MOANA | 394.6 M overseas ● 643.3 M worldwide

[Quigley]

The movies performance seems fine to me. Wait for the holidays to approach cuz there are big mulitpliers ahead.

[Captain H]

 

I think Moana's weak OS performance might have something to do with how it's not exactly appealing to a certain region.

 

Example:

Tangled obviously appeals more to Europe countries, as it's setting is very European and Rapunzel came from European fairy tale, hence it's strong Europe numbers but weak Asian number and average Latin numbers.

 

Big Hero 6 appeals more to Asian countries, obviously, with $160 milion from Japan+China alone, but is kind of weaker in Europe and Latin.

 

Frozen performed strongly in Europe, better than BH6 and Tangled in Latin, and went nuts in Japan and Korea. Is an outlier, not the rule.

 

Zootopia is strong across the board, because talking animals is universal language.

 

What can Moana appeal to culturally? I mean, Pacific islands probably count as untracked territories. We know that Moana sells out theatres in Hawaii, so that's good I guess. Maybe New Zealand and Australia will have good reactions to it. $400 million OS seemed like a good if not slightly optimistic target for Moana.

[Hoa Hoang]

Hi everyone, I has been lurking here for a very long time but rarely post as there is actually nothing I can contribute, coming from a rather insignificant country in terms of box office. But Moana opened here last weekend and I think I should share some thought as I see the panic mode is strong .

 

In our country people don't particularly like musicals, and marketing for Moana is not strong either (surprise hah, it's Disney ), thus opening weekend is quite weak. But Moana has insane WOM, with many people posting reactions on SNS and urging everybody to go see Moana as it's not simply a "cute, fun" movie, but a "beautiful, wonderful, must-see movie that can inspire and make them feel and cry." The WOM has kept it quite busy during the week for an animated movie, and for the second weekend I don't have official numbers but I believe Moana stayed flat or even increased. When I watched it for the 4th time yesterday the cinema was busier than last week, with many showings sold out. Moana also played particularly well with females here, and that leads to great leg. You know, when a movie can make us women feel and cry, we will drag other people with us to watch it multiple times, being a sentimental creature as we are . 

 

I am also disappointed with the opening in the UK, but I think we shouldn't panic yet. At least wait for its leg. Yesterday I checked for Moana posts on SNS in the UK and the reactions are just as great as in our country, so I am hopeful :). 

 

I believe WOM will carry Moana far enough to a respectable amount.

Edited December 5, 2016 by Hoa Hoang

[Mojoguy]

Awful UK opening for Moana with $2.7m, Frozen had $7.6m OW there.

Frozen was nearly three times as big.

Edited December 5, 2016 by Mojoguy

[Fullbuster]

8 hours ago, Captain H said:

 

I think Moana's weak OS performance might have something to do with how it's not exactly appealing to a certain region.

 

Example:

Tangled obviously appeals more to Europe countries, as it's setting is very European and Rapunzel came from European fairy tale, hence it's strong Europe numbers but weak Asian number and average Latin numbers.

 

Big Hero 6 appeals more to Asian countries, obviously, with $160 milion from Japan+China alone, but is kind of weaker in Europe and Latin.

 

Frozen performed strongly in Europe, better than BH6 and Tangled in Latin, and went nuts in Japan and Korea. Is an outlier, not the rule.

 

Zootopia is strong across the board, because talking animals is universal language.

 

What can Moana appeal to culturally? I mean, Pacific islands probably count as untracked territories. We know that Moana sells out theatres in Hawaii, so that's good I guess. Maybe New Zealand and Australia will have good reactions to it. $400 million OS seemed like a good if not slightly optimistic target for Moana.

 

While this explanation is convincing it is also sad, I'm European but for me a beautiful story is a beautiful story, no matter the cultural setting.

