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[dudalb]

1 hour ago, BoxOfficeFangrl said:

Maybe she's just doing a song for the Mission: Impossible movie? Maybe???

 

 

Anybody else note Cruise does not talk much about the COS nowdays?

[BoxOfficeFangrl]

1 hour ago, dudalb said:

Anybody else note Cruise does not talk much about the COS nowdays?

His image/box office tanked after that summer of proselytizing, so eventually he shut up about it and turned that energy into only doing movies with insane stunts. He does the mildest of interviews and promotes his movies with even crazier stunts, so the public thinks of him as an intense guy, but hey, he just wants to entertain the masses! With all the oversharing social media personalities around, an old school star being guarded about his personal life has its appeal to normies. You're not going to get Vanity Fair grilling him about the last time he saw Shelley Miscavige or Suri.

Edited May 10, 2023 by BoxOfficeFangrl

[John Marston]

 

 

No

[grim22]

12 minutes ago, BoxOfficeFangrl said:

His image/box office tanked after that summer of proselytizing, so eventually he shut up about it and turned that energy into only doing movies with insane stunts. He does the mildest of interviews and promotes his movies with even crazier stunts, so the public thinks of him as an intense guy, but hey, he just wants to entertain the masses! With all the oversharing social media personalities around, an old school star being guarded about his personal life has its appeal to normies. You're not going to get Vanity Fair grilling him about the last time he saw Shelley Miscavige or Suri.

 

Also everyone in the movie industry believes that Top Gun 2 would have been a bigger contender last Oscars if Cruise had hit the campaign trail. But they also believe that Cruise likely didn't because there was a 100% chance of Scientology questions coming up and Cruise would rather not be dragged into those discussions in a public forum. There's a reason he only made like 2 appearances and both times he was the only one talking, he even cancelled attending the Oscars because he didn't want Scientology jokes.

 

His public image currently is removed from Scientology after a decade of trying, no way he wants that connection made publicly again.

[dudalb]

54 minutes ago, BoxOfficeFangrl said:

His image/box office tanked after that summer of proselytizing, so eventually he shut up about it and turned that energy into only doing movies with insane stunts. He does the mildest of interviews and promotes his movies with even crazier stunts, so the public thinks of him as an intense guy, but hey, he just wants to entertain the masses! With all the oversharing social media personalities around, an old school star being guarded about his personal life has its appeal to normies. You're not going to get Vanity Fair grilling him about the last time he saw Shelley Miscavige or Suri.

I am cynical enough to wonder if the CO$ being no longer nearly as powerful as it once was has something to do with Cruise's silence.

Circa 2010, the CO$ took hit after hit as new revealations about it took it's toll.When many celebs openly broke with the church, it's days of being a powerful player in Hollywood were over.

 

 

[BoxOfficeFangrl]

1 hour ago, dudalb said:

I am cynical enough to wonder if the CO$ being no longer nearly as powerful as it once was has something to do with Cruise's silence.

Circa 2010, the CO$ took hit after hit as new revealations about it took it's toll.When many celebs openly broke with the church, it's days of being a powerful player in Hollywood were over.

 

 

That's always a factor, the loss of power. Weinstein was toppled when his studio wasn't as successful as it had been in the past, so there was less fear of retaliation for speaking out. And without money it's harder to be litigious.

 

But I won't discount how poorly Tom's CoS evangelism played at the time, especially with women. Probably another reason he sticks to action movies now--which play the strongest with male audiences--when he used to dabble across genres much more. He's also lucky he went off the rails pre-Twitter and that Brooke Shields forgave him.

Edited May 11, 2023 by BoxOfficeFangrl

[dudalb]

51 minutes ago, BoxOfficeFangrl said:

That's always a factor, the loss of power. Weinstein was toppled when his studio wasn't as successful as it had been in the past, so there was less fear of retaliation for speaking out. And without money it's harder to be litigious.

 

But I won't discount how poorly Tom's CoS evangelism played at the time, especially with women. Probably another reason he sticks to action movies now--which play the strongest with male audiences--when he used to dabble across genres much more. He's also lucky he went off the rails pre-Twitter and that Brooke Shields forgave him.

I honestly think Matt and Trey, creators of South Park are loving this. They ridiculed the COS when nobody else would, and they are vindicated.

[ChipDerby]

 

[BoxOfficeFangrl]

Well, thank goodness...

 

 

Gotta be an ego blow for Tom, even if he wasn't interested... He's had rumored relationships with other famous women since his last divorce but not in a splashy celebrity couple way since TomKat.

[cookie]

28 minutes ago, BoxOfficeFangrl said:

Well, thank goodness...

 

 

Gotta be an ego blow for Tom, even if he wasn't interested... He's had rumored relationships with other famous women since his last divorce but not in a splashy celebrity couple way since TomKat.

To be fair, given her recent legal problems, at least her rejection spared him from an incoming PR bullet.

[filmlover]

Tom's at that point in his life where he has to be fully aware that everyone would raise their eyebrows at him if he made it 4/4 in terms of divorces that occurred when the wife was 33 years old.

[keysersoze123]

What a game from the Nuggets. Went to phoenix and blew away the suns!!! I think they are the favorites to win it all this year. lEAST coast teams are not good enough to win it all and lakers I feel would be exhausted to take out the Nuggets. 

[Austin]

Jimmy Buckets will carry the Heat no worries.

[Napoleon]

This has been the best season of Survivor in ages

Edited May 12, 2023 by Napoleon

[BoxOfficeFangrl]

On 5/11/2023 at 9:15 PM, filmlover said:

Tom's at that point in his life where he has to be fully aware that everyone would raise their eyebrows at him if he made it 4/4 in terms of divorces that occurred when the wife was 33 years old.

The thing where each Cruise wife was 11 years younger than the previous one was an odd bit of trivia: that would put him with somebody born in 1989. Imagine Tom and Taylor, ha ha. But seriously, it's been over a decade since his last divorce. A lot of people tap out of the marriage market for good after three failed attempts.

 

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In his shoes, I think the best move would be to stay single and work on himself, but being poorly advised seems to be a hallmark of public image lately so...

 

 

People Magazine is also reporting it, alas. She was married to a preacher/studio exec until last year. It's quite the change uo for both of them...

[Jake Gittes]

On 5/13/2023 at 11:34 PM, BoxOfficeFangrl said:

Imagine Tom and Taylor, ha ha.

 

Her turn is coming

 

 

[dudalb]

Now looks as if the DGA is digging it's heels in and might strike, brining all scripted movie and TV porduction to a half.

[Austin]

1 minute ago, dudalb said:

Now looks as if the DGA is digging it's heels in and might strike, brining all scripted movie and TV porduction to a half.

I hate when production slows to a half.

[Torontofan]

Cleopatrw show got scored the worst show ever on imdb

[WorkingonaName]

good