes to animated features, of course Frozen wouldn't have been nominated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plain Old Tele Posted December 8, 2014 Share Posted December 8, 2014 Not really. There are a lot critically well received blockbusters that are completely left out because the Academy never even nominated their genre. Example: DH2 got 96% on RT, higer than King's Speech, that won BP in 2011. Truth be told, the only thing the Academy nominates are adult dramas. Like, from all the movies last year they gave BP to 12 Years A Slave. It was laughable. RT means nothing. And there's nothing wrong wih giving 12 SLAVES Best Picture, it was an excellent movie. All you're doing is revealing *your* biases. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
