WEEKEND THREAD | 3-DAY ESTIMATES: Pirates - 62M ; Baywatch - 18M; Alien - 10.5M (71% drop) like. F8 crosses 1B OS.

[TwoMisfits]

4 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

Hot take: both Alien and POTC will have another film.

 

In about 25 years as a rebooted attempt at a new series when Hollywood is farming the aughts for film ideas...

[John Marston]

Can see an Alien vs Predator reboot if next years Predator does well

[Ozymandias]

4 minutes ago, WrathOfHan said:

Hot take: both Alien and POTC will have another film.

 

Hot take: Alien Covenant would've made more money if it was Prometheus sequel.  Compare the Prometheus trailers to the Covenant trailers.  The first's trailers were amazing, Covenant's were generic.

[Ozymandias]

10 minutes ago, kitik said:

 

 

Eagles couldn't fly into Mordor until Sauron's ring had been cast into Mount Doom. Simple as that.

They would have been smoked if they had tried to fly in sooner.

 

Not with 10,000 eagles could you do this, it is folly.

[John Marston]

Alien has never been a huge franchise after Aliens as well. Even Alien 3 was not that big 

[Cmasterclay]

I wish I could get excited for Baby Driver like everyone else is, but it seems alot more like Scott Pilgrim Wright than Hot Fuzz Wright. And like Scott Pilgrim, this has a squirely wafer of a charisma vacuum in the lead, so I'll end up rooting for everyone else. 

[MyMovieCanBeatUpYourMovie]

1 minute ago, grim22 said:

 

True, but the GA looks at RT as a score. 10% is considered 10/100 which is how it is disseminated in the press and articles instead of the actual review scores which could be say 40/100.

 

Well, generally, a film with a higher percentage vs. another film is also going to have a higher average rating (unless we're talking films with very close percentages), so it's just a matter of degree.  

 

It's the difference between showing 100 people in a room a film and then asking the people who liked it to raise their hand, vs. asking them all to write down a score from 1 to 10.  Both useful, but in different ways.

 

 

[That One Girl]

Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Franchises Will Tell No More Tales

[Water Bottle]

2 hours ago, grim22 said:

Movie studios seem to be taking Rotten Tomatoes seriously. Can see big changes coming for that site soon @baumer

 

 

Would love to see the results of that study. If the study finds RT doesn't affect advance ticket sales, Time Warner and Comcast aren't going to change the site.

 

Wonder how they would change it though.

[kitik]

2 minutes ago, John Marston said:

Alien has never been a huge franchise after Aliens as well. Even Alien 3 was not that big 

 

Yeah, Prometheus was actually an over-performer.

 

So long as you don't expect Alien movies to be gigantic, it's a perfectly fine mid-level or even small-level franchise.

[grey ghost]

4 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:

 

In about 25 years as a rebooted attempt at a new series when Hollywood is farming the aughts for film ideas...

 

The reboot cycle gets shorter and shorter.

 

It went from 25 years to every 4-8 years.

[GiantCALBears]

3 minutes ago, MyMovieCanBeatUpYourMovie said:

 

Well, generally, a film with a higher percentage vs. another film is also going to have a higher average rating (unless we're talking films with very close percentages), so it's just a matter of degree.  

 

It's the difference between showing 100 people in a room a film and then asking the people who liked it to raise their hand, vs. asking them all to write down a score from 1 to 10.  Both useful, but in different ways.

 

 

Id prefer the former because I feel like too often people are generous graders. The sample gets more noisy as opposed to deciding simply I liked it or didn't. 

[John Marston]

7 minutes ago, CJohn said:

They can keep it at 230M. If they do another one, it will be sold as the final chapter anyway.

 

 

Bringing back Gore, And Keira and Orlando for proper roles would be a good idea. Also bringing back Rick Heinrichs and Hans Zimmer

[GiantCALBears]

1 minute ago, grey ghost said:

 

The reboot cycle gets shorter and shorter.

 

It went from 25 years to every 4-8 years.

It's getting embarrassing. Sony should feel that way about Spiderman. 

[TwoMisfits]

1 minute ago, grey ghost said:

 

The reboot cycle gets shorter and shorter.

 

It went from 25 years to every 4-8 years.

 

But it might lengthen again if those new reboots fail...just like we might see less 5quels soon:)...

[MyMovieCanBeatUpYourMovie]

1 minute ago, GiantCALBears said:

Id prefer the former because I feel like too often people are generous graders. The sample gets more noisy as opposed to deciding simply I liked it or didn't. 

 

And you also have no reason to expect that a 7 for one person means the same thing as a 7 for another person.  You would have to have the same group rate multiple films for the averages to have much meaning.

[GiantCALBears]

3 minutes ago, Water Bottle said:

 

Would love to see the results of that study. If the study finds RT doesn't affect advance ticket sales, Time Warner and Comcast aren't going to change the site.

 

Wonder how they would change it though.

Its hilarious they think they can dupe the public into going OW to a shit film. They will be sorely mistaken if they cut off critical access beforehand. 

[Cmasterclay]

It'll be harder to reboot Pirates for nostalgia in 10+ years because so much of the franchise's peak appeal is built around Jack Sparrow, Jack Sparrow, Jack Sparrow. So either he would have to come back, with Depp older and more toxic, or it would lose the soul of the franchise. It's not like Jurassic World, where they could just add a new cast with the same premise and mine nostalgia, because no one saw the original for Sam Neill.

[kitik]

3 minutes ago, grey ghost said:

 

The reboot cycle gets shorter and shorter.

 

It went from 25 years to every 4-8 years.

 

ASM 2 was 2014

Tom Holland showed up in Civil War in 2016.

[grey ghost]

3 minutes ago, Water Bottle said:

 

Would love to see the results of that study. If the study finds RT doesn't affect advance ticket sales, Time Warner and Comcast aren't going to change the site.

 

Wonder how they would change it though.

 

Worst case scenario, if they do change it, Shawn will just make an alternative site to RT that's even better than the original.