8M TFA Rth Monday number!!! SW7 has surpassed TA1 & F7 for 4th alltime WW!!!

[Accursed Arachnid!™]

15 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

After the PGA snub I doubt TFA gets in. PGA is pretty populist and they even nominated Star Trek.

 

I think it's a pretty slow year(not many of the BP candidates are over 90% at RT) and TFA has history on its side(Fantasy sequels have been nominated before and the original SW was nominated). And the last two DOM BO record breakers got noms. I think it should get a nod, if only for recognition of its accomplishments.

 

After all, Hollywood is still about making money.

[spazz91]

33 minutes ago, RamblinRed said:

As of Monday TFA has effectively a $131.3M cushion compared to Avatar gross to make $1B.

To put that in perspective. There are 87 days between now and March 31. If TFA was to make $1.5M below Avatar's daily gross all 87 days, it would hit $1B on 3/31.

 

FWIW, there are 27 days out of those 87 where Avatar didn't even make $1.5M for its daily gross. So there are 27 days during that period where it is physically impossible for TFA to make $1.5M less than Avatar. 

 

 

 

I'm kind of scared how do-able this sounds...

[DAR]

12 minutes ago, langer said:

 

Spoiler

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Ignore this

[DAR]

8 minutes ago, DarthArachnid!™ said:

 

I think it's a pretty slow year(not many of the BP candidates are over 90% at RT) and TFA has history on its side(Fantasy sequels have been nominated before and the original SW was nominated). And the last two DOM BO record breakers got noms. I think it should get a nod, if only for recognition of its accomplishments.

 

After all, Hollywood is still about making money.

Plus they may want to look at their ratings.

[Daxtreme]

50 minutes ago, Punishment said:

 

With that Monday drop TFA would end above $1b using all three of the LOTR movies daily increases/decreases now.

 

FOTR legs = $1.1b

TTT legs = $1.01b

ROTK legs = $1.03b

 

and

 

Hobbit3 legs = $897m for shall we say, those with "lack of faith"

 

$1B dream alive again!

 

I can see this movie having lord of the rings legs! For starters, because it has had better legs than LOTR so far.

Edited January 5, 2016 by Daxtreme

[NCsoft]

6 minutes ago, DAR said:

Plus they may want to look at their ratings.

They can rely on The Martian, Inside Out, Straight outta Compton, and MMFR, even ignoring TFA their potential list is still more audience friendly than most other years.

Plus there's also the Leo getting his first Oscar narrative, and then Sylvester Stallone's come back thing, I don't think they're too worried about ratings this year.

Edited January 5, 2016 by NCsoft

[Accursed Arachnid!™]

I don't care about how much TFA makes as long as it gets past TPM adjusted. And that should happen shortly.

[Daxtreme]

Inflation-Adjusted Top 10 Movies Released Since 1977

Note: This chart is adjusted for inflation. The figures represent the total amount of money a movie has taken in domestically over its lifetime taking into account the cost of tickets.

	Released	Film Name	Total Box Office
1	1977	Star Wars Ep. IV: A New Hope	$1,362,751,062
2	1997	Titanic	$1,139,182,838
3	1982	ET: The Extra-Terrestrial	$1,124,651,941
4	2009	Avatar	$826,198,130
5	1980	Star Wars Ep. V: The Empire Strikes Back	$808,182,542
6	1983	Star Wars Ep. VI: Return of the Jedi	$778,214,979
7	1994	The Lion King	$756,219,975
8	1999	Star Wars Ep. I: The Phantom Menace	$755,899,504
9	1993	Jurassic Park	$755,387,687
10	2015	Star Wars Ep. VII: The Force Awakens	$742,208,942

 

the-numbers' chart makes much more sense than boxofficemojo's. Movies released before 1977 came from an era when box office wasn't reported faithfully enough, and as such, can't be compared.

[terrestrial]

5 minutes ago, DarthArachnid!™ said:

I don't care about how much TFA makes as long as it gets past TPM adjusted. And that should happen shortly.

 

DOMESTIC GROSSES - Adjusted for Ticket Price Inflation

17	Star Wars I - The Phantom Menace	Fox	$777,587,000	$474,544,677	1999^
18	The Lion King	BV	$767,550,700	$422,783,777	1994^
19	The Sting	Uni.	$767,520,000	$156,000,000	1973
20	Raiders of the Lost Ark	Par.	$762,215,600	$248,159,971	1981^
21	Star Wars: The Force Awakens	BV	$750,230,800	$750,230,824	2015

[terrestrial]

no matter The-Numbers or BOM, it will surpass it this week

[Daxtreme]

What they could do with old movies is approximate it.

