MovieMan89 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Just now, redfirebird2008 said: Need the weather to clear up. Even though the snow is supposed to stop overnight, temperatures in the low 20's mean frozen roads tomorrow. My company is keeping the office closed tomorrow. Good point. May be more like the Tuesday-Wednesday holds that reap the rewards, or even next weekend if the roads stay frozen most of the week. For that reason, sorry @GiantCALBears but no dice on the bet. I don't control the weather and have no idea if it will be much better by tomorrow. It will make up this money at some point over the next week though, so when you see an insane hold you'll know why. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiantCALBears Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 9 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said: If it drops below 45m today, I'd be willing to bet a -18-20% hold is coming Monday. So how much cash are you putting behind this? I'd like the other side please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 It's an odd feeling being in the Midwest and not being part of some big weather event. Just a little rain here 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilmBuff Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 8 hours ago, Mango said: TDK sold more tickets than every movie that has released since it did except for Avatar and soon to be TFA. This is flat out wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spizzer Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 1 minute ago, FilmBuff said: This is flat out wrong. No its not. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiantCALBears Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 1 minute ago, MovieMan89 said: Good point. May be more like the Tuesday-Wednesday holds that reap the rewards, or even next weekend if the roads stay frozen most of the week. For that reason, sorry @GiantCALBears but no dice on the bet. I don't control the weather and have no idea if it will be much better by tomorrow. It will make up this money at some point over the next week though, so when you see an insane hold you'll know why. Lol you say you will bet on it then immediately back out. Nice conviction there, maybe B/Tele will take me up on it since they are men of their word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMan89 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Just now, GiantCALBears said: Lol you say you will bet on it then immediately back out. Nice conviction there, maybe B/Tele will take me up on it since they are men of their word. Ooh, I hope you don't double dog dare me, then I'll really have to do it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greylemur Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 3 minutes ago, tribefan695 said: It's an odd feeling being in the Midwest and not being part of some big weather event. Just a little rain here So where are you? Indiana? Southern Illinois? They seem to be avoiding the worst of Goliath (hey, I'm not kidding. This is officially Winter Storm Goliath.) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrPink Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 5 minutes ago, FilmBuff said: This is flat out wrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark 33Legend of the Sith Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 1 minute ago, GiantCALBears said: Lol you say you will bet on it then immediately back out. Nice conviction there, maybe B/Tele will take me up on it since they are men of their word. LOL. Just because you believe something is going to happen, doesn't mean you have to bet on it. So if I think TFA will make 25 million on Monday but I won't bet on it I'm not a man of my word? Just trying to ignite things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Northeast Ohio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vc2002 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 5 minutes ago, tribefan695 said: It's an odd feeling being in the Midwest and not being part of some big weather event. Just a little rain here Well at least you're part of a big movie event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiantCALBears Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Just now, MovieMan89 said: Ooh, I hope you don't double dog dare me, then I'll really have to do it! You initiated the idea, then you backed out on your own bet literally on the same page. No way I would've gotten paid anyways so it is what it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMan89 Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Just now, GiantCALBears said: You initiated the idea, then you backed out on your own bet literally on the same page. No way I would've gotten paid anyways so it is what it is. You are correct sir, since I sure as hell wouldn't have bet money with you. Or if I did it would be to donate to the forum like what B/Tele did. What would be the rules of our bet anyways @GiantCALBears? I'm not making a bet where it has to drop exactly between 18-20% or you win. That's way too easy for you. You need to come up with your own prediction range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiantCALBears Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 3 minutes ago, Dark 33Legend of the Sith said: LOL. Just because you believe something is going to happen, doesn't mean you have to bet on it. So if I think TFA will make 25 million on Monday but I won't bet on it I'm not a man of my word? Just trying to ignite things. Please be quiet. 23 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said: If it drops below 45m today, I'd be willing to bet a -18-20% hold is coming Monday. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blankments Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 3 hours ago, JonathanLB said: I think some of the discussion of inflation adjusted figures is NOT to tarnish the incredible TFA run, but to appreciate it even more. Surely if it becomes the 10th biggest movie ever adjusted for inflation, that's absolutely incredible. That makes it one of the few most successful films of all time by any measure. I do think you have to take into consideration eras, though, because I don't like the smug, "Well, if you adjust for inflation, GWTW sold more tickets than any other movie ever." Sure, ok. That's nice. Would it have sold those tickets today? Let's just be a bit honest here, GWTW wouldn't break $100M in the U.S. if it came out today. It would play art house theaters and probably do great with critics, again, and win some Oscars. VERY few people would go see the movie. So adjusting for inflation to get ticket sales numbers is a nice exercise and tells you a bit about the impact of a film, but you can't make TOO much of it. It's a lot like the whole, "Well, the 1995 Bulls would beat the 2014 Golden State Warriors," or whatever. It's nerdy for the reason it cannot ever be truly decided who would win. But I can tell you, adjust for inflation all you want, we all know if you opened TFA against Gone With the Wind (if it were a new movie nobody had seen before), Star Wars would blow that out of the water. That's why I'm not comfortable with people bringing up 1939 movies in modern day discussions. It's completely irrelevant. The landscape has changed and whatever GWTW did is a historical curiosity and nothing more. If someone states it as such, that's a valid and interesting statistic. But if they act like, "Well, TFA really wasn't that big, because GWTW," then it's absolutely silly as Star Wars is a much bigger part of the culture than GWTW has been for at least 50 years. They should invent a CGI fight generator between movies. Like Rocky vs the dude in Rocky Balboa 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark 33Legend of the Sith Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 5 minutes ago, GiantCALBears said: Please be quiet. Sorry, missed that lol. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GiantCALBears Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 1 minute ago, MovieMan89 said: You are correct sir, since I sure as hell wouldn't have bet money with you. Or if I did it would be to donate to the forum like what B/Tele did. What would be the rules of our bet anyways @GiantCALBears? I'm not making a bet where it has to drop exactly between 18-20% or you win. That's way too easy for you. You need to come up with your own prediction range. I'm a man of my word, Baumer can verify. If it grosses less than $45m today... & it drops more than 20% tomorrow I win, if it's less than 20% you win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeepCSC Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 On that note, place Force Awakens in 1939, and Gone with the Wind outdoes it across-the-board. The audience simply wasn't there then. Tickets sold, even rough estimates, seem the best way to discuss this. How many tickets could the sell at market price when it was released? There are of course other considerations, but that seems to get to the heart of the matter. How popular was the film in its own era compared to other films in other eras. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LinksterAC Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 The weather is having some kind of impact, to be sure. Somehow I doubt it's enough to account for a $5M difference. Maybe half that? I don't know. The weekday holds will tell us something. If they're suddenly Avatar level, we'll know something was really up with the weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
