redfirebird2008 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 5 minutes ago, The Last Panda said: Except the calendar isn't the same as RO, and there were more schools out for RO. That's been said multiple times. It's not identical, but Rogue One didn't have a huge boost either in the first week. Calendar sets up very well for Last Jedi, but it still needs to gross 30% more than Rogue One (which had its fair share of holiday boost over the next 2 weeks) to reach $700m. That's the target and it won't be easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey ghost Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 36 minutes ago, IronJimbo said: Maybe TLJ's performance is balancing the force. It would take a legendary flop to account for TFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deja23 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 6 minutes ago, The Last Panda said: I'm pretty sure the next trilogy is set in a new corner of the Galaxy. Ie, not episode 10. Disney may decide not to continue the episodes after 9. Yup. The next trilogy won’t be part of the episodic saga. Quote As writer-director of The Last Jedi, Johnson conceived and realized a powerful film of which Lucasfilm and Disney are immensely proud. In shepherding this new trilogy, which is separate from the episodic Skywalker saga, Johnson will introduce new characters from a corner of the galaxy that Star Wars lore has never before explored. http://www.starwars.com/news/rian-johnson-writer-director-of-star-wars-the-last-jedi-to-create-all-new-star-wars-trilogy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JB33 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 (edited) Sorry all. Just not having the best day. Anyway, some more schools are in session compared to last year. Fine. Today's increase will tell the tale. It's Friday. Everyone's off. It should have an even bigger jump than RO if word of mouth is indeed great and people are clamouring to see it. Edited December 22, 2017 by JB33 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fast and the Furiosa Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Heck, I wouldn’t even bet on this year playing out exactly like 2006. Very few increases so far for Thursday already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancelot Gold Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 4 hours ago, Lordmandeep said: IMO Netflix is likely going to kill off the mid-size film being profitable in theatres. Look out DC! 😂 2 hours ago, Brainbug said: Agreed. That 3,77 multiplier of TFA is still goddamn unbelievable. A once-in a lifetime performance. Besides that, Empires first run adjusts to 702M per BOM. So TLJ is in good company and still has a very good chance to gross a lot more than that. Furthermore, the 2nd parts of SW Trilogys are the lowest-grossing anyways, so a huge decline in raw numbers should have been expected anyway. Reveal hidden contents I still want it to top Avatar though Looking past December movies, every year and especially 2006, it's seems impossible for this to have less than 3.2x or 700m. I'm leaning more towards 3.5x with 770m, but that's certainly not the floor like 700m is, so I wouldn't be shocked if it didn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyGossamer Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 14 minutes ago, Deja23 said: Yup. The next trilogy won’t be part of the episodic saga. http://www.starwars.com/news/rian-johnson-writer-director-of-star-wars-the-last-jedi-to-create-all-new-star-wars-trilogy I have no doubt whatsoever that Disney will continue the saga AND produce Rian Johnson's trilogy. It's not like Disney only making saga Star Wars stuff now. We have a spinoff every other year as well. And, it's not like Disney, in conjunction with Marvel Studios, isn't making multiple trilogies for Marvel characters concurrently. There's no reason to believe Disney will not continue X through XII until Disney flat out says that they won't. Given saga flicks gross more than not only the other Star Wars movies but than every other Disney property only further cements my thinking here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 7 minutes ago, The Fast and the Furiosa said: Heck, I wouldn’t even bet on this year playing out exactly like 2006. Very few increases so far for Thursday already Wonder if that's a result of the new trend with Thursday previews for the new releases. In 2006 you still had midnight grosses or no previews at all for most movies, so the holdovers are able to have a full day without interference at 7 PM from new releases. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deja23 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 Just now, JohnnyGossamer said: I have no doubt whatsoever that Disney will continue the saga AND produce Rian Johnson's trilogy. It's not like Disney only making saga Star Wars stuff now. We have a spinoff every other year as well. And, it's not like Disney, in conjunction with Marvel Studios, isn't making multiple trilogies for Marvel characters concurrently. There's no reason to believe Disney will not continue X through XII until Disney flat out says that they won't. Given saga flicks gross more than not only the other Star Wars movies but than every other Disney property only further cements my thinking here. They will continue them at some point, but the next Star Wars trilogy won’t be connected to the episodic saga. I’d be surprised if they do 2 trilogies concurrently, especially since they also have a few standalone movies planned. They’re not going to do multiple Star Wars movies each year like they do for Marvel movies so I don’t see a new saga trilogy happening till post-2028. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 16 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said: Daily Domestic Chart for Thursday December 21st, 2017 ← Previous Chart Chart Index Movie Distributor Gross Change Thtrs. Per Thtr. Total Gross Days 1 (1) Star Wars Ep. VIII: The Las… Walt Disney $17,800,000 +5% 4,232 $4,206 $296,510,009 7 2 (2) Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle Sony Pictures $7,550,000 +5% 3,765 $2,005 $14,758,112 2 3 (3) The Greatest Showman 20th Century Fox $2,147,660 -12% 3,006 $714 $4,598,731 2 - (4) Ferdinand 20th Century Fox $1,688,290 +22% 3,621 $466 $19,482,884 7 - (6) Wonder Lionsgate $932,146 +8% 2,676 $348 $112,957,750 35 - (9) Justice League Warner Bros. $364,855 -10% 2,208 $165 $221,623,455 35 - (7) The Disaster Artist A24 $358,260 -17% 1,010 $355 $14,810,401 21 - (12) Lady Bird A24 $295,416 -5% 947 $312 $27,300,818 49 - (11) Daddy’s Home 2 Paramount Pictures $271,317 -20% 1,545 $176 $98,275,556 42 - (13) Murder on the Orient Express 20th Century Fox $221,145 -16% 1,200 $184 $98,721,983 42 - (14) The Shape of Water Fox Searchlight $213,252 -10% 158 $1,350 $4,565,665 21 - (15) Three Billboards Outside Eb… Fox Searchlight $178,286 -12% 707 $252 $22,215,619 42 - (-) Darkest Hour Focus Features $129,995 -2% 84 $1,548 $2,853,077 30 - (-) A Bad Moms Christmas STX Entertainment $72,844 -33% 1,038 $70 $71,358,592 51 - (-) Blade Runner 2049 Warner Bros. $11,276 +6% 100 $113 $91,524,557 77 - (-) Geostorm Warner Bros. $10,249 +4% 165 $62 $33,424,531 63 - (-) Jigsaw Lionsgate $10,132 +6% 151 $67 $38,052,832 56 - (-) The Florida Project A24 $9,338 +16% 66 $141 $5,166,086 77 - (-) Despicable Me 3 Universal $7,930 -7% 109 $73 $264,624,300 175 - (-) The Ballad of Lefty Brown A24 $7,856 2 $3,928 $7,856 7 - (-) The Foreigner STX Entertainment $5,432 +9% 93 $58 $34,393,507 70 - (-) Kingsman: The Golden Circle 20th Century Fox $5,085 +9% 92 $55 $100,199,005 91 - (-) The Mountain Between Us 20th Century Fox $4,947 +24% 112 $44 $30,348,555 77 - (-) The Breadwinner GKIDS $4,400 +101% 28 $157 $200,827 35 - (-) Victoria and Abdul Focus Features $4,215 +10% 56 $75 $22,196,285 91 - (-) Marshall Open Road $2,823 +28% 71 $40 $9,437,547 70 - (-) The Killing of a Sacred Deer A24 $2,765 +13% 23 $120 $2,285,729 63 - (-) Birdboy: The Forgotten Chil… GKIDS $1,902 +28% 4 $476 $11,855 7 - (-) Last Flag Flying Amazon Studios $1,158 +38% 9 $129 $965,481 49 - (-) Same Kind of Different as Me Pure Flix Entertain… $511 +290% 7 $73 $6,360,709 63 Wonder continues to perform well. Already at a 4x multiplier. I can see it pushing for 5x. DH2 and MOTOE has been a close race, but with the massive loss of theaters on Friday for MOTOE and DH2 having a Christmas theme, it’ll pull ahead easily now. $100M for both with ease though. Great runs. Three Billboards and Lady Bird both having quietly good runs as well. Justice League not following FB holds any more. And with the TC down to 1k instead of the 2k FB got for Christmas weekend, I see around 235M finish (over/under FB total) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyGossamer Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 1 minute ago, Deja23 said: They will continue them at some point, but the next Star Wars trilogy won’t be connected to the episodic saga. I’d be surprised if they do 2 trilogies concurrently, especially since they also have a few standalone movies planned. They’re not going to do multiple Star Wars movies each year like they do for Marvel movies so I don’t see a new saga trilogy happening till post-2028. Possibly. I don't know though. Han spinoff in 2018. Episode IX in 2019. Obi Wan movie likely in 2020. Rian Johnson first movie probably 2021. Then, I think Episode X will be 2022 or 2023. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmandeep Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, JohnnyGossamer said: I have no doubt whatsoever that Disney will continue the saga AND produce Rian Johnson's trilogy. It's not like Disney only making saga Star Wars stuff now. We have a spinoff every other year as well. And, it's not like Disney, in conjunction with Marvel Studios, isn't making multiple trilogies for Marvel characters concurrently. There's no reason to believe Disney will not continue X through XII until Disney flat out says that they won't. Given saga flicks gross more than not only the other Star Wars movies but than every other Disney property only further cements my thinking here. Will be interesting, don't think the fanbase will be on board with a Rian Johnson Trilogy unless JJ brings them back in Episode 9. Maybe this is turning into the MCU, where if fans get angry at one film, a good part brings them back and repeat. Edited December 22, 2017 by Lordmandeep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomCat Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 On a side note, I like how Wonder is just kind of chugging along. It's kind of fun. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 13 minutes ago, lancelot123 said: Look out DC! 😂 Looking past December movies, every year and especially 2006, it's seems impossible for this to have less than 3.2x or 700m. I'm leaning more towards 3.5x with 770m, but that's certainly not the floor like 700m is, so I wouldn't be shocked if it didn't happen. I think it gets over 700, but something under that number is not impossible. If the film grosses 28-29% more than Rogue One the rest of the way, it finishes at $695m. This is not an impossible scenario. Needs exactly a 30% lead the rest of the way to reach $700m. Needs about 52.7% lead the rest of the way to reach your $770m prediction. Seems very difficult to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fast and the Furiosa Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 13 minutes ago, redfirebird2008 said: Wonder if that's a result of the new trend with Thursday previews for the new releases. In 2006 you still had midnight grosses or no previews at all for most movies, so the holdovers are able to have a full day without interference at 7 PM from new releases. Yeah that’s definitely part of it for Thursday’s in general. Last night didn’t set the world on fire, but may have been the difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lordmandeep Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 7 minutes ago, redfirebird2008 said: I think it gets over 700, but something under that number is not impossible. If the film grosses 28-29% more than Rogue One the rest of the way, it finishes at $695m. This is not an impossible scenario. Needs exactly a 30% lead the rest of the way to reach $700m. Needs about 52.7% lead the rest of the way to reach your $770m prediction. Seems very difficult to me. Its gonna be interesting, from now till 25th should be running 10% ahead, then from there goes up to 30-40% but after that does it go back down unsure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deja23 Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 (edited) 19 minutes ago, JohnnyGossamer said: Possibly. I don't know though. Han spinoff in 2018. Episode IX in 2019. Obi Wan movie likely in 2020. Rian Johnson first movie probably 2021. Then, I think Episode X will be 2022 or 2023. Will the Obi Wan movie be in May like Solo? Because if the Disney/Fox deal goes through, they’ll have to work around the Avatar sequels’ release dates. That might affect the saga trilogy’s release dates, which will have to compete with RJ’s trilogy for dates as well. Plus the prequel trilogy ended a decade prior to the current one, another reason why I think they’ll wait a decade after the current trilogy ends to continue the saga. They’re not shortsighted enough (or they shouldn’t be) to assume people will continue to be excited for Star Wars movies just because they’re part of the saga. Getting one every other year for the next decade will harm their potential box office. Spinoffs are fine, but I think Disney recognizes they need other ideas beyond continuing the OT/Skywalker saga forever, which is why they gave RJ a separate trilogy. Gives people time to miss the characters in the current trilogy. Especially since there will be limited opportunities to include the OT characters in the future. Edited December 22, 2017 by Deja23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyGossamer Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 17 minutes ago, Lordmandeep said: Will be interesting, don't think the fanbase will be on board with a Rian Johnson Trilogy unless JJ brings them back in Episode 9. Maybe this is turning into the MCU, where if fans get angry at one film, a good part brings them back and repeat. See... I like this is Disney's other MCU now. It's an enormous universe and there gonna mine it. It's right there with WDAS, Pixar, MCU, and the live action remakes of classics for Disney now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lancelot Gold Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 13 minutes ago, redfirebird2008 said: I think it gets over 700, but something under that number is not impossible. If the film grosses 28-29% more than Rogue One the rest of the way, it finishes at $695m. This is not an impossible scenario. Needs exactly a 30% lead the rest of the way to reach $700m. Needs about 52.7% lead the rest of the way to reach your $770m prediction. Seems very difficult to me. What big December movie has gone below 3.2x? I'm sure they exist, just haven't found it yet. I'll look more when I'm home on my desktop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aabattery Posted December 22, 2017 Share Posted December 22, 2017 1 minute ago, lancelot123 said: What big December movie has gone below 3.2x? I'm sure they exist, just haven't found it yet. I'll look more when I'm home on my desktop. It's important to remember that just because it hasn't happened before doesn't mean it can't happen at all. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
