Avatree Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 second time I saw the movie, the audience was hysterical throughout every scene in which Kylo Ren had no mask. The moment when he first takes the mask off, I've never heard a louder, more creepily hysterical reaction from an audience before; bigger laugh than in any comedy film I've seen. Suuuuuper weird. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJohn Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 1 minute ago, Salacious Tree Crumb said: second time I saw the movie, the audience was hysterical throughout every scene in which Kylo Ren had no mask. The moment when he first takes the mask off, I've never heard a louder, more creepily hysterical reaction from an audience before; bigger laugh than in any comedy film I've seen. Suuuuuper weird. That is just fucking weird. Nobody laughed in any of my shows. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyingcow29 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 A few laughed on my Thursday showing, found it weird. Despite all the critical observations. Still nothing about the movie I don't like. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kvikk Lunsj Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 7 minutes ago, CJ Ren said: That is just fucking weird. Nobody laughed in any of my shows. Nobody laughed during my three showings. Kylo is easily better villain than Maul, Dooku, Bobba Fett, and Genral Grevious. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jiriki Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Re: Kylo Looking weak in the fight at the end. They spent like 3 different scenes setting up how powerful Chewie's bowcaster was, they showed the blood in the snow twice, and he kept hitting the injury. Not sure what else they needed to do to stress it being a major hampering injury. Its also pretty clear his emotions are all over the place after killing Han and not suddenly becoming more powerful. A pretty good job is done of setting up how emotionally unstable he is, and controlling the force is all about harnessing your emotion. vs. Finn I thought it was pretty clear we was just toying with him until Finn managed to score a hit, at which point he quickly ended it. Also confirm this is the case from a friend who read the novelization that makes the toying with him aspect explicit. vs. Rey He is trying to turn/recruit her at the start (also confirmed from the novel), and then she goes all Neo on him after allowing the force to flow. She clearly has fighting skills prior to this, also it seems like she was at the new jedi academy when the slaughter took place. So even if she isn't Luke's daughter she still may have had some training that was lost to her like those early memories either due to a mental barrier from the force or some sort of self inflicted forgetting in response to the traumatic event. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJohn Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Just now, Darth Dexter of Hoth said: Nobody laughed during my three showings. Kylo is easily better villain than Maul, Dooku, Bobba Fett, and Genral Grevious. Maul, Phasma, Bobba Fett and Grevious are all the same shit. Cool looking villains that are shit useless characters that do nothing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 1 minute ago, CJ Ren said: Maul, Phasma, Bobba Fett and Grevious are all the same shit. Cool looking villains that are shit useless characters that do nothing. But they're so intimidating, CJohn We need more one-dimensional, intimidating villains Tired of these newfangled villains who are layered opposites to our heroes rather than video game obstacles 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJohn Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 1 minute ago, Chewy said: But they're so intimidating, CJohn We need more one-dimensional, intimidating villains Tired of these newfangled villains who are layered opposites to our heroes rather than video game obstacles ........................ They are gonna do Darth Maul, Captain Phasma and Grevious origins movies, besides the Bobba Fett one, aren't they? Fucking Star Wars mega fanboys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 The Boba Fett movie should co-star Darth Maul. They can both stand around saying and doing nothing, it'll be rad 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagemode87 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Chewy said: But they're so intimidating, CJohn We need more one-dimensional, intimidating villains Tired of these newfangled villains who are layered opposites to our heroes rather than video game obstacles No one is saying he should've been one dimensional. We're just saying he didn't have to show his face during the middle of the movie. Not to mention his unmasking was so casual, I actually cringed. He looks goofy and weak. Couldn't take him seriously when he put the mask back on and continued with the amped voice. Not to mention he lost badly to a protagonist that just swung a lightsaber for the 1st time. Don't see how anyone can defend this. Edited December 22, 2015 by Sagemode87 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harpospoke Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 52 minutes ago, Dark 33Legend of the Sith said: Two of my favorite parts of the movies: The fact the Kylo was a damaged, conflicted, imperfect villain. To try follow up what in many people's opinion is the greatest villain of all time (Vader) with a clone you will fail. His development was and is going to be riveting. Agreed. I've seen Vader, kinda nice to have a different kind of villain. 