The Boy and the Heron | Hayao Miyazaki | Studio Ghibli | GKIDS | NA Debut at TIFF | WINNER OF THE OSCAR FOR BEST ANIMATED FEATURE

[The Panda]

2 hours ago, ZeroHour said:

The Academy does not care about the working conditions for ATSV. Ya’ll are way overestimating these people. If Heron wins, it won’t be because of any of that. 

i mean Heron should win because it’s actually a complete movie and easily the better film point blank

[ThomasNicole]

 
 

 

[Issac Newton]

Thomas was quick. (⁠゜⁠o⁠゜⁠;

Edited December 10, 2023 by Issac Newton

[Issac Newton]

 

 

[cannastop]

2 hours ago, The Panda said:

i mean Heron should win because it’s actually a complete movie and easily the better film point blank

I haven't seen the second Spider-Verse but I'd say The Boy and the Heron basically smokes everything animation-wise for a long while.

[harrisonisdead]

4 minutes ago, Issac Newton said:

 

 

Interestingly, Spider-Verse didn't even get runner-up here (Robot Dreams was second place).

[cannastop]

Just now, harrisonisdead said:

Interestingly, Spider-Verse didn't even get runner-up here (Robot Dreams was second place).

LAFCA has pretty interesting taste in cartoons.

[titanic2187]

it is not uncommon to see both New York and LA to agree on their best animation. Happened four times in the past decade but this is still a major victory for heron to up against spiderverse.

 

If Miyazaki can attend some events at here in NA especially in the later stage of the campaign, then the momentum is perfect. 

[MovieMan89]

This movie is glorious. Totally glorious. To say it satisfied me as a Miyazaki film infinitely more than The Wind Rises is a huge understatement.

Visually and audial are on a whole other level here. This is both Ghibli and Miyazaki’s magnum opus from a visual standpoint, and that’s one of the most daunting tasks this could have ever possibly achieved. Truly breathtaking and it does feel like a culmination of everything Miyazaki has learned as an animator over decades (visually).  
 

Score is mystical, foreboding, and enchanting. Give Hisaishi the damn Oscar, I’m not remotely joking. But it is a total joke if it’s not a lock for a nom there. 
 

The narrative was nowhere near as hard to comprehend as I was expecting. Yes, it’s surreal and obtuse, but the general vibe and themes being attempted here are pretty easily understood to me, so that saves it from being messy for me.
 

And I always know I need multiple viewings for Miyazaki to get my full opinion on the narrative. It might also be knowing to expect his most abstract movie ahead of time. I can probably see how the Japanese audience who had no info at all going in could have been caught off guard.

 

Love these very strong audience metrics DOM so far, RT audience score is spectacular. How wild if DOM is the audience that is most receptive to it, but I hope so for the legs. Early ranking would be slightly above Mononoke and slightly outside his masterpiece trio (Spirited, Howl’s, and Totoro) for me. Dont think it will go up on repeats, but you never know and the fact it gets anywhere near those for me is the most I could have ever expected. He’s 82, what?!?!
 

Oh, and it’s winning that animation Oscar unless way too many members decide to not watch it at all. This could totally get into BP with the right awareness with the Academy, come on Ghibli get on that awards season grind! 

 

[Gavin Feng]

5 hours ago, titanic2187 said:

it is not uncommon to see both New York and LA to agree on their best animation. Happened four times in the past decade but this is still a major victory for heron to up against spiderverse.

 

If Miyazaki can attend some events at here in NA especially in the later stage of the campaign, then the momentum is perfect. 

 

Miyazaki will stay in Japan and let all of you guys in town keep admiring him.

[AniNate]

I don't think Hayao has ever been much for the PR circuit. Not sure he even gives that many interviews in Japan.

[cannastop]

1 minute ago, AniNate said:

I don't think Hayao has ever been much for the PR circuit. Not sure he even gives that many interviews in Japan.

He has had some documentaries made of him though. He's not an overly friendly person though.

