Theater bans Gone With The Wind for being "Insensitive"

[Cmasterclay]

2 minutes ago, Noctis said:

 

I have no doubt in my mind that they are reprehensible works that have led to ideologies which have killed millions of people. However, why not do the exact same when it comes with the Old Testament, New Testament, Bible, and the Quran? You could easily argue that all of those have horrendous messages that glorify the exclusivity and superiority of their own religion. 

 

Hm?

That's a whole other ball of wax. It's an interesting argument, but religious texts open for interpretation and rooted in spirituality aren't the same as books saying "All Jews are heathens that deserve to be mass exterminated" that people read and said "Yep, let's do that" as recently as 1945. 

 

 

[grey ghost]

7 minutes ago, tribefan695 said:

I'm not convinced that isn't the road people ultimately want to go with Confederacy related history.

 

Why not?

 

Somehow these statues haven't prevented millions of Southerners and others from thinking that the Civil War had little to do with slavery.

 

If celebrating the confederacy is supposed to teach the South about historical truths then it's doing a piss poor job.

[Noctis]

2 minutes ago, Spidey Freak said:

Lol I knew somebody would be making a topic about this. I think it's on the wrong board though.

 

Anyway, about damn time. GWTW has been one of the biggest culprits of creating nostalgia for a false Edenic era regarding a magically romantic South where "coloreds knew their place". As Cmasterclay and grey ghost said, no need to ban it from all public showings, but keep it for American studies sessions, theatrical showings for American History festivals, and the home video should come with expert commentary from socio-political historians (though is there GWTW HV already available with such tracks?). It should never be separated from context.    

 

 

 

I don't disagree with this, but it's a little worrisome how many things people are calling to get banned on such a massive scale in the West. 

[JB33]

2 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said:

Also, man the free speech/white identity crowd is such a bunch of "triggered snowflakes:. Acting like one little ass theater banning some four hour long Clark Gable romance is the same as actual oppression. Give me a fucking break.

It has nothing to do with one isolated event. It has everything to do with the inevitable domino effect where people strive to crate this overly PC, faux Utopia.

[Cmasterclay]

I'm fairly certain that if you put a ballot initative making slavery legal again up to vote, a majority of white southerners would vote yes on it, or at least close. For all the talks of the dangers of banning and taking down statues, the alternative hasn't helped when people celebrate this as a great era for the South that needs to be brought back.

[DAR]

5 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said:

The Germans took down every Nazi statue and probably don't show Triumph of the Will in theaters. Have we wiped Nazis from the history books yet?

No but I do believe some people naively think if we push this stuff below ground and forget about it we aren't doomed to repeat the past

[Noctis]

4 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said:

That's a whole other ball of wax. It's an interesting argument, but religious texts open for interpretation and rooted in spirituality aren't the same as books saying "All Jews are heathens that deserve to be mass exterminated" that people read and said "Yep, let's do that" as recently as 1945. 

 

 

 

Well, sweetie pie, I suggest you go to Iraq and see what they have done to the Christian minorities there as well as the total and utter genocide of the Yazidis and Kurds. You could easily argue that Mein Kempf (sp?) is deeply spiritual to millions, as well. 

 

I have always found your defense of Islam (not Muslims) to be particularly worrying. 

Edited August 27, 2017 by Noctis

[Chaz]

1 minute ago, Cmasterclay said:

I'm fairly certain that if you put a ballot initative making slavery legal again up to vote, a majority of white southerners would vote yes on it, or at least close.

Wow. 

Edited August 27, 2017 by Chaz

[Cmasterclay]

1 minute ago, JB33 said:

It has nothing to do with one isolated event. It has everything to do with the inevitable domino effect where people strive to crate this overly PC, faux Utopia.

Do you feel as if your rights to enjoy culture are really being suppressed because you can't say the same stupid South Park ass jokes anymore? Good! Now imagine thinking that everytime a police officer pulls you over, you're gonna get shot in the back of the head for reaching for your registration. 

[Alli]

6 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said:

That's a whole other ball of wax. It's an interesting argument, but religious texts open for interpretation and rooted in spirituality aren't the same as books saying "All Jews are heathens that deserve to be mass exterminated" that people read and said "Yep, let's do that" as recently as 1945. 

 

 

But does GWTW say lets kill all black people or something like that? NO....you're talking about extreme things.

Edited August 27, 2017 by Alli

[Noctis]

2 minutes ago, Chaz said:

Wow. 

Yes, this is what bothers me, too. I'm not American but I follow American politics and society very closely and there is no reason to believe that over 50% of them would vote for the return of slavery. That is just beyond absurd. 

