Easter Weekend Thread: Official Weekend Actuals: RPO $41.8M ($53.7M 4-Day), Acrimony $17.2M, BP $11.5M, ICOI $10.4M, PRU $9.4M, IOD $2.9M, GND3 $2.7M

[aabattery]

5 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:

What on earth.

That's because you making a milestone for each weekend, those are arbitrary lol

 

Every milestone is arbitrary. Doesn't mean they're not fun to follow, especially on a box office forum.

[Krissykins]

Nice drop for Love, Simon. Happy to see it comfortably over $30m already and double it’s budget, too. 

 

Good start for Ready Player One, looking forward to seeing it in IMAX 3D tonight! 

 

Shame for Tomb Raider, looks like it’ll end with $55m but saves a lot of face internationally. PRU’s bottom falls out with that drop, eek. Acrimony didn’t break out for Tyler Perry.  

[a2k]

12 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:

What on earth.

That's because you making a milestone for each weekend, those are arbitrary lol

i limited it to rounding by 50s (crossing 400, 450, 500 etc vs 320) or passing a big movie during the weekend (opposed to prior weekdays)

[aabattery]

2 minutes ago, a2knet said:

i limited it to rounding by 50s (crossing 400, 450, 500 etc vs 320) or passing a big movie during the weekend (opposed to prior weekdays)

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fastest-grossing_films

 

They all have Wikipedia entries.

 

#IsAMilestone

[IronJimbo]

11 minutes ago, aabattery said:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fastest-grossing_films

 

They all have Wikipedia entries.

 

#IsAMilestone

 

Typically being the fastest to something means you've made it there on hype alone.

 

Also anyone can make wiki entries, I don't agree with this many milestones I think it's ridiculous (No offence ak2net i like you)

 

 

Edited March 31, 2018 by IronJimbo

[aabattery]

5 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:

 

Typically being the fastest to something means you've made it there on hype alone.

 

Also anyone can make wiki entries, I don't agree with this many milestones I think it's ridiculous (No offence ak2net i like you)

 

 

 

This is pretty weak Jimbo. You can do better than this.

 

edit: Since you put in the other bit, all the stuff on the Wikipedia page is taken from https://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/domestic/all-movies/fastest/

[Joyous Legion]

That 690-700M range keeps looking more and more like Panther’s final resting point. With these numbers, 95% confidence in 680-705 or so.

[IronJimbo]

8 minutes ago, aabattery said:

 

This is pretty weak Jimbo. You can do better than this.

Alright I'm talking about front loaded films here, front loaded films rely less on quality and more on hype and franchise power. It's as though these records don't account for whether or not people actually liked the film.

 

First to 100,150,200,250... Disney would have got these records with TFA no matter the quality.

 

 

Edited March 31, 2018 by IronJimbo

[aabattery]

10 hours ago, IronJimbo said:

Alright I'm talking about front loaded films here, front loaded films rely less on quality and more on hype and franchise power. It's as though these records don't account for whether or not people actually liked the film.

 

First to 100,150,200,250... Disney would have got these records with TFA no matter the quality.

 

 

 

Which doesn't really stop it being impressive? Plus I'd say the fact that so many people liked these 'front loaded' movies was a big part of why they got to a lot of those milestones quickly.

[a2k]

7 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:

Alright I'm talking about front loaded films here, front loaded films rely less on quality and more on hype and franchise power. It's as though these records don't account for whether or not people actually liked the film.

 

First to 100,150,200,250... Disney would have got these records with TFA no matter the quality.

 

 

that's why when movies are fastest to xyz after a few weekends it's worth celebrating their milestones. be it tfa, avatar or bp.

[meriodejaneiro]

2 hours ago, Porthos said:

They tried with Gnomeo and Juliet, though. And they did do with Cinderella:

 

Gnomeo:

 

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Feb 11–13	3	$25,356,909	-	2,994	-	$8,469	$25,356,909	1
Feb 18–20	3	$19,154,010	-24.5%	3,014	+20	$6,355	$50,174,542	2
Feb 18–21	2	$25,415,717	+0.2%	3,014	+20	$8,433	$56,436,249	2
Feb 25–27	2	$13,400,130	-30.0%	3,037	+23	$4,412	$74,334,236	3
Mar 4–6	5	$7,240,315	-46.0%	2,984	-53	$2,426	$84,022,325	4
Mar 11–13	9	$3,617,255	-50.0%	2,585	-399	$1,399	$89,102,365	5
Mar 18–20	11	$2,298,908	-36.4%	1,748	-837	$1,315	$93,587,290	6
Mar 25–27	15	$1,510,003	-34.3%	1,364	-384	$1,107	$95,872,537	7
Apr 1–3	19	$429,732	-71.5%	735	-629	$585	$96,866,076	8
Apr 8–10	28	$211,676	-50.7%	284	-451	$745	$97,287,563	9
Apr 15–17	22	$407,899	+92.7%	355	+71	$1,149	$97,767,316	10
Apr 22–24	22	$335,177	-17.8%	345	-10	$972	$98,331,186	11
Apr 29–May 1	27	$293,710	-12.4%	293	-52	$1,002	$98,765,136	12
May 6–8	29	$215,287	-26.7%	250	-43	$861	$99,046,507	13
May 13–15	31	$182,256	-15.3%	194	-56	$939	$99,292,445	14
May 20–22	35	$124,871	-31.5%	158	-36	$790	$99,475,617	15
May 27–29	39	$88,604	-29.0%	111	-47	$798	$99,604,178	16
May 27–30	39	$112,689	-9.8%	111	-47	$1,015	$99,628,263	16
Jun 3–5	41	$49,681	-43.9%	85	-26	$584	$99,712,432	17
Jun 10–12	51	$22,553	-54.6%	43	-42	$524	$99,776,510	18
Jun 17–19	58	$14,043	-37.7%	23	-20	$611	$99,808,609	19