[Danhjpn]

Is there any Film Award left? 

[Issac Newton]

6 minutes ago, Danhjpn said:

Is there any Film Award left? 

St. Louis, Las Vegas, Chicago, Golden Globes....

[Grebacio]

23 minutes ago, Issac Newton said:

St. Louis, Las Vegas, Chicago, Golden Globes....

BAFTA, Critics Choice, (and Annie Awards for animation)

[cannastop]

33 minutes ago, Danhjpn said:

Is there any Film Award left? 

 

27 minutes ago, Issac Newton said:

St. Louis, Las Vegas, Chicago, Golden Globes....

National Society of Film Critics too. They might have The Boy and the Heron in the top 3 movies of the year.

[Danhjpn]

43 minutes ago, cannastop said:

 

National Society of Film Critics too. They might have The Boy and the Heron in the top 3 movies of the year.

Ok, do you know when all of these events happen? How much is the chance for this film to win any of them? 

[Issac Newton]

 

 

[Issac Newton]

 

Seems like only 2 animations manage into enter BFI's "SIGHT AND SOUND" Magazine

 

Spoiler

1. Killers of the Flower Moon

2. The Zone of Interest

3. Past Lives

4. Poor Things

5. Oppenheimer

6. Barbie

7. Passages

8. Anatomy of a Fall

9. Do Not Expect Too Much from the End of the World

10. May December

11. Close Your Eyes

12. All of Us Strangers

13. Tár

14. Asteroid City

15. Saint Omer

16. Fallen Leaves

17. Totem

18. Last Summer

19. How to Have Sex

20. Return to Seoul

21. Evil Does Not Exit

22. La Chimera

23. Afire

24. Inside the Yellow Cocoon Shell

25. The Boy and the Heron

26. Rotting in the Sun

27. The Fabelmans

28. The Delinquents

29. Beau Is Afraid

30. The Beast

31. Talk to Me

32. Music

33. Hit Man

34. The Taste of Things

35. One Fine Morning

36. Infinity Pool

37. The Human Surge 3

38. Trenque Lauquen

39. Samsara

40. Suzume

41. Rye Lane

42. Reality

43. Priscilla

44. A Prince

45. Our Body

46. Menus-Plaisirs - Les Troisgros

47. The Killer

48. The Holdovers

49. Earth Mama

50. All Dirt Roads Taste of Salt

[Valencia]

7 hours ago, Danhjpn said:

Ok, do you know when all of these events happen? How much is the chance for this film to win any of them? 

St. Louis, Las Vegas, Chicago are regional small level stuff those don’t matter.

 

National Society of Film Critics does not have a animation category, or do nominations, or runner-ups, etc. They just announce winners. Heron wouldn’t get anything there. Anatomy of a Fall or Zone of Interest will win best Foreign Film. And winning any of the other categories of Best film, director, or screenplay doesn’t make any sense as a result. It competing with live action movies there that they will always prefer, and honoring Scorsese’s possible last movie (KOTFM) is more important to them than Miyazaki’s possible last movie.

 

Golden Globes is more like a casual popularity contest. This would be the first time Miyazaki is even nominated and it’s probably only cause it came out in December. High brow stuff like this doesn’t appeal there.

 

BAFTA is probably an easy win for Spiderverse. Empire Magazine had Spiderverse as their #5 movie of the year, and two time BAFTA winner Daniel Kaluuya (British) is part of the voice cast for that movie, and one of the more prominent characters. Three time BAFTA nominee Daniel Pemberton (British) also wrote the score. I don’t see Heron winning there at all.

 

Annie Awards Spiderverse will win all the technical rewards, and probably the best animated feature award. Heron will win best director, storyboarding, writing, and best independent film. They have a best overseas animation, and best animation overall category.

Heron can win critics choice for best animated feature. Will it? Don’t know. But it’s more likely than anywhere else.

 

That’s about how it will shake out.

 

Edited December 11, 2023 by Valencia