 

Talk about a fucking hyperbole and then ask yourselves why the left has gone off the deep end. And no...the left should not dare call themselves liberals. They have become anything but.

Edited August 27, 2017 by Noctis

[JB33]

1 minute ago, Cmasterclay said:

Do you feel as if your rights to enjoy culture are really being suppressed because you can't say the same stupid South Park ass jokes anymore? Good! Now imagine thinking that everytime a police officer pulls you over, you're gonna get shot in the back of the head for reaching for your registration. 

I never proclaimed any doom and gloom like you suggest. I indicated that I just find it annoying.

[Chaz]

1 minute ago, Noctis said:

Yes, this is what bothers me, too. I'm not American but I follow American politics and society very closely and there is no reason to believe that over 50% of them would vote for the return of slavery. That is just beyond absurd. 

 

Talk about a fucking hyperbole and then ask yourselves why the left has gone off the deep end. And no...the left has lost all platform to call themselves liberals anymore.

David Duke, a former KKK leader, ran for office in a District in South Louisiana, one of the reddest of red states in 2016. 

 

He won less than 2% of the vote.

Edited August 27, 2017 by Chaz

[CoolioD1]

gone with the wind is no where near as bad as hmmm... any of the other texts being mentioned in this thread. even birth of a nation. this thread got absurd real fast.

[grey ghost]

Even if Amazon banned the bible there are literally thousands of entrepreneurs who would gladly sell it.

 

Which is why the Bill of Rights prevents the government from banning things.

 

We can sell whatever book or movie we want, for the most part.

 

There are exceptions like child porn, of course, but no one is stopping you from buying Gone with the Wind if you feel the need to see it.

 

The Blu-ray is on Amazon for 17 bucks.

[lab276]

1 minute ago, DAR said:

No but I do believe some people naively think if we push this stuff below ground and forget about it we aren't doomed to repeat the past

 

When it comes to stuff like Nazism and fascism I think we're much better off pushing it into the shadows, because, for whatever reason, it is a startlingly attractive ideology to too many people.

[Noctis]

Just now, Chaz said:

David Duke, a former KKK leader, ran for office in a District in South Louisiana, one of the reddest of red states in 2016. 

 

He won 2% of the vote.

 

I'm sure the 2% of the vote was a conspiracy and it's actually 52%.

[Cmasterclay]

1 minute ago, DAR said:

No but I do believe some people naively think if we push this stuff below ground and forget about it we aren't doomed to repeat the past

Right, I think we're doomed to repeat the past regardless, my friend, but we should be taking efforts to at least try to mitigate that. My family is from the South. They don't consider this a failed war. They consider this a "lost cause." That's dangerous. 

 

2 minutes ago, Noctis said:

 

Well, sweetie pie, I suggest you go to Iraq and see what they have done to the Christian minorities there as well as the total and utter genocide of the Yazidis and Kurds. You could easily argue that Mein Kempf (sp?) is deeply spiritual to millions, as well. 

 

I have always found your defense of Islam (not Muslims) to be particularly worrying. 

Yep, and the Bible and Quaran have also led to millions of charities and spiritual organizations that have helped tons of people. Some of my friends who I know were in the Christian Varsity organization at GW are flying to Houston right now. Religion and political ideology are whole different ballgames. 

 

Also, I can give a shit about Islam, I barely give a shit about my own religion - I wasn't even bar mitzvahed. I care about the outright oppression of Muslims and Jews in the United States and the equal right to follow non-violent traditions and worship.

[Premium George]

Love you cmasterclay and grey ghost. JB33, I understand your fear but you just need to have one look at what germany did. They banned nazi symbols, salutes, and books glorifying it. But they didn't remove it from education. They are thought about that history without anything glorifying it in their country. 

America has always been criticised for not taking serious steps against confederacy symbols from inside and outside alike. A child learns that civil war was bad and bad people lost. But then he gets outside and see confederacy flags getting waved. Charlotsville was a wake up call, that glorifying this symbols had serious effects. Ofcourse more and more people will join the cause.

[Cmasterclay]

3 minutes ago, Noctis said:

Yes, this is what bothers me, too. I'm not American but I follow American politics and society very closely and there is no reason to believe that over 50% of them would vote for the return of slavery. That is just beyond absurd. 

 

Talk about a fucking hyperbole and then ask yourselves why the left has gone off the deep end. And no...the left should not dare call themselves liberals. They have become anything but.

Maybe it was an exaggeration, but it's a hell of a lot more than say...20%. It's a scary number.