Kept in sub-360 theaters for eleven weeks.

 

Cinderella:

 

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Mar 13–15	1	$67,877,361	-	3,845	-	$17,653	$67,877,361	1
Mar 20–22	2	$34,967,659	-48.5%	3,848	+3	$9,087	$122,516,793	2
Mar 27–29	4	$17,043,491	-51.3%	3,815	-33	$4,467	$149,551,020	3
Apr 3–5	4	$10,178,750	-40.3%	3,404	-411	$2,990	$167,139,868	4
Apr 10–12	5	$7,137,814	-29.9%	3,025	-379	$2,360	$180,686,540	5
Apr 17–19	10	$4,025,469	-43.6%	2,414	-611	$1,668	$186,478,482	6
Apr 24–26	12	$2,765,566	-31.3%	2,019	-395	$1,370	$190,559,996	7
May 1–3	6	$2,745,090	-0.7%	1,411	-608	$1,945	$194,038,460	8
May 8–10	9	$1,681,560	-38.7%	1,034	-377	$1,626	$196,273,979	9
May 15–17	12	$631,608	-62.4%	641	-393	$985	$197,231,159	10
May 22–24	15	$413,952	-34.5%	356	-285	$1,163	$197,856,398	11
May 22–25	15	$556,356	-11.9%	356	-285	$1,563	$197,998,802	11
May 29–31	19	$242,908	-41.3%	249	-107	$976	$198,350,753	12
Jun 5–7	20	$303,470	+24.9%	302	+53	$1,005	$198,782,354	13
Jun 12–14	18	$261,863	-13.7%	270	-32	$970	$199,280,075	14
Jun 19–21	17	$344,535	+31.6%	275	+5	$1,253	$199,833,128	15
Jun 26–28	19	$261,264	-24.2%	235	-40	$1,112	$200,286,777	16
Jul 3–5	30	$115,169	-55.9%	175	-60	$658	$200,587,758	17
Jul 10–12	38	$59,506	-48.3%	127	-48	$469	$200,743,973	18
Jul 17–19	40	$47,983	-19.4%	104	-23	$461	$200,849,342	19
Jul 24–26	46	$29,052	-39.5%	70	-34	$415	$200,924,161	20
Jul 31–Aug 2	43	$36,624	+26.1%	64	-6	$572	$200,985,782	21
Aug 7–9	58	$17,336	-52.7%	52	-12	$333	$201,031,891	22
Aug 14–16	60	$16,406	-5.4%	45	-7	$365	$201,063,228	23
Aug 21–23	66	$11,485	-30.0%	35	-10	$328	$201,084,951	24
Aug 28–30	60	$16,460	+43.3%	34	-1	$484	$201,108,150	25
Sep 4–6	70	$13,266	-19.4%	30	-4	$442	$201,129,476	26
Sep 4–7	61	$20,005	+21.5%	30	-4	$667	$201,136,215	26
Sep 11–13	77	$8,103	-38.9%	26	-4	$312	$201,148,159	27

Kept in sub-360 theaters for even longer (17 weeks)

 

That's what I meant about keeping them in theaters for a long time.

They clearly tried (and failed) to cross 100m with Gnomeo, and tried (and succeeded) to cross 200m with Cinderella.  Just wondering if they might try again. 

But Cinderella made the 200M milestone on the 16th we, and they kept it on for 11 we more, so there must be something more important than the 200M-achievment to have kept it rolling for such a long run. 

 

That's 2015. After that, we have seen some Disney movies "missing" certain achievements (TLJ below TA, RO below TDK) all within 2-3M reach. Don't think Disney will do it anymore. They are sticking their strategy to "8-10 big budgeted movies per year" and make the most money they can through marketing and first weeks at box office, not spending money keeping high screens counts if it's not worthwhile. 

