baumer Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 My guess is this will be something like what RTH will give us tomorrow: SS Wednesday: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Panda Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 12 minutes ago, Baumer loves Dory said: FF increased that much on Tuesday because it sucked and everyone wanted to pay less to see it on Tuesday. You're running out of excuses here aren't you? And how nice of you to site FF and not GOTG. Not necessarily agreeing with Gopher completely, but I find that to be odd logic. I've never noticed a correlation between a movie sucking and it having better Tuesday increases than one that didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova Posted August 10, 2016 Author Share Posted August 10, 2016 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Baumer loves Dory said: I get that. But there's obviously other reasons why FF went up so much. One of them is that people were willing to pay less money to see it knowing it was going to suck, hence the 41% drop the next day and another is that it opened to about a third of what SS did. Exactly. FF went up so much because people weren't going to pay full price to see that turd. I think folks get so caught up on percentages and stuff without looking at the bigger picture. A film that opens bigger will have bigger drops because theres only so much money a film can make. Also a film that opens very little should have smaller drops but also have bigger increases. A film thats god awful will see increases on days when tickets are discounted, imo. Edited August 10, 2016 by Nova 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 1 minute ago, The Panda said: Not necessarily agreeing with Gopher completely, but I find that to be odd logic. I've never noticed a correlation between a movie sucking and it having better Tuesday increases than one that didn't. That's because no movie ever sucked as bad as FF. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 17 minutes ago, Baumer loves Dory said: You're running out of excuses here aren't you? I just have faith in our country I guess. Maybe I'm just an optimist (I also genuinely believe there's not enough proof yet, BvS had perfectly good Monday/Tuesday holds) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Yea, but you are not usually fueled by your feelings towards a film. I think you call it as you see it. I think if the WOM was as horrible as you think the film is then the drops would be significantly higher than what they have been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Baumer loves Dory said: Yea, but you are not usually fueled by your feelings towards a film. I think you call it as you see it. I think if the WOM was as horrible as you think the film is then the drops would be significantly higher than what they have been. We're all fueled by feelings. I seem to recall a particular swear word you repeated regarding a very successful fish related comedy this summer. But sure, let's talk no-filter BO predicting. It hasn't had a bad hold since Saturday. BvS did the same thing. I currently have the weekend at 43m (-68%), with a -31% decrease today, -10% Thurs and 50% bump Friday. There's room for improvement with those projections, but its IM was so frontloaded it could follow Guardians' dailies for the rest of the week and still drop -65%. If it pulls that off I can see it crossing 300, my projection has it barely getting to MOS numbers domestic. I guess its third week is going to be more interesting. Everything drops a lot second weekend now, but BvS against no competition fell -55% its third weekend and then -61% against Jungle Book. MOS 'only' dropped -50%. Guardians did -40%, but that was a movie people actually liked. Suicide Squad loses IMAX but it's not like Ben Hur is gonna blow its tires out, it would have to collapse on its own. Edited August 10, 2016 by Gopher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Panda Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 18 minutes ago, Baumer loves Dory said: That's because no movie ever sucked as bad as FF. Still, I think the argument you made that FF opened less is the much better one to make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmlover Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 It'll also be interesting seeing how the third weekend holds since WB's is completely shifting their attention to War Dogs right now (it's getting an insane ad push on TV). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecstasy Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Good increase. This movie is performing just fine. Nothing extreme either way. $300m is in sight. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmandeep Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 2 hours ago, Baumer loves Dory said: Are u speaking with your brain or your black heart? No it could get 44.9 million lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superweirdo87 Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 (edited) Third Weekend Drops for Recent CBMs: Deadpool 44.9 GOTG 40.4 BvS 54.5 CA:CW 54.7 XMA 56.6 MoS 49.8 AoU 50 CA:WS 38 XM:DOFP 53.4 Ant-Man 48.6 FF 54.3 TASM2 52.7 Thor: The Dark World 61.2 IM3 50.7 Edited August 10, 2016 by superweirdo87 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecstasy Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 1 hour ago, The Panda said: In all actuality, Civil War was a Marvel movie with many of its popular characters in it, and they chose to give it a Captain America title for logistical purposes. It is not one singular thing. It's a Captain America sequel. It's an Age of Ultron sequel. It's a Spider-Man reboot. It sets some background as a Black Panther prequel. It is an Iron Man v Captain America movie. It is all of those things, and it's silly to argue that it's only one of them. It was a Captain America sequel. They only threw Iron Man in there to compete with WB who threw Batman in the Superman movie. If you recall, Batman vs. Superman and Cap 3 were scheduled to open on the same date. It was less about IM vs. CAP imo, and more about Cap and Bucky's love story with Cap saving Bucky (yet again). The theme of all 3 Cap movies. Adding in all those extra characters was a response to WB in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohana Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Any international numbers for SS? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRA Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 35 minutes ago, Baumer loves Dory said: Yea, but you are not usually fueled by your feelings towards a film. I think you call it as you see it. I think if the WOM was as horrible as you think the film is then the drops would be significantly higher than what they have been. This exactly is why I'm waiting for stateside and foreign totals to peter out before declaring victory or death. I mean hell SS dropped 41% Friday to Saturday? AOU dropped 33%. Yet one of those 2 still finished over 400 million stateside and a billion Plus global. Worry not about 2nd weekend or week drops or whatever and worry more about the final totals. That WB insider told THR that it needs 750-800 million in theaters to break even. But WB will call it a win if it comes "close" so....700 million? (*shrug*) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAR Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 44 minutes ago, Baumer loves Dory said: That's because no movie ever sucked as bad as FF. So it's passed the Artist and Citizen Kane. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecstasy Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 45 minutes ago, Gopher said: I just have faith in our country I guess. Maybe I'm just an optimist (I also genuinely believe there's not enough proof yet, BvS had perfectly good Monday/Tuesday holds) BvS was supported by Easter week and Spring Break. So a little different scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRA Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 Just now, ecstasy said: BvS was supported by Easter week and Spring Break. So a little different scenario. Must. Avoid. Obvious. Jesus. Joke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RRA Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 6 minutes ago, DAR said: So it's passed the Artist and Citizen Kane. Everybody knows neither have a thing on THE TOXIC AVENGER. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmandeep Posted August 10, 2016 Share Posted August 10, 2016 The good news is the RT score for SS is nowhere near a big deal as for Batman vs Superman But I think the sequels will have harsh drops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...