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Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania | February 17, 2023 | Competing with Eternals on RT, Competing with BvS on box office legs

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1 hour ago, Factcheck said:

They have already lost some audience, and more will lose interest in MCU if they delay Avengers 5 by one year. In key markets like South Korea, they are losing audiences because people don't want to watch another 10+ movies and 15+ shows to get to the Avengers movies.

The real problem are the shitty show 

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They have not lost audience and the shows are mostly well received and have introduced fan favourites 

 

Some of tou are completely incapable of separating your wishful thinking from reality. If you honestly believe Marvel wont make every movie audiebce friendly through exposition you are out of touch.

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50 minutes ago, Mr Terrific said:

GA, or analysis of GA, has been schizophrenic on these movies. 
After AOU, “Oh gosh, it’s too complicated.”

After IW and EG, “Of course, MCU has advantage of epic saga to pull people in.”

 

Some people wanted to jump off after ebdgame and now they are desperate to project their fatigue through "general audience" and they dont have the spine to admit its purr bias. The reality is that most mcu movies without china will gross 700-900 million, numbers that most blockbusters would kill for. Unless you think Avatar is the norm and even that wont outgross ebdgame 

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10 minutes ago, Jeight said:

If you honestly believe Marvel wont make every movie audiebce friendly through exposition you are out of touch.

Because the GA surely loved Eternals right?

 

I do agree that some of the predictions of utter collapse are ridiculous but I do feel we’re in the diminishing returns era. Yes, the MCU is still very popular and with a new phase, especially once after the Infinity Saga acting as a closer for some, they’re bound to lose some membersThis, of course doesn’t mean every project is doomed or every project will underperform, but some projects may not be as big as hoped. Like it act more so as Phase 2 rather than 3 for this phase but if it sticks the landing, 6 could be be a swing upwards but not as big as 3 though.

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10 hours ago, interiorgatordecorator said:

is the whole "lost time-didnt see child grow up" theme lifted from the original BP2 script?

or does marvel want to go all in on that theme?

Im not a parent, but I just cant see the writers getting much dramatic juice out of superhumans who are all relatively young losing a few years


Scott’s entire existence and reason for being a hero is Cassie. All his motivations spur from wanting to be a good Dad. Kang’s pitch to Scott feels like a natural extension of the first two movies, and a tempting lure for Scott. 

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“Oh, no, we have to watch 15 movies and 15 tv shows to know what’s going on, people hate this stuff” — said as if television series aren’t more popular than ever or we live in a time where watching 7 episodes of a Netflix drop in one night isn’t a right of passage. 

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3 minutes ago, Cap said:


Scott’s entire existence and reason for being a hero is Cassie. All his motivations spur from wanting to be a good Dad. Kang’s pitch to Scott feels like a natural extension of the first two movies, and a tempting lure for Scott. 

For people saying tonal shift.

 

Personally for me this movie feels like perfect culmination of Scott and Cassie story so far ( which has always been the hook of the Ant Man more than so the Hope and Scott romance)

 

I am actually happy with this direction if they pull it off. 

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2 minutes ago, Cap said:

“Oh, no, we have to watch 15 movies and 15 tv shows to know what’s going on, people hate this stuff” — said as if television series aren’t more popular than ever or we live in a time where watching 7 episodes of a Netflix drop in one night isn’t a right of passage. 

I think if there was no covid , MCU would have been doing very good. 

 

Wandavision is still one of the most talked about show of recent times. 

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39 minutes ago, Spidey Freak said:

Can Endgame goodwill for Lang, hype for Kang and lack of competition power this to highest grossing MCU of 2023?

 

Oh No Wow GIF by The Great British Bake Off

… not even remotely close? This could do awesome and it’ll still be dead to gotg in under 10 days.

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