The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[Tinalera]

I really appreciate the comp work that gets done. I dont have the math mind to figure out those computations! I can tell its afair bit of work it is appreciated. Even more so now im starting to figure out how to interpret said numbers😁

[FlashMaster659]

22 hours ago, FlashMaster659 said:

 

The Lion King – AMC Ontario Mills 30 (Thursday Night)

 

Fan Event

 

5:00 PM - 139/167

 

Dolby Cinema

 

6:00 PM - 158/203

9:00 PM - 156/203

12:00 AM - 56/203

 

3D Dine-In

 

6:00 PM - 22/78

6:30 PM - 12/63

7:00 PM - 13/78

8:45 PM - 14/60

9:15 PM - 2/78

9:45 PM - 4/63

10:15 PM - 4/78

 

RealD 3D

 

6:15 PM - 4/55

6:45 PM - 0/44

7:30 PM - 2/167

8:00 PM - 4/114

8:30 PM - 0/114

9:00 PM - 2/79

9:30 PM - 0/55

10:00 PM - 0/44

10:30 PM - 3/167

11:15 PM - 0/114

11:45 PM - 0/114

 

2D Dine-In

 

7:30 PM - 33/63

8:00 PM - 37/61

8:30 PM - 40/63

10:45 PM - 20/63

11:15 PM - 26/61

11:45 PM - 4/63

 

2D

 

6:00 PM - 20/44

6:15 PM - 13/55

6:30 PM - 42/217

6:45 PM - 0/48

7:00 PM - 22/79

7:15 PM - 12/44

7:45 PM - 13/44

8:00 PM - 18/45

8:15 PM - 19/167

8:30 PM - 9/45

8:45 PM - 2/44

9:00 PM - 9/49

9:15 PM - 0/44

9:30 PM - 2/55

9:45 PM - 3/217

10:00 PM - 0/48

10:15 PM - 2/79

10:30 PM - 0/44

11:00 PM - 0/44

11:15 PM - 0/45

11:30 PM - 3/167

11:45 PM - 0/45

 

Total

 

944(+25)/4384 (21.5%)

 

The Lion King – AMC Ontario Mills 30 (Thursday Night)

 

Fan Event

 

5:00 PM - 139/167

 

Dolby Cinema

 

6:00 PM - 162/203

9:00 PM - 157/203

12:00 AM - 57/203

 

3D Dine-In

 

6:00 PM - 23/78

6:30 PM - 12/63

7:00 PM - 15/78

8:45 PM - 15/60

9:15 PM - 4/78

9:45 PM - 4/63

10:15 PM - 4/78

 

RealD 3D

 

6:15 PM - 4/55

6:45 PM - 0/44

7:30 PM - 2/167

8:00 PM - 4/114

8:30 PM - 0/114

9:00 PM - 2/79

9:30 PM - 0/55

10:00 PM - 0/44

10:30 PM - 3/167

11:15 PM - 0/114

11:45 PM - 0/114

 

2D Dine-In

 

7:30 PM - 35/63

8:00 PM - 37/61

8:30 PM - 40/63

10:45 PM - 20/63

11:15 PM - 26/61

11:45 PM - 6/63

 

2D

 

6:00 PM - 20/44

6:15 PM - 13/55

6:30 PM - 49/217

6:45 PM - 0/48

7:00 PM - 22/79

7:15 PM - 14/44

7:45 PM - 17/44

8:00 PM - 18/45

8:15 PM - 23/167

8:30 PM - 9/45

8:45 PM - 2/44

9:00 PM - 9/49

9:15 PM - 0/44

9:30 PM - 2/55

9:45 PM - 3/217

10:00 PM - 0/48

10:15 PM - 2/79

10:30 PM - 0/44

11:00 PM - 0/44

11:15 PM - 0/45

11:30 PM - 3/167

11:45 PM - 0/45

 

Total

 

977(+33)/4384 (22.3%)

[XXR & Friends]

54 minutes ago, FlashMaster659 said:

Total

 

977(+33)/4384 (22.3%)

 

O/U 2000 sold by the time the fan event starts

[FlashMaster659]

8 minutes ago, VenomXXR said:

 

O/U 2000 sold by the time the fan event starts

Would be 1.2055x Toy Story 4

[XXR & Friends]

4 minutes ago, FlashMaster659 said:

Would be 1.2055x Toy Story 4

 

Well that's not acceptable. 