 

For example, instead of stating that The Sound of Music made $1,226,196,400, simple state "$1,200 Billion (Estimated)"

 

And write somewhere that grosses from movies preceding 1977 should not be taken as absolute numbers, but rather as a mean to see the order of magnitude that these movies had in terms of popularity.

Edited January 5, 2016 by Daxtreme
typo

[HurriKaty]

This movie is so fun to watch.  It sure as heck brought me out of the woodwork.  This next week is gonna be very telling. I still think we're in for a 50 million weekend.  But I've been wrong before.  And by before I mean most of the time.

[Caladbolg]

Using BOM 2015 average ticket price it has passed The Phantom Menace  adjusted, with the 3d release added in. I think it's too soon to be using their 2016 avg price.

[Lizzy]

41 minutes ago, terrestrial said:

 

Deadline Hollywood ‏@Deadline

‘Legion’: @FXNetworks' @Marvel pilot casts ‘Fargo’s Rachel Keller as female lead http://ow.ly/WFIz2 

????

 

 

 

 

X-Men TV show I'm guessing. 

[Dementeleus]

42 minutes ago, DarthArachnid!™ said:

 

I think it's a pretty slow year(not many of the BP candidates are over 90% at RT) and TFA has history on its side(Fantasy sequels have been nominated before and the original SW was nominated). And the last two DOM BO record breakers got noms. I think it should get a nod, if only for recognition of its accomplishments.

 

After all, Hollywood is still about making money.

 

If we look at A NEW HOPE, TITANIC, and AVATAR, though, all three were original movies. That carries a lot of weight, I think... perhaps enough that FORCE won't get the nom.

[Ozymandias]

A NEW HOPE got the nom because it was the biggest smash hit of all time and there was nothing like it before.  Titanic got it because it was a smash hit and based on a famous historical event.  Abadar got it because of the money and...?  TFA should get it for being the highest grossing movie and for resurrecting Star Wars and restoring it from the ashes of Jorge Lucas's clutches.

Edited January 5, 2016 by Ozymandias

[ForcedForward]

Basically TFA has already passed Avatar if you don't count re releases.  I think the records should not count re releases, that's always bothered me, should be a separate record.

[Dementeleus]

4 minutes ago, Ozymandias said:

 Abadar got it because of the money and...?

 

Popularized a new system for theatrical exhibition that jumpstarted revenues for blockbusters - 3D.

 

I don't think FORCE has any special factors to help it get a nom. It's a movie that made a ton of money, and a lot of people like it. That might be enough to get in... but maybe not.

[George Parr]

4 minutes ago, ForcedForward said:

Basically TFA has already passed Avatar if you don't count re releases.  I think the records should not count re releases, that's always bothered me, should be a separate record.

 

I disagree, a movie still has to garner interest to make money out of a re-release, simply releasing it again and again does absolutely nothing on its own. If you can actually get the theaters to show your movie again, and people show up, all the better for you. It's the same movie, and records are about the money a movie has made in theaters, as such, everything should count.

[spizzer]

40 minutes ago, DarthArachnid!™ said:

I don't care about how much TFA makes as long as it gets past TPM adjusted. And that should happen shortly.

 

 

32 minutes ago, terrestrial said:

 

DOMESTIC GROSSES - Adjusted for Ticket Price Inflation

17	Star Wars I - The Phantom Menace	Fox	$777,587,000	$474,544,677	1999^
18	The Lion King	BV	$767,550,700	$422,783,777	1994^
19	The Sting	Uni.	$767,520,000	$156,000,000	1973
20	Raiders of the Lost Ark	Par.	$762,215,600	$248,159,971	1981^
21	Star Wars: The Force Awakens	BV	$750,230,800	$750,230,824	2015

 

This is an arbitrary adjustment though, its simply applying the average ticket current ticket price to TPM's admissions, which is the wrong way to go about it.   It's not assuming a 1:1 ratio for format breakdown.  TPM adjusted for inflation of 2D prices only would be considerably lower, right around 690-700M.  BOM's adjusted number is not doing this, instead it is adjusting based on the full-year average 2D/3D/IMAX shares in 2015 (or 2016 thus far), which is probably around ~10%.  What do we care what TPM would have done with 10% 3D?

 

What we're looking for is TFA passing TPM's 1st run attendance (85-86M tickets), which will be done in the mid-to-high 800M range.  Add in roughly 4M more tickets from the re-release and it needs 890-920M to pass TPM's total attendance, which it will end up doing.