Daxtreme Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 29 minutes ago, FilmBuff said: Fycking Semantics. You know what I meant. AIW still should’ve beaten BP imo considering the hype and 10 year buildup of this ‘event’ film. Even if it was a small margin. AIW should’ve outgrossed BP domestically. Obviously, DP2 contributed to it not passing BP. If Black Panther had grossed like 400M, then yes, AIW should have outgrossed Black Panther. BP is now the 3rd highest domestic grosser in history. The game has changed. No movie "should have" outgrossed the 3rd highest dom grosser in history. It can't be considered the bar for success of any movie, ever. That's completely ridiculous. The fact both movies will make it around 700M within 3 months of each other is just dumb. And anyway, AIW's overseas total is higher than Black Panther's worldwide total... so yes, it's beating that movie quite comfortably, don't worry! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry713 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) It's silly to measure AIW against BP when they both performed well above prerelease expectations and if BP didn't exist there would be no arbitrary 700m dom goal for AIW to begin with. The films SHOULD do nothing more than what they actually did. There's no exact measure of how a solo or an event or a crossover Marvel film should perform. There are so many circumstances to consider when evaluating why a film made as much as it did. It seems pretty pointless to care about a 20m difference in one country. Edited June 13, 2018 by harry713 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LonePirate Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Here’s a thought: perhaps moviegoers agreed with critics and thought BP was a better film than AIW and was more deserving of their money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevermore Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, LonePirate said: Here’s a thought: perhaps moviegoers agreed with critics and thought BP was a better film than AIW and was more deserving of their money. Doubt it. BP just captured a zeitgeist. Being a big budget marvel movie set in Africa with an all black cast brought in a significant portion of the black community in America. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebeccas Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 9 minutes ago, LonePirate said: Here’s a thought: perhaps moviegoers agreed with critics and thought BP was a better film than AIW and was more deserving of their money. This is a dumb argument. One is a fairly stand-alone movie, the other is like a sequel to 80 films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LonePirate Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Just now, nevermore said: Doubt it. BP just captured a zeitgeist. Being a big budget marvel movie set in Africa with an all black cast brought in a significant portion of the black community in America. BP enticed more moviegoers to buy tickets than AIW, correct? Does it matter what race the moviegoers are? Or do black moviegoers count less than other moviegoers? Do you think they should be counted less, perhaps only 3/5ths as much as a non-black moviegoer? 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraceRandolph Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 BP made more cause it was the first of its kind and also had no competion for months. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebeccas Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 1 minute ago, LonePirate said: BP enticed more moviegoers to buy tickets than AIW, correct? Does it matter what race the moviegoers are? Or do black moviegoers count less than other moviegoers? Do you think they should be counted less, perhaps only 3/5ths as much as a non-black moviegoer? wtf is wrong with you............ 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) 55 minutes ago, FilmBuff said: Fycking Semantics. You know what I meant. AIW still should’ve beaten BP imo considering the hype and 10 year buildup of this ‘event’ film. Even if it was a small margin. AIW should’ve outgrossed BP domestically. Obviously, DP2 contributed to it not passing BP. infinity war didn't have that king's dead future verse. it had no chance. Edited June 13, 2018 by CoolioD1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LonePirate Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Just now, Rebeccas said: wtf is wrong with you............ You do not like it when racists are called out for their racism? Hmmm.... 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevermore Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, LonePirate said: BP enticed more moviegoers to buy tickets than AIW, correct? Does it matter what race the moviegoers are? Or do black moviegoers count less than other moviegoers? Do you think they should be counted less, perhaps only 3/5ths as much as a non-black moviegoer? Yeah it did, because the current political climate in America made BP more relevant movie than AIW. As for the rest of your comment, I'm not even gonna bother. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraceRandolph Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, LonePirate said: BP enticed more moviegoers to buy tickets than AIW, correct? Does it matter what race the moviegoers are? Or do black moviegoers count less than other moviegoers? Do you think they should be counted less, perhaps only 3/5ths as much as a non-black moviegoer? No but it explains WHY BP outgrossed IW. They were tapping into an unexplored market. This is obvious when looking at the OS gross where black people aren’t a huge part of the population - hence why IW OS gross > BPs WW gross. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LonePirate Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 1 minute ago, nevermore said: Yeah it did, because the current political climate in America made BP more relevant movie than AIW. As for the rest of your comment, I'm not even gonna bother. Good idea. You should run far away from the racist comments you posted about black moviegoers. The admins/mods should delete your bigoted post. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nova Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, LonePirate said: Good idea. You should run far away from the racist comments you posted about black moviegoers. The admins/mods should delete your bigoted post. How exactly where @nevermorecomments racists? Nothing they said was a lie. Black Panther was a movie set in Africa, correct? It was also a movie that had a predominantly black cast, correct? And considering the fact that the black community hasn't ever had a CBM represent them the way Black Panther did, they came out in droves to support the movie. Stating this isn't racist. The hell. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrathOfHan Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 23 minutes ago, LonePirate said: Here’s a thought: perhaps moviegoers agreed with critics and thought BP was a better film than AIW and was more deserving of their money. I mean, they're going to finish within 20-25M of each other. That only translates to like 2M tickets. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevermore Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 6 minutes ago, LonePirate said: Good idea. You should run far away from the racist comments you posted about black moviegoers. The admins/mods should delete your bigoted post. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Nova said: How exactly where @nevermorecomments racists? Nothing they said was a lie. Black Panther was a movie set in Africa, correct? It was also a movie that had a predominantly black cast, correct? And considering the fact that the black community hasn't ever had a CBM represent them the way Black Panther did, they came out in droves to support the movie. Stating this isn't racist. The hell. By that leaky logic all those think pieces talking about how Wonder Woman tapped into a female audience starving for women leads in SH films were sexist. Edited June 13, 2018 by TalismanRing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebeccas Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 15 minutes ago, LonePirate said: You do not like it when racists are called out for their racism? Hmmm.... time to step away from the laptop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GraceRandolph Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, Nova said: How exactly where @nevermorecomments racists? Nothing they said was a lie. Black Panther was a movie set in Africa, correct? It was also a movie that had a predominantly black cast, correct? And considering the fact that the black community hasn't ever had a CBM represent them the way Black Panther did, they came out in droves to support the movie. Stating this isn't racist. The hell. Stating that a movie is targeted at a certain audience is bigoted. “Don’t say Book club was targeted at older women - that’s ageist and sexist!” 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aabattery Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Moderation: Time to move back to talking about the numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