O/U 2500! 

[Inceptionzq]

On 7/6/2019 at 11:37 AM, Inceptionzq said:

The Lion King Thursday Night Showings Denver Metro

 

AMC Westminster Promenade 24:

IMAX: 

7 PM – 31/411(+3)

10 PM – 7/411

 

Real D 3D:

6:30 PM – 0/48

7:10 PM – 5/48

9:25 PM – 0/48

10:05 PM – 0/48

 

Prime 3D:

7:30 PM – 57/187(+1)

10:30 PM – 3/187

 

Dolby:

6 PM- 129/217

9 PM – 58/217

11:50 PM – 5/217

 

2D: 

6 PM – 35/158(+3)

6 PM – 4/56(+4)

6:10 PM – 0/48

6:20 PM – 4/44

6:40 PM – 0/94

6:50 PM – 9/92

7:20 PM – 11/44

7:40 PM – 2/56

7:50 PM – 0/44

8 PM – 3/40

8:10 PM – 2/36

8:20 PM – 0/48

8:30 PM – 4/94

8:40 PM – 0/92

8:50 PM – 0/44

9:05 PM – 4/158

9:10 PM – 0/56

9:15 PM – 0/48

9:20 PM – 0/44

9:30 PM – 3/94

9:45 PM – 0/92

10:15 PM – 0/44

10:40 PM – 2/56

10:50 PM – 0/44

11 PM – 0/40

11:10 PM – 0/36

11:20 PM – 0/48

11:30 PM – 0/94

11:40 PM – 0/92

11:50 PM – 0/44

11:55 PM – 0/56

12:00 AM – 0/158

 

AMC Highlands Ranch 24:

IMAX: 

7 PM – 51/384(+6)

10 PM – 6/384(+1)

 

Real D 3D: 

6:30 PM – 3/85

7:30 PM – 0/52

9:30 PM – 0/85

10:30 PM – 0/52

 

Dolby: 

6 PM – 77/210(+2)

9 PM – 44/210

 

2D:

6 PM – 26/159(+1)

6:10 PM – 0/52

6:15 PM – 0/52

6:20 PM – 0/41

6:40 PM – 14/85

6:50 PM – 4/39(+2)

7:10 PM – 7/45

7:15 PM – 2/85

7:20 PM – 0/45

7:40 PM – 0/52

7:50 PM – 0/39

8 PM – 8/159

8:10 PM – 0/45

8:20 PM – 0/41

8:30 PM – 11/85

9:10 PM – 0/52

9:15 PM – 2/52

9:20 PM – 0/41

9:30 PM – 0/159

9:40 PM – 0/85

9:50 PM – 0/39

10:10 PM – 0/45

10:15 PM – 0/85

10:20 PM – 0/45

10:40 PM – 0/52

10:50 PM – 0/39

11 PM – 2/159

 

Total from 7 theaters: 1406(+271)/18205(+1339) (7.7% (+1))

I decided to add one more theater to spread out a little more in the Denver Metro area. So, the tickets sold from the original 6 theaters is 47.

 

 

The Lion King Thursday Night Showings Denver Metro

 

AMC Westminster Promenade 24:

IMAX:

7 PM – 34/411(+3)

10 PM – 9/411(+2)

 

Real D 3D:

6:30 PM – 0/48

7:10 PM – 5/48

9:25 PM – 0/48

10:05 PM – 0/48

 

Prime 3D:

7:30 PM – 59/187(+2)

10:30 PM – 3/187

 

Dolby:

6 PM- 131/217(+2)

9 PM – 59/217(+1)

11:50 PM – 5/217

 

2D:

6 PM – 42/158(+7)

6 PM – 4/56

6:10 PM – 0/48

6:20 PM – 4/44

6:40 PM – 0/94

6:50 PM – 11/92(+2)

7:20 PM – 11/44

7:40 PM – 2/56

7:50 PM – 0/44

8 PM – 5/40(+2)

8:10 PM – 2/36

8:20 PM – 5/48(+5)

