dudalb Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 6 minutes ago, ThomasNicole said: I don’t trust studio executives to tell me if a movie is good or not If it’s on Cannes in competition it probably have strong artistic value, even if it’s divisive Now Coppola have to pray he actually won, it would make it easier for him to sell the distribution rights The studios heads are not taking about if it good or not, they are saying it will be a hard sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderByte Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 Apples probably the only one who could afford a hit like that TBH 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThomasNicole Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 21 minutes ago, dudalb said: The studios heads are not taking about if it good or not, they are saying it will be a hard sell. Nah, the THR article yesterday had head executives saying the movie is awful, quality-wise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchumacherFTW Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 5 minutes ago, ThomasNicole said: Nah, the THR article yesterday had head executives saying the movie is awful, quality-wise Yes, but these are the kinds of people that tried to tell the world Titanic was doomed back in early 97. Execs in the movie industry don't seem to actually know how to gauge the quality of their own product. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDude391 Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 I feel like a savvy marketing team and studio willing to take a risk COULD sell this (lean into the mystery, make it a legendary event, "an undefinable next step of cinema you need to see to believe", etc.) and trick people into seeing it opening weekend who'd otherwise never see it. Y'know how studios got audiences in the 70s to see weird foreign/art films? Deceptive (and alluring...sometimes for sex appeal lol) marketing. Sure you might get a steep 2nd weekend drop but at least people would see it and talk about it vs throwing in the tower and not even trying. Hyping it up, getting a decent opening and buzz (even with a steep 2nd weekend drop) could garner more theatrical $ than a foregone "it'll flop" mentality (self fulfilling prophecy) and they just dump it with no fanfare. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 42 minutes ago, SchumacherFTW said: Yes, but these are the kinds of people that tried to tell the world Titanic was doomed back in early 97. Execs in the movie industry don't seem to actually know how to gauge the quality of their own product. The negative stuff on Titanic was before the movie was shown to anyone. That's not the case with Coppola's movie. The biggest studios in the western world saw the movie on a giant IMAX screen and they don't think the movie is good enough to invest their money into a market & distribution budget. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 (edited) Honestly I'm pretty suspicious of the timing with those writeups yesterday. The trades all knew the movie was gunning for Cannes at least if they didn't already know the movie had been selected for an in competition screening (and I'm pretty doubtful of that). They also knew it would be rage bait for scandal happy Film Twitter (and BOT). It's all part of the movie's promotional campaign as the "cool, controversial Coppola opus" Edited April 9 by AniNate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
excel1 Posted April 9 Share Posted April 9 2 hours ago, dudalb said: Maybe the studio heads should remember what happned to Jack Woltz, head of Woltz Pictures, in the God Father. Coppola does insist on hearing bad news immediately... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudalb Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 (edited) 5 hours ago, redfirebird2008 said: The negative stuff on Titanic was before the movie was shown to anyone. That's not the case with Coppola's movie. The biggest studios in the western world saw the movie on a giant IMAX screen and they don't think the movie is good enough to invest their money into a market & distribution budget. Most of the negative stories about Titanic were not about that the film was bad, but about how trouble the production was, and how it had gone way way overbudget. Which was true. But remain pretty skeptical of the artistic taste of many in the film industry nowdays. TOo many of them have no real love of film, they just see it as product. And that is what is different between now and the golden age of the Studio system For all there many faults..and they had many..the Mayers, the Warners, the Zanuck, the Selznkics, lover movies and being in the movie business. That is not true of many in the businesss today. Edited April 10 by dudalb 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudalb Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 4 hours ago, excel1 said: Coppola does insist on hearing bad news immediately... I almost quoted that line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpiderByte Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 I guess we'll have to wait for Cannes for actual reviews to see if it works. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cmasterclay Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 I think Tree of Life is an apt comparison for this, not in terms of the content of the film but in terms of everything else - divisive, non-commercial film from a legendary director making his huge comeback with a Cannes debut. You know that a few people are certainly going to consider this an all time masterpiece, and a few people will find it a total debacle, but history I think ultimately ends up kind to it like it has been kind to Tree of Life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budice Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Coppola's Wife passed away 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Posted April 12 Share Posted April 12 Absolutely devastating timing. Her work on Hearts of Darkness is impeccable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudalb Posted April 13 Share Posted April 13 Really sad. She was a talented documentary filmmaker in her own right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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cinema pal Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 (edited) Did they use Volume after all or did they drop it? Heard there were problems Edited April 30 by cinema pal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firepower Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 I hope they dropped it, Volume is garbage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
interiorgatordecorator Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 In his statement to VF, Coppola includes a long list of names that influenced the creation of “Megalopolis”: “I wouldn’t have been able to make it without standing as I do on the shoulders of G.B. Shaw, Voltaire, Rousseau, Bentham, Mill, Dickens, Emerson, Thoreau, Fuller, Fournier, Morris, Carlyle, Ruskin, Butler, and Wells all rolled into one; with Euripides, Thomas More, Moliere, Pirandello, Shakespeare, Beaumarchais, Swift, Kubrick, Murnau, Goethe, Plato, Aeschylus, Spinoza, Durrell, Ibsen, Abel Gance, Fellini, Visconti, Bergman, Bergson, Hesse, Hitchcock, Kurosawa, Cao Xueqin, Mizoguchi, Tolstoy, McCullough, Moses, and the prophets all thrown in.” Will admit to letting myself get excited Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...