Weekend Thread | Hotel 3 $44.1 Skyscraper 25.4, Ant Man’s size does matter with $28.8M

[sfran43]

 

[TalismanRing]

47 minutes ago, Barnack said:

I am not sure why it would be an exception to the rules, 22 Jump Street, Amazing Spider Man 2 both shown quite a difference between rough estimate and reality.

 

Could have lost money obviously, Amazing Spider Man 2 got close to loose money with a 308.2m budget + participation, but was a bit weaker dbo and they didn't control the merchandise sales like WB.

Wasn't that a $308.2m gross budget?  The purported net budget of JL was $300m.     There's a difference of about $50m there for net

 

Edited July 16, 2018 by TalismanRing

[SteveJaros]

2 hours ago, Firepower said:

That was one of the dumbest quotes I've seen in years, wow...

No, it's actually far smarter than your response.  Defining "flop" strictly in terms of studio profits/losses is ... dumbed down thinking. 

[TalismanRing]

2 hours ago, JohnnyGossamer said:

Ultron isn't far and away the highest grossing flick DOM of all-time and a $2.07B earner WW. That's a poor comparison.

The difference is Ultron went down from  Avengers' $1.5b  (7.5% WW with far worse exchange rates)  and not down from ~ $2.045b but rather up to.

 

But a 35% drop WW from a mega blockbuster is not unique and happened  before with the same franchise with Phantom Menace -> Clones.  Even the drop from ESB from SW was 27% WW.

[Barnack]

9 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

Wasn't that a $308.2m gross budget?  The purported net budget of JL was $300m.     There's a difference of at least $50m there.

Do not know the gross, net was around $264m and participation was around $44m for an effective 308m budget.

[TalismanRing]

1 minute ago, Barnack said:

Do not know the gross, net was around $264m and participation was around $44m for an effective 308m budget.

But the purported $300m net budget of JL does not include participation so again comparing apples to oranges.

[Barnack]

14 minutes ago, SteveJaros said:

No, it's actually far smarter than your response.  Defining "flop" strictly in terms of studio profits/losses is ... dumbed down thinking. 

Hype also come into signification, a Star Wars that loose or make 1m dollar is a flop, not an original movie. 

 

But it still all come down to a relation be being how close to the worst case scenario for the movie profitability.

[JohnnyGossamer]

27 minutes ago, sfran43 said:

 

This was a wild, wacky good time that riffed on Idiocracy with some Gilliam madness tossed in. Glad to see it snagged a few bucks this weekend.

[Barnack]

1 minute ago, TalismanRing said:

But the purported $300m net budget of JL does not include participation so again comparing apples to oranges.

Exactly, it depend on the participation structure (at CB-0, gross or at box office benchmark), that deadline does not know.

 

Maybe the movie was at $375m when reaching $650m after the Snyders and other big producer got point, the big directors, big writers, Affleck and others getting 20% of the revenues in bonus with the movie loosing $105m before merchandise, maybe everyone was on a CB-0 pool and got nothing before it reached profitability and stayed relatively on the cheaper side at 300m and lost only $30m before merchandise if the movie helped them, it can play a lot.

[a2k]

HT1/2 did not have previews and were in Sept. So HT3 had a strong Fri and unlike HT1/2 did not have a 31-34% Sun drop due to summer. It should still leg it to a healthy 140+ dom.

 

OW Dom Multi:

HT1 42.52 148.31 3.49x

HT2 48.46 169.70 3.50x

HT3 44.07 140.14 3.18x

 

According to Mojo HT1's prod budget was 85 and the sequels HT2/3 are slightly lower at 80.

 

 

Edited July 16, 2018 by a2k

[Valonqar]

Hopefully AM&TW goes up with actual number. 

[sfran43]

 

[sfran43]

 

[sfran43]

I'm glad it went up with actuals!

Edited July 16, 2018 by sfran43

[sfran43]

 

[a2k]

O8 should be top 3 WB dom this year after FB2/AQM.

Edited July 16, 2018 by a2k

[grey ghost]

3 hours ago, grey ghost said:

Can someone list other movies that made more than 3.6x their budget that would widely be considered a disappointment or flop?

 

Please name at least three.

 

 

Still waiting for an answer to this... 

[YM!]

7 minutes ago, sfran43 said:

I'm glad it went up with actuals!

That’s even better for my Survivor

[Valonqar]

WENT UP! 

[JohnnyGossamer]

AMatW comes in just hair above actuals. Now, we'll see if it can find some late legs a la AM and SMH and cross $200M+ DOM.