Weekend Thread: Rampage 34.5M, AQP 32.6M, ToD 19M, RPO 11.2M, Blockers 10.2M

[Porthos]

The theater count page for BOM is currently down, perhaps due to Sherlock Gnomes and a couple of other movies not getting their TCs in on time.

 

Here is what it was on Thur:

 

On 4/12/2018 at 2:23 PM, Porthos said:

TC:

 

> NEW RELEASES
1	-	Rampage (2018)	Warner Bros. (New Line)	4,101	-	-	-	-	-	-	1
4	-	Truth or Dare	Universal	3,029	-	-	-	-	-	-	1
9	-	Sgt. Stubby: An American Hero	Fun Academy	1,685	-	-	-	-	-	-	1
14	19	Beirut	Bleecker Street	755	-	-	-	-	-	-	1
24	-	Mercury	Prime Media Pictures	87	-	-	-	-	-	-	1
43	-	The Rider	Sony Classics	3	-	-	-	-	-	-	1
44	-	Quai des Orfevres (2018 Re-issue)	Rialto	1	-	-	-	-	-	-	1
> EXPANDING
3	3	Blockers	Universal	3,418	+39	+1.2%	-	-	-	-	2
7	20	Isle Of Dogs	Fox Searchlight	1,930	+1,376	+248.4%	-	-	-	-	4
10	12	Chappaquiddick	Entertainment Studios	1,648	+88	+5.6%	-	-	-	-	2
19	37	Finding Your Feet	Roadside Attractions	277	+220	+386.0%	-	-	-	-	3
31	53	Final Portrait	Sony Classics	32	+11	+52.4%	-	-	-	-	4
35	61	Forever My Girl	Roadside Attractions	19	+7	+58.3%	-	-	-	-	13
37	80	Lean on Pete	A24	18	+14	+350.0%	-	-	-	-	2
42	83	The Last Movie Star	A24	5	+2	+66.7%	-	-	-	-	3
> NO CHANGE
8	9	The Miracle Season	Mirror/LD	1,707	-	-	-	-	-	-	2
29	44	I, Tonya	Neon	38	-	-	-	-	-	-	19
30	47	Pandas	Warner Bros.	33	-	-	-	-	-	-	2
> DECLINING
2	1	Ready Player One	Warner Bros.	3,661	-573	-13.5%	-	-	-	-	3
5	4	I Can Only Imagine	Roadside Attractions	2,563	-331	-11.4%	-	-	-	-	5
6	5	Black Panther	Buena Vista	2,180	-567	-20.6%	-	-	-	-	9
11	7	Pacific Rim Uprising	Universal	1,531	-1,096	-41.7%	-	-	-	-	4
12	8	Tyler Perry's Acrimony	Lionsgate	1,332	-674	-33.6%	-	-	-	-	3
13	10	A Wrinkle in Time	Buena Vista	1,112	-589	-34.6%	-	-	-	-	6
15	15	Paul, Apostle of Christ	Sony / Columbia	581	-681	-54.0%	-	-	-	-	4
16	16	Peter Rabbit	Sony / Columbia	519	-508	-49.5%	-	-	-	-	10
17	11	Tomb Raider	Warner Bros.	502	-1,171	-70.0%	-	-	-	-	5
18	17	Game Night	Warner Bros. (New Line)	356	-448	-55.7%	-	-	-	-	8
20	23	The Leisure Seeker	Sony Classics	276	-77	-21.8%	-	-	-	-	12
21	14	God's Not Dead: A Light in Darkness	Pure Flix	193	-1,184	-86.0%	-	-	-	-	3
22	22	Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle	Sony / Columbia	183	-295	-61.7%	-	-	-	-	17
23	28	Death Wish (2018)	MGM	111	-36	-24.5%	-	-	-	-	7
25	32	Coco	Buena Vista	85	-14	-14.1%	-	-	-	-	21
26	24	Strangers: Prey at Night	Aviron	61	-188	-75.5%	-	-	-	-	6
27	27	Unsane	Bleecker Street	42	-121	-74.2%	-	-	-	-	4
28	42	Foxtrot	Sony Classics	38	-7	-15.6%	-	-	-	-	7
32	36	Star Wars: The Last Jedi	Buena Vista	28	-33	-54.1%	-	-	-	-	18
33	51	Film Stars Don't Die in Liverpool	Sony Classics	24	-1	-4.0%	-	-	-	-	16
34	43	A Fantastic Woman	Sony Classics	23	-15	-39.5%	-	-	-	-	11
36	41	Call Me by Your Name	Sony Classics	18	-32	-64.0%	-	-	-	-	21
38	55	The Party (2017)	Roadside Attractions	14	-6	-30.0%	-	-	-	-	9
39	46	Loveless (2018)	Sony Classics	12	-23	-65.7%	-	-	-	-	9
40	60	Hostiles	Entertainment Studios	7	-6	-46.2%	-	-	-	-	17
41	65	The Hurricane Heist	Entertainment Studios	7	-1	-12.5%	-	-	-	-	6