8:30 PM – 4/94

8:40 PM – 0/92

8:50 PM – 0/44

9:05 PM – 4/158

9:10 PM – 0/56

9:15 PM – 0/48

9:20 PM – 0/44

9:30 PM – 3/94

9:45 PM – 0/92

10:15 PM – 0/44

10:40 PM – 2/56

10:50 PM – 0/44

11 PM – 0/40

11:10 PM – 0/36

11:20 PM – 0/48

11:30 PM – 0/94

11:40 PM – 0/92

11:50 PM – 0/44

11:55 PM – 0/56

12:00 AM – 0/158

 

AMC Highlands Ranch 24:

IMAX:

7 PM – 61/384(+10)

10 PM – 6/384

 

Real D 3D:

6:30 PM – 3/85

7:30 PM – 0/52

9:30 PM – 0/85

10:30 PM – 0/52

 

Dolby:

6 PM – 77/210

9 PM – 50/210(+6)

 

2D:

6 PM – 27/159(+1)

6:10 PM – 0/52

6:15 PM – 0/52

6:20 PM – 0/41

6:40 PM – 15/85(+1)

6:50 PM – 4/39

7:10 PM – 7/45

7:15 PM – 4/85(+2)

7:20 PM – 0/45

7:40 PM – 0/52

7:50 PM – 0/39

8 PM – 8/159

8:10 PM – 0/45

8:20 PM – 0/41

8:30 PM – 14/85(+3)

9:10 PM – 0/52

9:15 PM – 2/52

9:20 PM – 0/41

9:30 PM – 0/159

9:40 PM – 0/85

9:50 PM – 0/39

10:10 PM – 0/45

10:15 PM – 0/85

10:20 PM – 0/45

10:40 PM – 0/52

10:50 PM – 0/39

11 PM – 2/159

 

Total from 7 theaters: 1556(+150)/18205 (8.5% (+0.8))

Good increase in ticket sales. Even without the new theater I added, there were still 123 tickets sold. It’ll be interesting to see how this week goes with sales.

[Porthos]

If we're talking about ticket goals, I'd say 10.2k is the target in Sacto.

 

Currently at 2,559 (as of last night).

TS4 did 5,079 over the last 12 days.

5,079 * 1.5 = 7,619 (rounded)

7,619 + 2,559 = 10,178.  

Round up to 10.2k and that equals 1.521x TS4 total = 18.25m

 

In case people care, 10.2k at final bell would also be

2.615x Aladdin = 18.31m

3.2946x Pika PIka = 18.78m

 

To get to 20m in previews as a comp, 11.2k in tickets sold at final bell would be the target, more or less.

[Krissykins]

Anyway, do we have any tracking for this weekends openers? 

[XXR & Friends]

9 minutes ago, Krissykins said:

Anyway, do we have any tracking for this weekends openers? 

 

No.

[Joyous Legion]

25 minutes ago, Krissykins said:

Anyway, do we have any tracking for this weekends openers?

Not with pulse and MT down. Small openers like that usually don't get much manual seat count attention (for good reason, people would burn the fuck out). @Menor's Cinemark scraping might provide some insight later in the week?

[Porthos]

4 minutes ago, Thanos Legion said:

Not with pulse and MT down. Small openers like that usually don't get much manual seat count attention (for good reason, people would burn the fuck out). @Menor's Cinemark scraping might provide some insight later in the week?

I think @Krissykins meant from the trades.

 

Haven't seen anything recent on those two outside of BOP. Probably get an updates by Wed.

 

===

 

This is the latest from BOP for what it's worth:

 

Quote

7/12/2019	Crawl	$15,000,000	-17%	$39,000,000	-17%	3,000	Paramount
7/12/2019	Stuber	$17,000,000	-3%	$63,000,000	-3%	3,000	Fox

 

Edited July 7, 2019 by Porthos

[Menor the Destroyer]

16 minutes ago, Thanos Legion said:

Not with pulse and MT down. Small openers like that usually don't get much manual seat count attention (for good reason, people would burn the fuck out). @Menor's Cinemark scraping might provide some insight later in the week?

