James Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 1 minute ago, cannastop said: 99% chance of not making half of Frozen in Japan. Zootopia should be the benchmark for Moana's Japan performance. I think it will make a bit more than Zootopia. It really was a brilliant move by Disney to move it out of the way of FB and RO. And by the time it opens, the great reception around the world will boost it even more. Japan doesn't have piracy issues anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cannastop Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 8 minutes ago, James said: I think it will make a bit more than Zootopia. It really was a brilliant move by Disney to move it out of the way of FB and RO. And by the time it opens, the great reception around the world will boost it even more. Japan doesn't have piracy issues anyway. Well, it's not brilliant as much as it is routine for Disney. March is also where The Good Dinosaur and Frozen went in Japan. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 44 minutes ago, Fullbuster said: Moana will be huge, in the US people already cry after seeing it because it's so moving You'll see, even the Chinese won't be able to resist Presales for Your Name are on par to Moana even coming 7 days later. Fantastic Beasts this week and Your Name next one are too much competition. I do not see big things for Moana in China... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 2 minutes ago, peludo said: Presales for Your Name are on par to Moana even coming 7 days later. Fantastic Beasts this week and Your Name next one are too much competition. I do not see big things for Moana in China... Presales aren't important, WOM is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 1 minute ago, Fullbuster said: Presales aren't important, WOM is Sure, but considering the success of Your Name in Japan... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Just now, peludo said: Sure, but considering the success of Your Name in Japan... Sure, but considering the success of Frozen in Japan... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 I've watched previews of Your Name and Moana, I think Chinese audience will prefer the former. Personally I give both movies 8.0/10. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 8 minutes ago, Fullbuster said: Sure, but considering the success of Frozen in Japan... But Moana is not Frozen. Your Name is Your Name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yjs Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 I have a slightly unrelated question for @Olive, I know China has some kind of a quota system or whatever for importing films, but had China ever had a ban on Japanese movies or animes? Korea, due to the colonial experience, placed a ban on Japanese movies and it only started to be lifted gradually in the late 90s'/early 00s', starting with the ones with the major international award winners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 5 minutes ago, peludo said: But Moana is not Frozen. Your Name is Your Name What I mean is that Frozen was even bigger than YN in Japan but it was far from being the same success in China. ^^ And you can't be sure Moana's WOM in China wouldn't undermine YN. BO is not so easy to predict, you should know it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Just now, yjs said: I have a slightly unrelated question for @Olive, I know China has some kind of a quota system or whatever for importing films, but had China ever had a ban on Japanese movies or animes? Korea, due to the colonial experience, placed a ban on Japanese movies and it only started to be lifted gradually in the late 90s'/early 00s', starting with the ones with the major international award winners. Yes, of course, we the relationship between the governments are not good, movies from Japan are difficult to pass the censorship. But this year we have released more than 10 Japanese movies, for comps, zero korean movie(Chinese government are not pleased about the THAAD deployment ). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Fullbuster said: What I mean is that Frozen was even bigger than YN in Japan but it was far from being the same success in China. ^^ And you can't be sure Moana's WOM in China wouldn't undermine YN. BO is not so easy to predict, you should know it now Of course, but given the limited schedules for each film in China, unless you get incredible WOM, the competition rules. There is nothing assured, but data tell me that Moana will have problems in China. Edited November 23, 2016 by peludo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yjs Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 14 minutes ago, Olive said: Yes, of course, we the relationship between the governments are not good, movies from Japan are difficult to pass the censorship. But this year we have released more than 10 Japanese movies, for comps, zero korean movie(Chinese government are not pleased about the THAAD deployment ). gotcha! shouldn't be talking about politics here but that was a rather dumb decision on us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CelestialFairyIX Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Moana: - $325 - 350 million domestically - $500 - 600 million OS WW: $825 - 950 million PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE GROSS OVER $1 BILLION! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Latin America is the big unknown here. Should do well in Asia though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Canada 23 November 2016 USA 23 November 2016 Azerbaijan 24 November 2016 Belarus 24 November 2016 Croatia 24 November 2016 Cambodia 24 November 2016 Kazakhstan 24 November 2016 Portugal 24 November 2016 Serbia 24 November 2016 Singapore 24 November 2016 Ukraine 24 November 2016 Bulgaria 25 November 2016 China 25 November 2016 Estonia 25 November 2016 Indonesia 25 November 2016 Lithuania 25 November 2016 Pakistan 25 November 2016 Poland 25 November 2016 Vietnam 25 November 2016 This is Moana's first territories this week. Only China is a big territory. Singapore and Indonesia could surprise though. Next week is interesting though : Belgium 30 November 2016 France 30 November 2016 Netherlands 30 November 2016 Philippines 30 November 2016 Hungary 1 December 2016 Malaysia 1 December 2016 Russia 1 December 2016 Slovakia 1 December 2016 Thailand 1 December 2016 Spain 2 December 2016 UK 2 December 2016 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purple Minion Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 Moana opens on 2 December in Mexico too. Only competition that week is Sully and the remnants of FB, it should have a clear slate until Rogue One opens 2 weeks after. Frozen's 7M audience is the benchmark. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted November 23, 2016 Share Posted November 23, 2016 20 minutes ago, Purple Minion said: Moana opens on 2 December in Mexico too. Only competition that week is Sully and the remnants of FB, it should have a clear slate until Rogue One opens 2 weeks after. Frozen's 7M audience is the benchmark. Apart from the terrible ER I think Moana will do well in Mexico Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newbie BO buff Posted November 24, 2016 Share Posted November 24, 2016 6 hours ago, CelestialFairyIX said: Moana: - $325 - 350 million domestically - $500 - 600 million OS WW: $825 - 950 million PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE GROSS OVER $1 BILLION! 325 mil DOM, 35:65 split, 929 mil worldwide It's a loooong wait to April 2017 to see the final numbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingdong123 Posted November 26, 2016 Share Posted November 26, 2016 On 24 November 2016 at 1:38 AM, CelestialFairyIX said: Moana: - $325 - 350 million domestically - $500 - 600 million OS WW: $825 - 950 million PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE GROSS OVER $1 BILLION! This prediction looks pretty sensible to me. But yeah hopefully it does more! Especially in North America. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...