 

[MovieMan89]

Disney needs to get an expansion for BP on the 4/27 weekend. I'm positive the potential to pick up IW sell out spillovers is huge for it. 

[Mojoguy]

No way is AQP going to have a 50% increase on Sat after an already boosted Friday that fell on a Friday 13th.

Deadline is being dumb again.

People are being incredibly bias against Rampage for some reason.

[harrycaul]

1 minute ago, MovieMan89 said:

Disney needs to get an expansion for BP on the 4/27 weekend. I'm positive the potential to pick up IW sell out spillovers is huge for it. 

But is it notably more likely for BP than for say Rampage to pick up spillover?  As in, are there that many people who will just cancel movie night unless they can have Black Panther as their second choice? If not, where's the advantage in this to anyone other than Disney?

[Porthos]

3 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

Disney needs to get an expansion for BP on the 4/27 weekend. I'm positive the potential to pick up IW sell out spillovers is huge for it. 

Something something "natural run of movie" something something.

(Love ya, MM89, but you're setting yourself up for that one )

[Mojoguy]

But is it notably more likely for BP than for say Rampage to pick up spillover? As in, are there that many people who will just cancel movie night unless they can have Black Panther as their second choice? If not, where's the advantage in this to anyone other than Disney?

I imagine its the Drive Thru theaters deciding what to double feature, and I think everyone that plans to see IW already saw BP.

[MovieMan89]

Just now, harrycaul said:

But is it notably more likely for BP than for say Rampage to pick up spillover?  As in, are there that many people who will just cancel movie night unless they can have Black Panther as their second choice? If not, where's the advantage in this to anyone other than Disney?

Of course it's more likely the people interested in IW might be interested in seeing BP more than Rampage. Whether that be a repeat time or casuals getting caught up in the IW hype who still haven't seen BP. We've never had a case where an event film has still been relevant at the box office when the next event film in the franchise releases. It could have a very positive effect on BP as everyone is swept up in Marvel madness that weekend. 

[MovieMan89]

9 minutes ago, Porthos said:

Something something "natural run of movie" something something.

(Love ya, MM89, but you're setting yourself up for that one )

Hey, don't expand it then. Just saying if the demand for it that weekend is greater than what the TC count is, Disney will have been dumb not to have done it. And what's unnatural about audience demand? 

 

Though quite honestly, BP will still be in so many theaters when IW opens, an expansion probably isn't necessary. Just holding on to what  it has. 

Edited April 14, 2018 by MovieMan89

[Boxofficerules]

36 minutes ago, Krissykins said:

What??

 

Your post makes no sense whatsoever. 

 

Profit is based on gross and budget. 

 

If you think $3.5m budgeted Truth or Dare making 10 times it’s budget ($35m) won’t see any profit, then you’re mad. 

Well can you explain how IT didn’t make any money, it made $327 million on a $35 million budget? I’m assuming it made no money as I’ve been reading a lot recently how R rated horror movies don’t make money. Don’t Breathe made $89 million on a $9 million budget but apperently that didn’t make money, nor The Conjuring monies or Annabelle etc. These where all rated R andR rated horror films don’t make money as I have been told over and over and over and over again. So if those didn’t make money, I don’t understand how Truth Or Dare made money.