[Fullbuster]

Walt Disney Animation Studios’ latest effort posted its best new opening in France with a preview-boosted $6.4m, equal to Frozen, to chart first

 

France didn't disappoint :proud:

[peludo]

Spain: €1.8m (Frozen opened to €3.5m)

 

This week is nearly a holiday week in the whole country. Both Tuesday and Thursday are National holidays. We will see if it is able to recover. But for the moment it seems it will have to compete for Trolls numbers (about €10m) instead for Frozen's (€17m)

[newbie BO buff]

As of yesterday (4 December), Indonesia stands at 2.1 million, less than 800 thousand tickets sold.

Not looking too good, it had to share screens with FB when it opened. And Sing opens in 2 days (7 December).

[Dingdong123]

So this is flopping WW? Well damn.

[Olive]

If only this could make as much as those cheap movies such as SLOP or Minions.

[kayumanggi]

57.5 M overseas | 177.4 M worldwide

[SoSaysI]

2 hours ago, Olive said:

If only this could make as much as those cheap movies such as SLOP or Minions.

 

Especially since it is an infinitely better movie than anything Illumination has made. 

[CelestialFairyIX]

Hopefully it'll leg it's way to ABOVE Big Hero 6 at the worldwide box office.  Such sad performances all around overseas except for France, but that's ONE country.  Now it's up the Latin America and Japan.  I was hoping it would do Inside Out numbers. 

[Captain H]

13 hours ago, newbie BO buff said:

As of yesterday (4 December), Indonesia stands at 2.1 million, less than 800 thousand tickets sold.

Not looking too good, it had to share screens with FB when it opened. And Sing opens in 2 days (7 December).

Where did you get it? I'm looking high and low for Indonesian Box Office numbers but I nevet seemed to be able to find it... 

 

[Plain Old Tele]

On 12/4/2016 at 6:17 PM, Hoa Hoang said:

Hi everyone, I has been lurking here for a very long time but rarely post as there is actually nothing I can contribute, coming from a rather insignificant country in terms of box office. But Moana opened here last weekend and I think I should share some thought as I see the panic mode is strong .

 

In our country people don't particularly like musicals, and marketing for Moana is not strong either (surprise hah, it's Disney ), thus opening weekend is quite weak. But Moana has insane WOM, with many people posting reactions on SNS and urging everybody to go see Moana as it's not simply a "cute, fun" movie, but a "beautiful, wonderful, must-see movie that can inspire and make them feel and cry." The WOM has kept it quite busy during the week for an animated movie, and for the second weekend I don't have official numbers but I believe Moana stayed flat or even increased. When I watched it for the 4th time yesterday the cinema was busier than last week, with many showings sold out. Moana also played particularly well with females here, and that leads to great leg. You know, when a movie can make us women feel and cry, we will drag other people with us to watch it multiple times, being a sentimental creature as we are . 

 

I am also disappointed with the opening in the UK, but I think we shouldn't panic yet. At least wait for its leg. Yesterday I checked for Moana posts on SNS in the UK and the reactions are just as great as in our country, so I am hopeful :). 

 

I believe WOM will carry Moana far enough to a respectable amount.

 

A belated welcome! Very happy to see you posting, and thank you for a nice write up about the performance in your country.  

[DeeCee]

It doesn't open till Boxing Day here which is the biggest movie going day of the year and Rogue One will be 11 days into its run. Kids across the entire country will be on holidays for a minimum 4 weeks after release. 

[newbie BO buff]

6 hours ago, Captain H said:

Where did you get it? I'm looking high and low for Indonesian Box Office numbers but I nevet seemed to be able to find it... 

 

 

From the-numbers, they sometimes have it.

 