I'll probably be more interested in tracking FFH weekend 2/TLK OW presales this weekend tbh. Unless any of you are particularly interested in Crawl or Stuber numbers?

[Tinalera]

Toronto ontario canada 
The Lion King
July 18

Scotiabank Theatre

 

IMAX
630 143/416(+6)
930 104/416(+7)

Queensway 

 

VIP
700 117/136(+0)
1000 100/136(+3)

 

AVX
630 115/377(+22)
930. 22/377(+4)

 

Recliner
615 39/279(+8)
95 35/279(+4)

 

Yonge and dundas

VIP
650 65/77(+0)
950. 59/77(+3)

ULTRAAVX
750 58/377(+0)
1020 18/377(+0)

4dx
720 52/82(+3)
920 14/82(+0)

Recliner
700 62/246(+0)
815 51/227(+10)
1000 4/246(+0)

 

 

Edited July 7, 2019 by Tinalera

[Joyous Legion]

34 minutes ago, Porthos said:

I think @Krissykins meant from the trades.

Oh, right, industry tracking. Don’t bother, it’s useless 

[Krissykins]

57 minutes ago, Porthos said:

I think @Krissykins meant from the trades.

 

Haven't seen anything recent on those two outside of BOP. Probably get an updates by Wed.

 

===

 

This is the latest from BOP for what it's worth:

 

 

Thanks, BOP reduced Crawl by $3m from yesterday lol. I think it’ll do sub $10m anyway. 

 

Side note yeh, my eyes glaze over with these big sequels and remakes when they reach a certain level, I find the smaller surprises and sleeper hits more interesting to follow. 

[Cap]

2 hours ago, Krissykins said:

Anyway, do we have any tracking for this weekends openers? 

On movies that small I never start until the week before, and it depends on if the theaters even doing previews. 

[Sunny Max]

1 hour ago, Tinalera said:

Toronto ontario canada 
The Lion King
July 18

Scotiabank Theatre

 

IMAX
630 143/416(+6)
930 104/416(+7)

Queensway 

 

VIP
700 117/136(+0)
1000 100/136(+3)

 

AVX
630 115/377(+22)
930. 22/377(+4)

 

Recliner
615 39/279(+8)
95 35/279(+4)

 

Yonge and dundas

VIP
650 65/77(+0)
950. 59/77(+3)

ULTRAAVX
750 58/377(+0)
1020 18/377(+0)

4dx
720 52/82(+3)
920 14/82(+0)

Recliner
700 62/246(+0)
815 51/227(+10)
1000 4/246(+0)

 

 

Looks good ... 

[Eric is Quiet]

So I was starting out my comps, and I just realized that one of the theaters I was tracking was not in PA, but all the way in Michigan. It wasn't my fault, because both theaters share the exact same name (don't ask me why), but it still sucks. And wouldn't you know it, it completely screws up all the work I've done so far. To quote the star of Show Dogs, I made a huge mistake.

 

So basically I'll have one adjusted comp that excludes the messed up theater, and then I'll add in the new theater into the mix.

[Menor the Destroyer]

TLK Previews (as of this afternoon) at Cinemark

Theaters: 230

Showings: 3095

Tickets Sold:42343

Estimated ATP: $12.83

Estimated Total Sales: $543,333  (25% of FFH OD final sales)

note: Estimated ATP doesn't account for a larger frequency of child tickets, only for premium screens/3D percentage. 

 

Based on this I estimate that TLK previews have already earned between $4 and $5 million in presales nationwide. 

 

[Porthos]

10 minutes ago, CoolEric258 said:

So I was starting out my comps, and I just realized that one of the theaters I was tracking was not in PA, but all the way in Michigan. It wasn't my fault, because both theaters share the exact same name (don't ask me why), but it still sucks. And wouldn't you know it, it completely screws up all the work I've done so far. To quote the star of Show Dogs, I made a huge mistake.

 

So basically I'll have one adjusted comp that excludes the messed up theater, and then I'll add in the new theater into the mix.

My extreme sympathies.  Tracking a wrong theater would legit be one of my nightmares.

 

At least you caught it AND it was only for about a week or so.