TomCruiseTop Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 1 hour ago, LaughingEvans said: It's excellent, but not nearly as good. Moore took Superman away from him being an icon and made him a character. Morrison almost did the opposite. Also, if we need to discuss why Morrison doesn't understand Moore's Superman, we only need to have a look at Morrison's JL. Preach brother. Preach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dxmatrixdt Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) DCEU is a mess and MCU is going into phase 4? any remakes of Iron Man or Batman on the horizon yet? - outside of anything cinematic universe it feels like movies are 'done'. like in 5-10 years, the #s are going to go down ALOT Edited October 10, 2018 by gravestonedt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hades Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, gravestonedt said: DCEU is a mess and MCU is going into phase 4? any remakes of Iron Man or Batman on the horizon yet? - outside of anything cinematic universe it feels like movies are 'done'. like in 5-10 years, the #s are going to go down ALOT You lie......Antman 4 is making a billion ...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dxmatrixdt Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, Hades said: You lie......Antman 4 is making a billion ...... I guess. history probably shows movie fatigue being relative to the brain that thinks it is Edited October 10, 2018 by gravestonedt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipDerby Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Tired: DC is a mess Wired: MCU is a mess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dxmatrixdt Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 DC was critic and audience-proof with Nolan's Batman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Lehnsherr Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 11 hours ago, gravestonedt said: DCEU is a mess and MCU is going into phase 4? any remakes of Iron Man or Batman on the horizon yet? - outside of anything cinematic universe it feels like movies are 'done'. like in 5-10 years, the #s are going to go down ALOT On the contrary MCU's solo films have only been increasing every Phase, The team up films (if they even do Avengers films post-Phase 3) won't do as well. And hard to imagine the DCEU doing worse than Justice League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dxmatrixdt Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, Darth Lehnsherr said: On the contrary MCU's solo films have only been increasing every Phase, The team up films (if they even do Avengers films post-Phase 3) won't do as well. And hard to imagine the DCEU doing worse than Justice League. it seems like it would just get too confusing after another 5-10 years. box office revenue going down IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeeSoh Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, Darth Lehnsherr said: On the contrary MCU's solo films have only been increasing every Phase, The team up films (if they even do Avengers films post-Phase 3) won't do as well. And hard to imagine the DCEU doing worse than Justice League. Would be incredibly stupid to not do movies that consistently generate 1.5-2.0 billion dollar at the BO (and millions more from home video and merchandise). We may not see another Avengers movie within 3 year after A4 like they normally come out. But once they have figured out the overarching narrative for the MCU post phase 3 (like the infinity stones narrative for the first 3 phases) then we will see more of these grand team up movies. Plus they are getting the X-men and F4 now. No way they dont do a team up movie where the Avengers meet the former 2 teams. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dxmatrixdt Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 In - Suicide Squad 2 - Aquaman - Wonder Women Out - Justice League - Batman - Superman I've been thinking Suicide Squad 2 will likely be the last big stand with DC characters. been thinking they will go 'all in' with whoever is left over before deciding further 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Lehnsherr Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 21 minutes ago, gravestonedt said: it seems like it would just get too confusing after another 5-10 years. box office revenue going down IMO Marvel has done a good job of getting new audiences to come aboard without confusing them or alienating the existing casual fans. I mean I wouldn't have imagined Infinity War getting the legs it did considering the amount of previous knowledge required but clearly that wasn't a problem. And yeah the return of FF4 and X-Men is going to help tremendously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dxmatrixdt Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Darth Lehnsherr said: Marvel has done a good job of getting new audiences to come aboard without confusing them or alienating the existing casual fans. I mean I wouldn't have imagined Infinity War getting the legs it did considering the amount of previous knowledge required but clearly that wasn't a problem. And yeah the return of FF4 and X-Men is going to help tremendously. but since it is a shared universe, it seems like no matter what you would be signing up for the middle of a TV show with each movie, but as a major film franchise. Edited October 10, 2018 by gravestonedt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dxmatrixdt Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 so which one won? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hades Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Marvel is smart to just give the solo characters 3 films.... its likely down hill after the 3rd or 4th film....I'm thinking BP 2 drops, obviously...MCU Spiderman starts dropping after the 3rd film.. Same with their Xmen , Strange, Guardians films Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Lehnsherr Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 I think Thor is worth another go with a 4th film since essentially Ragnarok was a soft reboot but yeah generally three solo films is good plus supporting roles in other films. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hades Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 9 minutes ago, Darth Lehnsherr said: I think Thor is worth another go with a 4th film since essentially Ragnarok was a soft reboot but yeah generally three solo films is good plus supporting roles in other films. Thor deserves another go but pricey contract negotiations for more solos might be an issue...There is a reason why we never got Iron man 4.....Thor will likely crash other characters films like how iron man is currently doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dxmatrixdt Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Lord of the Rings was sure a major influence in 2001-2003. It did have some strong female roles, but LOTR is a male-driven film??? i'm guessing if they remade the trilogy, King Theodin would not have such a rough role as he had? I wonder if some of the fans confirm whether or not these films are worthy by how 'meaty' they are, and they speak loudly on behalf of this to discourage other people from seeing it or wanting to think about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terrestrial Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 16 hours ago, ZeeSoh said: Would be incredibly stupid to not do movies that consistently generate 1.5-2.0 billion dollar at the BO (and millions more from home video and merchandise). We may not see another Avengers movie within 3 year after A4 like they normally come out. But once they have figured out the overarching narrative for the MCU post phase 3 (like the infinity stones narrative for the first 3 phases) then we will see more of these grand team up movies. Plus they are getting the X-men and F4 now. No way they dont do a team up movie where the Avengers meet the former 2 teams. I think they know their 'overarching narrative' for the next phase since a couple of / a few years at least. Is it possible they will already introduce X-Men... into Avengers 4 or another soon afterwards to be released film? Yes. But considering the time they spent between the idea/first screenplay outlay pitch (or however that is called, I forgot for th moment) for new characters getting an intro into the MCU - to till that film actually getting released seems to be around 6+ years in the past.... Let's asume they hoped for the X-Men addition since around 2 years and thought about how to maybe include them, I do think it is possible they will merge the worlds in let's say 4 to 6 years also. I'd make a big event movie like the Avenger movies are .... the at the end of the next phase or even later out of it. Maybe introduce them a bit like they did with GotG, with lots of hints, but no direct crossover/contact, mabe even a slighty alternate world in general design / details or whatever and then.... I do not disagree, I only think it will take far longer than some here seem to think (if no ueber-boss tries to fasten it for financial or other reasons) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dxmatrixdt Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 another day, movies running on tv, which franchise is winning in the minds of the masses? Spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Futurist Posted October 11, 2018 Share Posted October 11, 2018 Deadpool Venom are seriously damaging the Marvel brand, dumbing it down to seduce immature 12 yo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...