Warhorse Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 The line of thinking seems to be that they want studios to stop making these kinds of franchise entries "nobody asked for" because they squeeze out better (usually original) movies that could have been made/released instead. They want "bad" franchises (franchises they don't like) to be punished, not rewarded. To people like this, it's those dumb GA moviegoers in (whatever country/market - USA, China, wherever) ruining cinema by being stupid enough to prolong the life of a franchise that should be dead by all rights if this were a just world. In short: "How dare anybody like this, the people who do are ruining the movie industry." Yeah, and I guess same people don't realize those franchises that the GA go to is what helps studios fund smaller oscar worthy projects that only film critics can seem to digest. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TServo2049 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) Yeah, and I guess same people don't realize those franchises that the GA go to is what helps studios fund smaller oscar worthy projects that only film critics can seem to digest. I was actually referring to people who say these "unnecessary" franchise sequels and attempted reboots are killing off the original tentpoles and mid-budget programmers, not art films. The people who think popular entertainments should not all be sequels and (worse yet) poor attempts to recycled franchise from prior decades. Edited August 24, 2015 by TServo2049 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TServo2049 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) As I suspected, the gap between Minions and IO isn't going to end up very much. Minions pulling similar numbers to IO at the same point and 9m behind. Wouldn't be shocked if Minions finishes less than 10m behind. But...but...TOXIC WOM! Edited August 24, 2015 by TServo2049 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 You guys are going to make fun of me, but tonight I saw MI5 and it was the first MI movie I have ever seen. Surprisingly I was not lost. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonwo Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I was actually referring to people who say these "unnecessary" franchise sequels and attempted reboots are killing off the original tentpoles and mid-budget programmers, not art films. The people who think popular entertainments should not all be sequels and (worse yet) poor attempts to recycled franchise from prior decades. TBH mid budget films are still being made but not in huge droves nor in prime months. Even Disney, who only a few years back said they'd only make tentpoles have made a few low to mid budget films in the last few years and have two in 2016 with The Finest Hours and The Queen of Katwe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TServo2049 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 TBH mid budget films are still being made but not in huge droves nor in prime months. Even Disney, who only a few years back said they'd only make tentpoles have made a few low to mid budget films in the last few years and have two in 2016 with The Finest Hours and The Queen of Katwe. True. Most of the complaints I hear are about non-sequel tentpoles getting squeezed out, with mid-budget films being a second. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Market Share for Each Source 1995-2015 Rank Source Movies Total Box Office Tickets Share 1 Original Screenplay 5,723 $84,261,254,168 13,526,852,507 34.01% 2 Based on Fiction Book/Short Story 1,606 $40,053,861,450 6,266,325,503 16.17% 3 Based on Comic/Graphic Novel 154 $13,166,709,084 1,853,712,600 5.31% 4 Remake 276 $10,230,933,730 1,650,229,419 4.13% 5 Based on TV 197 $9,883,342,296 1,536,207,496 3.99% 6 Based on Real Life Events 2,124 $9,049,210,787 1,406,221,587 3.65% 7 Based on Factual Book/Article 123 $4,408,689,893 630,092,465 1.78% 8 Based on Folk Tale/Legend/Fairytale 55 $2,414,278,789 333,893,043 0.97% 9 Spin-Off 27 $1,946,469,217 259,818,550 0.79% 10 Based on Play 214 $1,891,986,396 300,247,675 0.76% 11 Based on Theme Park Ride 7 $1,372,018,326 206,121,497 0.55% 12 Based on Game 35 $1,051,351,974 164,771,563 0.42% 13 Based on Religious Text 24 $785,345,892 122,912,065 0.32% 14 Based on Musical or Opera 31 $706,648,249 111,992,540 0.29% 15 Based on Short Film 29 $621,759,815 92,847,214 0.25% 16 Based on Toy 6 $585,921,457 77,551,174 0.24% 17 Compilation 26 $95,631,466 16,386,934 0.04% 18 Based on Movie 7 $51,605,092 7,212,306 0.02% 19 Based on Musical Group 4 $32,791,360 6,672,412 0.01% 20 Based on Ballet 3 $1,202,981 233,778 0.00% 21 Based on Web Series 1 $1,380 173 0.00% 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonwo Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 True. Most of the complaints I hear are about non-sequel tentpoles getting squeezed out, with mid-budget films being a second. I do wonder if something like Gone Girl or American Sniper would have done well as they did had they been released in say June or July rather than October and January. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfHan Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) The advertising for Transporter is really making it known that it has IMAX lol Edited August 24, 2015 by WrathOfHan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mojoguy Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Why? If you don't care to see the franchise, then don't see it. I never understood this line of thinking. It's selflish. If people are liking the movies, and the studios don't mind forking out more cash to make future movies, then so be it, it's not coming out of your pocket. Stop defending trashy movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 What I forgot to add: 1995-1999 they released 176 to 186 Original Screenplay Movies per year according to The-Numbers out of 280 (1995) to 385 (1999) movies in complete 2014 it was a bit more = 389 out of now 699 movies One of the many problems certain movies have: too much competition for a market with ~ decreasing admissions, stoped for a bit by e.g. 2009 Avatar, 2012 TDKR/Avengers.... 1995 1996 1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 Tickets (billion) 1.22 1.27 1.42 1.45 1.44 1.39 1.44 1.58 1.55 1.47 1.39 1.41 1.40 1.39 1.42 1.33 1.28 1.39 1.34 1.27 1.35 Revenue ($bn) 5.29 5.59 6.51 6.78 7.30 7.48 8.13 9.19 9.35 9.11 8.93 9.25 9.63 9.95 10.65 10.48 10.14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMan89 Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 You guys are going to make fun of me, but tonight I saw MI5 and it was the first MI movie I have ever seen. Surprisingly I was not lost. They're very Bond in the sense of not requiring you see any previous installments to follow any particular one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frozen Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 They're very Bond in the sense of not requiring you see any previous installments to follow any particular one. Yeah I really liked it. I assumed I'd be lost, but it was easy to follow. I never gave any thought to this franchise before, but then so many people kept posting about it here that I decided I needed to see it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorschach Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Why? If you don't care to see the franchise, then don't see it. I never understood this line of thinking. It's selflish. If people are liking the movies, and the studios don't mind forking out more cash to make future movies, then so be it, it's not coming out of your pocket. Um, most of the money they threw at their shit movies came from us, the moviegoers. Where do you think they got their money from? A tree? And yeah, you are right. I shouldn't see the movie. Infact, I didn't even see the movie. Probably never will. Because why would I waste even a single dollar towards something that was half-assed and had no care or thought put into it? Something that AoU, F7, JW, AM, and MI5 did the opposite of. If I'm selfish for not liking bad movies, then I don't wanna know what I'd be if I was selfless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Yeah I really liked it. I assumed I'd be lost, but it was easy to follow. I never gave any thought to this franchise before, but then so many people kept posting about it here that I decided I needed to see it. I suggest you watch the others since you enjoyed the fifth one 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) Um, most of the money they threw at their shit movies came from us, the moviegoers. Where do you think they got their money from? A tree? And yeah, you are right. I shouldn't see the movie. Infact, I didn't even see the movie. Probably never will. Because why would I waste even a single dollar towards something that was half-assed and had no care or thought put into it? Something that AoU, F7, JW, AM, and MI5 did the opposite of. If I'm selfish for not liking bad movies, then I don't wanna know what I'd be if I was selfless. You can't really claim its a bad movie if you haven't seen it. Not defending the film by any means. Edited August 24, 2015 by Ethan Hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorschach Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 I suggest you watch the others since you enjoyed the fifth one Even though I thought the fifth one was okay, I'm still very interested in going back and watching the older films. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorschach Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 You can't really claim its a bad movie if you haven't seen it. Not defending the film by any means. I know. I'm just speaking in general about bad films. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan Hunt Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 (edited) Even though I thought the fifth one was okay, I'm still very interested in going back and watching the older films. Was Rogue Nation the first one you've seen? Edited August 24, 2015 by Ethan Hunt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rorschach Posted August 24, 2015 Share Posted August 24, 2015 Was Rogue Nation the first one you've seen? Is Donald Trump a douchebag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...