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3 minutes ago, narniadis said:

I love when comments are made about films in the past without any context.... none of the younglings understand how huge the 106 and 125m were for Goldeneye and Tomorrow Never Dies.... considering that Bond was "dead" in 1989 those grosses were huge, particularly when you consider that outside of Skyfall no JB has legitimately cracked 200m :ph34r:

Not to mention "Tomorrow Never Dies" was running against what would become an unsinkable Titanic box-office wise.

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Which was my point since the argument was made that Bond wasn't competition lmao. 

 

Titanic cannot be compared to anything in the decade before or after it. 

 

Although it is interesting if you read Gurus reports from then, Bond was of course expected to be the big Christmas film (ala LJ) and while big in its own right it got completely upstaged by another film that arguably took some of its potential gross. 

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23 minutes ago, narniadis said:

Which was my point since the argument was made that Bond wasn't competition lmao. 

 

Titanic cannot be compared to anything in the decade before or after it. 

 

Although it is interesting if you read Gurus reports from then, Bond was of course expected to be the big Christmas film (ala LJ) and while big in its own right it got completely upstaged by another film that arguably took some of its potential gross. 

 

That wasn't the point at all.

Goldeneye delivering a good total after the franchise being dormant for a while and not being particularly big in the past in the first place is nice and all. But that doesn't mean that this was some sort of big tentpole. Nor does it have anything to do with the argument that existed at that point.

 

The whole argument as I understood it, was about Titanic (and absolutely no one questioned the run of that movie or blamed the movie for this in any way) not having to face a ton of competition during its run, thus it couldn't really "slay" it. From January to early April, all the weekends of Titanic that stayed above 10m, there were exactly two movies (not counting the Everest IMAX run that lasted for years) that started during that period which finished in the top 30 of 1998: The Wedding Singer, starting in mid February and finishing 24th with 80m, and Lost in Space, which started on that very last weekend of the period, which finished 30th with 69m. That was what was being talked about. Basically nothing big of the year 1998 ran while Titanic had its run, and while Titanic may have reduced the runs of quite a few movies, it wouldn't be to that extent. After all, if Bond could deliver 100m+ while starting against Titanic, then nothing would have prevented a decent movie from at least approaching 100m way further into Titanic's run. Yet that didn't happen at all. There was nothing of even moderate size, and the first blockbuster of the year wouldn't arrive until Deep Impact started in early May.

 

Which isn't to say that there was nothing at all. The time allowed for more movies at the same time to do a bit of money, and christmas saw another two movies come up that would finish with 100m+, but all that doesn't really change that January to April was relatively empty. Which was all the entire argument was about.

 

No one said that this was unique to Titanic either. There is nothing that disparages Titanic in any way, just because someone dares to state the fact that there weren't any big movies appearing in the first third of 1998.

 

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