[baumer]

AQP might increase by 10-15% today.

[Barnack]

6 minutes ago, Boxofficerules said:

I’m assuming it made no money as I’ve been reading a lot recently how R rated horror movies don’t make money.

Where are you reading that ?

 

That sound like a strawman to me, who just even a little bit serious is saying that when in 2017 we just got IT and Get out in the top most profitable movie list + Annabelle Creation and Conjuring 2 + Don't Breathe the year just before ?

 

 

[Porthos]

18 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

Hey, don't expand it then. Just saying if the demand for it that weekend is greater than what the TC count is, Disney will have been dumb not to have done it. And what's unnatural about audience demand? 

 

Though quite honestly, BP will still be in so many theaters when IW opens, an expansion probably isn't necessary. Just holding on to what  it has. 

Since I don't believe in "natural run of movies" whatever BP does will be fine by me.

[Boxofficerules]

Just now, Barnack said:

Where are you reading that ?

 

That sound like a strawman to me, who just even a little bit serious is saying that when in 2017 we just got IT and Get out in the top most profitable movie list + Annabelle Creation and Conjuring 2 + Don't Breathe the year just before ?

 

 

The Platinum Dunnes Guys said it awhile ago.

”This isn’t something horror fans are going to want to hear but R rated horror films don’t make the kind of money that The Conjuring and Paranormal Activity made” they tweeted before deleting it after being pointed out that both those movies where rated R. Jason Blum also did a recent interview saying R rated horror films with young cast members don’t make money, so It, Evil Dead and Don’t Breathe had young cast members in it and clearly didn’t make money.

[Barnack]

Well the first one obviously does not sound serious at all, the second one is obviously serious and it is not the same statement at all, he is giving in a certain context it is harder to go with the R not that R-rated horror do not make money, he himself is cashing on it all the time.

 

Blum is probably right, if you cast kids young enough and not make it feel like a high school teens movie or if it is set in the era when adults were that age like It, it is not an issue.

 

But if you have a bunch of teenagers playing truth or dare, that a very hard concept to sell to an adult I would imagine.

Edited April 14, 2018 by Barnack

[Boxofficerules]

6 minutes ago, Barnack said:

Well the first one obviously does not sound serious at all, the second one is obviously serious and it is not the same statement at all, he is giving in a certain context it is harder to go with the R not that R-rated horror do not make money, he himself is cashing on it all the time.

 

Blum is probably right, if you cast kids young enough and not make it feel like a high school teens movie or if it is set in the era when adults were that age like It, it is not an issue.

 

But if you have a bunch of teenagers playing truth or dare, that a very hard concept to sell to an adult I would imagine.

And what will the excuse be when Halloween becomes PG-13.

[Avatree]

1 hour ago, Boxofficerules said:

Well can you explain how IT didn’t make any money, it made $327 million on a $35 million budget? I’m assuming it made no money as I’ve been reading a lot recently how R rated horror movies don’t make money. Don’t Breathe made $89 million on a $9 million budget but apperently that didn’t make money, nor The Conjuring monies or Annabelle etc. These where all rated R andR rated horror films don’t make money as I have been told over and over and over and over again. So if those didn’t make money, I don’t understand how Truth Or Dare made money.

Not sure if you are being serious or not. It was one of the most profitable films of last year.

[MovieMan89]

37 minutes ago, Boxofficerules said:

And what will the excuse be when Halloween becomes PG-13.

Halloween is a slasher horror series. It's almost impossible to justify PG-13 for that subgenre. Supernatural horror/thriller is entirely different. You can easily get away with PG-13 there. 

[The Gotham Bank]

3 hours ago, Mojoguy said:

It's pretty ridiculous that some people are giving AQP the weekend win already.

A few posts up you said Rampage will "win the weekend for sure", so you did the same thing but with Rampage.

[a2k]

13 hours ago, the beast said:

He also said around $11m for AQP for friday so what do you project with that friday?

Guessing 10.5 + 14.25 + 9.25 = 34

[Cookson]

My theater is selling Rampage tickets pretty good tonight.