 

For example, TLJ made it to 620 this week, naturally (no fudging). I don't think it will even make it to 621. I'm sure Disney would have let it die at 619.99 instead of spending more money on keeping it in theaters for some more weeks to make it till 620M just for the fact of it. 

[IronJimbo]

If I had to list box office records in order of importance.

 

Highest gross Worldwide

Highest gross Overseas

Highest gross in country A-Z (sorted by size biggest market to smallest)

Highest gross Worldwide - (single release)

Highest gross Overseas - (single release)

Highest gross in country A-Z (sorted by size biggest market to smallest) - (single release)

Highest gross Worldwide - (adjusted inflation)

Highest gross Overseas - (adjusted inflation)

Highest gross in country A-Z (sorted by size biggest market to smallest) - (adjusted inflation)

 

// less important //

highest weekend gross week 1 to 8

fastest to X

 

// not important //

weekends at #1

days at #1

highest weekend week 9 to infinity

 

 

weekends at #1 record sucks compared to "highest weekend gross"

Edited March 31, 2018 by IronJimbo

[IronJimbo]

10 hours ago, aabattery said:

 

Which doesn't really stop it being impressive? Plus I'd say the fact that so many people liked these 'front loaded' movies was a big part of why they got to a lot of those milestones quickly.

 

10 hours ago, a2knet said:

that's why when movies are fastest to xyz after a few weekends it's worth celebrating their milestones. be it tfa, avatar or bp.

 

Don't get me wrong I agree these milestones and records are fun to look at to see the type of beast the movie was.

 

I'm just all  when someone says TFA has the most box office records when it's so damn arbitrary.

[KeepItU25071906]

@TalismanRing production+ P&A for Wonder Woman = 406 mln. Am I right?

[SchumacherFTW]

17 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:

If I had to list box office records in order of importance.

 

Highest gross Worldwide

Highest gross Overseas

Highest gross in country A-Z (sorted by size biggest market to smallest)

Highest gross Worldwide - (single release)

Highest gross Overseas - (single release)

Highest gross in country A-Z (sorted by size biggest market to smallest) - (single release)

Highest gross Worldwide - (adjusted inflation)

Highest gross Overseas - (adjusted inflation)

Highest gross in country A-Z (sorted by size biggest market to smallest) - (adjusted inflation)

 

// less important //

highest weekend gross week 1 to 8

fastest to X

 

// not important //

weekends at #1

days at #1

highest weekend week 9 to infinity

 

 

weekends at #1 record sucks compared to "highest weekend gross"

Someone grab the Tequila, there's way too much salt here. 

[IronJimbo]

1 minute ago, SchumacherFTW said:

Someone grab the Tequila, there's way too much salt here. 

Don't tell me you think fastest to X is more important than overall gross, you're going to have to explain what you mean

[TalismanRing]

9 minutes ago, KeepItU25071906 said:

@TalismanRing production+ P&A for Wonder Woman = 406 mln. Am I right?

WW's production was a reported $150m and my guess is P&A would have been about the same and maybe a bit more so closer to $300-310m

[meriodejaneiro]

1 hour ago, IronJimbo said:

how does he do it? not once but twice though

I wonder if you keep a JC blow-up doll under your bed for lonely moments (once or twice)

[meriodejaneiro]

16 minutes ago, KeepItU25071906 said:

@TalismanRing production+ P&A for Wonder Woman = 406 mln. Am I right?

 

5 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

WW's production was a reported $150m and my guess is P&A would have been about the same and maybe a bit more so closer to $300-310m

149M (prod) + 158M = 307M P&A for WW (according to deadline)

 

406M are total costs (production, advertising, worldwide video costs, participations, interes, residuals and off-the-tops).

Edited March 31, 2018 by meriodejaneiro

[TalismanRing]

30 minutes ago, meriodejaneiro said:

But Cinderella made the 200M milestone on the 16th we, and they kept it on for 11 we more, so there must be something more important than the 200M-achievment to have kept it rolling for such a long run. 

 

That's 2015. After that, we have seen some Disney movies "missing" certain achievements (TLJ below TA, RO below TDK) all within 2-3M reach. Don't think Disney will do it anymore. They are sticking their strategy to "8-10 big budgeted movies per year" and make the most money they can through marketing and first weeks at box office, not spending money keeping high screens counts if it's not worthwhile. 

 

For example, TLJ made it to 620 this week, naturally (no fudging). I don't think it will even make it to 621. I'm sure Disney would have let it die at 619.99 instead of spending more money on keeping it in theaters for some more weeks to make it till 620M just for the fact of it. 

Yeah that's more the theaters keeping it longer than Disney pushing them to.   My guess is with Cinderella it was either because of a lack of films that appeal to that segment currently in theaters or maybe because films geared towards children and families sell more concessions.  Looking at the smaller PTAs later in the run we also don't know how many showings the film was getting either.  It could have just been playing a matinee and doing solid business catering to that demo.

 

Edited March 31, 2018 by TalismanRing