20 minutes ago, Salacious Tree Crumb said: second time I saw the movie, the audience was hysterical throughout every scene in which Kylo Ren had no mask. The moment when he first takes the mask off, I've never heard a louder, more creepily hysterical reaction from an audience before; bigger laugh than in any comedy film I've seen. Suuuuuper weird. In both my showings, half the audience jumped up, did a back flip, removed all their clothes, and threw popcorn at each other while drooling when C3PO showed up. I thought that was kinda weird. Must be the red arm. 9 minutes ago, Jiriki said: Re: Kylo Looking weak in the fight at the end. They spent like 3 different scenes setting up how powerful Chewie's bowcaster was, they showed the blood in the snow twice, and he kept hitting the injury. Not sure what else they needed to do to stress it being a major hampering injury. Its also pretty clear his emotions are all over the place after killing Han and not suddenly becoming more powerful. A pretty good job is done of setting up how emotionally unstable he is, and controlling the force is all about harnessing your emotion. vs. Finn I thought it was pretty clear we was just toying with him until Finn managed to score a hit, at which point he quickly ended it. Also confirm this is the case from a friend who read the novelization that makes the toying with him aspect explicit. vs. Rey He is trying to turn/recruit her at the start (also confirmed from the novel), and then she goes all Neo on him after allowing the force to flow. She clearly has fighting skills prior to this, also it seems like she was at the new jedi academy when the slaughter took place. So even if she isn't Luke's daughter she still may have had some training that was lost to her like those early memories either due to a mental barrier from the force or some sort of self inflicted forgetting in response to the traumatic event. Well said. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJohn Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 2 minutes ago, Chewy said: The Boba Fett movie should co-star Darth Maul. They can both stand around saying and doing nothing, it'll be rad One-Dimensional Star Wars Villains Universe. Make it happen Disney. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Just now, Sagemode87 said: No one is saying he should've been one dimensional. We're just saying he didn't have to show his face during the middle of the movie. Not to mention his unmasking was so casual, I actually cringed. He looks goofy and weak. Couldn't take him seriously when he put the mask back on and continued with the amped voice. He is goofy and weak, that's yknow why he succumbed to the dark side. He wants people to think of him as this cool shadowy badass but really he's a broken, sad mess. Sad broken humans have orchestrated most of the worst atrocities in human history, btw. Pain is both interesting and terrifying 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeCee Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 We won't need one of these threads for BvS. The trailers seem to have covered everything. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4815162342 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 29 minutes ago, CJ Ren said: ........................ They are gonna do Darth Maul, Captain Phasma and Grevious origins movies, besides the Bobba Fett one, aren't they? Fucking Star Wars mega fanboys They already did the Darth Maul origin in the Clone Wars show after they resurrected him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJohn Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 1 minute ago, Dr 3va2an said: They already did the Darth Maul origin in the Clone Wars show after they resurrected him. Nobody saw that show. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoxOfficeZ Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 I was asked in a thousand PMs if Snoke is Darth Plagueis, but the film doesn't even make this clear who Snoke is anyway. I assumed he was some sort of Chief Sith type dude. We'll see more of him in Episode 8 and 9 for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
junkshop36 Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 1 hour ago, Sagemode87 said: If he's not meant to be Vader, then he should lose the mask. I cringed when he put the mask back on and talked with the amped voice after seeing what was under there. It just didn't work anymore. Dude, seriously, you're not getting it. HE WANTS TO BE VADER!!!!! That's why he wears the damn mask. He's trying to really hard to be something that we as the audience can see that he's probably never going to be. But he doesn't know that. He thinks he's going to be just like Vader and take up the mantle of wiping out the Jedi and controlling the Galaxy. Obviously, I'm not going to change your mind, so we'll just going to have to agree to disagree. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 Before he fell to the Dark Side Kylo ran the Star Wars Universe's version of GamerGate 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeCee Posted December 22, 2015 Share Posted December 22, 2015 3 minutes ago, BoxOfficeZ said: I was asked in a thousand PMs if Snoke is Darth Plagueis, but the film doesn't even make this clear who Snoke is anyway. I assumed he was some sort of Chief Sith type dude. We'll see more of him in Episode 8 and 9 for sure. And people elsewhere were convinced you hadn't seen it because you couldn't answer that question. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