Box Office Summary Per Territory

Territory	Release Date	Opening Weekend	Opening Weekend Theaters	Maximum Theaters	Theatrical Engagements	Total Box Office	Report Date
Bulgaria	11/25/2016	$88,633	0	0	0	$88,633	12/1/2016
China	11/25/2016	$12,400,000	41597	41597	58324	$21,710,000	12/5/2016
Colombia	11/25/2016	$700,000	0	0	0	$700,000	11/28/2016
Czech Republic	11/25/2016	$96,266	117	117	117	$96,266	11/30/2016
France	12/1/2016	$5,200,000	0	0	0	$6,400,000	12/4/2016
Indonesia	11/25/2016	$700,000	0	0	0	$2,100,000	12/4/2016
Lithuania	11/25/2016	$64,787	193	193	193	$64,787	11/30/2016
Mexico	12/2/2016	$2,700,000	0	0	0	$2,700,000	12/4/2016
New Zealand	11/25/2016	$113,103	13	13	22	$245,888	12/5/2016
Portugal	11/25/2016	$250,939	127	127	127	$250,939	12/1/2016
Russia (CIS)	12/2/2016	$5,100,000	0	0	0	$5,100,000	12/4/2016
Singapore	11/25/2016	$600,000	0	0	0	$600,000	11/28/2016
Slovakia	11/25/2016	$11,674	23	23	23	$11,674	12/1/2016
Spain	12/1/2016	$2,000,000	0	0	0	$2,000,000	12/4/2016
United Kingdom	12/1/2016	$2,700,000	0	0	0	$2,700,000	12/4/2016
Rest of World						$12,731,813
International Total						$57,500,000	12/5/2016

[terrestrial]

On 5.12.2016 at 2:17 AM, Hoa Hoang said:

Hi everyone,....

and a great post IMHO.

 

 

general speaking:

I feel like a few do compare the OS details a bit too much to the US numbers.

 

So speaking as someone who does not even watch animated films...:

 

The film is not even released in all typically bigger markets, plus in countries were it is released partly special circumstances hinder the results like e.g. China it runs against a heavy hitter, in the UK (where it seemingly didn't have a marketing worth mentioning) against a local ~ 'institution',... sometimes a local film impresses so strongly, the other ones get missed. Happened e.g. in 2014 to GotG in South Korea

I'd wait till it is released everywhere for a few weeks before calling it whatever.

 

And please remember: sometimes it can be exchange rate, bad translation,... that impacts results, not always it is e.g. bias.

E.g. in Russia the same result as a few years back can mean today only 50% and so on 8depending on the dates).

 

23. Nov.
= Canada, USA

 

24. Nov
= Azerbaijan, Belarus, Croatia, Cambodia, Kazakhstan, Rep.o.Macedonia, Portugal, Serbia, Singapore, Ukraine

 

25. Nov.
= Bulgaria, China, Estonia, Indonesia, Lithuania, Pakistan, Poland, Vietnam

 

30. Nov
= Belgium, France, Netherlands, Philippines

 

1. Dec.
= Georgia, Hungary, Iceland, Malaysia, Russia, Slovakia, Thailand

 

2. Dec
= Spain, UK, Ireland, India, Mexico

 

8. Dec
= Israel, Lebanon

 

22. Dec
= Germany, Greece, Italy

 

26. Dec.
= Australia

 

5. Jan.
= Brazil

 

19. Jan
= Argentina, South Korea

 

20. Jan.
= Turkey

 

26 Jan.
= Hong Kong

 

2 Feb.
= Denmark

 

3. Feb.
= Norway, Sweden

 

10 March
= Japan

Edited December 7, 2016 by terrestrial

[newbie BO buff]

Moana's Indonesian numbers are not updated anymore, I think it not move far from 2.1 million as it loses screens to Sing since 2 days ago.

 

Underperformed or not? Compare to what I have on similar offerings this year:

• Dory 4.60 mil
• Zoo 2.82 mil
• TJB 1.96 mil
• Angry Birds 2.48 mil
• Pets 1.92 mil
• KFP3 5.32 mil
• Ice Age 5 0.73 mil
• Storks 0.55 k
• Trolls 0.34k

Some of the numbers are not conclusive, and Kubo did not screen here.

[Hoa Hoang]

Thank you all for your walm welcome :)! I have to say BOT is the only forum I visit these years, what a great place for movie lovers and moviegoers like me ^ ( I even love the regular meltdowns here ).

 

So the realistic ballpark for Moana is around 600 now, no? Well, less than I expected and hoped for it (still hope for 650 though), but anyway Disney will earn a nice figure from it and we have the fantastic movie we want, so I think I shouldn't have any complaint really :). But trust me Moana will do very well on Netflix later haha.

Edited December 9, 2016 by Hoa Hoang