Liiviig 1998 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 1 hour ago, charlie Jatinder said: I will look into it tonight. Edit: Didn't took long 😛 Seems like $75-85M opening weekend internationally. Full run may be $225-250M. It has do more than that if it's to breakeven. At least BW had 125m+ PA to look forward to with disney getting a bigger percentage of that money. This doesn't have that. Dom ain't fully reliable just yet . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liiviig 1998 Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 (edited) 29 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said: MCU is beyond individual films breaking even or not. That said, it will break even with ease. That will depend on the domestic market at least based on your OS prediction. If a film loses money it has lost money really don't know what you mean by mcu films are beyond breaking even or not. That being said personally still think it will barely breakeven. 225-230m dom 275m+ OS Edited November 2, 2021 by Liiviig 1998 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champsi Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 38 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said: MCU is beyond individual films breaking even or not. That said, it will break even with ease. Eternals costs 200M. If we go by 2.5x, it needs 500M to break even. Ans there's no way to reach that with 250M OS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danhjpn Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 12 minutes ago, Liiviig 1998 said: That will depend on the domestic market at least based on your OS prediction. If a film loses money it has lost money really don't know what you mean by mcu films are beyond breaking even or not. That being said personally still think it will barely breakeven. 225-230m dom 275m+ OS is there any article saying that movie has to gross x2.5 its cost to break even or this is an assumption? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champsi Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Sure it will make its money back with streaming, PVOD and other markets. But not with box office Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
across the Jat verse Posted November 2, 2021 Author Share Posted November 2, 2021 6 minutes ago, Danhjpn said: is there any article saying that movie has to gross x2.5 its cost to break even or this is an assumption? this is just a general rule but it differs for every film. Since Eternals isn't releasing in China, even $400M will have them recover the budget. besides box office isn't only revenue source to recover the budget to make it the criteria for success. What a film need to do is, first recover its release cost by box office revenue and then make contribution to recover the budget. There is TV/SVOD and Home Media revenue, that alone can recover budget sometimes. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danhjpn Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 9 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said: this is just a general rule but it differs for every film. Since Eternals isn't releasing in China, even $400M will have them recover the budget. besides box office isn't only revenue source to recover the budget to make it the criteria for success. What a film need to do is, first recover its release cost by box office revenue and then make contribution to recover the budget. There is TV/SVOD and Home Media revenue, that alone can recover budget sometimes. So it seems that movie will cost more if it wants to be released in China? That is the reason the assumption "movie need to make 2.5x its cost to break even? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issac Newton Posted November 2, 2021 Share Posted November 2, 2021 Interesting to see advance booking for Venom but no online booking window for Eternals at my local. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Lehnsherr Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 21 hours ago, Danhjpn said: So it seems that movie will cost more if it wants to be released in China? That is the reason the assumption "movie need to make 2.5x its cost to break even? No it's because the % studios get from China's BO is much less than in other territories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScareLol Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 Eternals Paris 14h: 3.293 tickets sold 3rd best of the year after DUNE (4.465 tickets) and NTTD (3.932 tickets). Shang-Chi sold 2.882 tickets and Black Widow did 2.800 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efialtes76 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 56 minutes ago, ScareLol said: Eternals Paris 14h: 3.293 tickets sold 3rd best of the year after DUNE (4.465 tickets) and NTTD (3.932 tickets). Shang-Chi sold 2.882 tickets and Black Widow did 2.800 3.9/5 at Allocine. Good+ WoM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnack Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, efialtes76 said: 3.9/5 at Allocine. Good+ WoM Very few vote in (122), but that higher than Widow first day after 320 votes in: https://web.archive.org/web/20210708005226/https://www.allocine.fr/film/fichefilm_gen_cfilm=230783.html Well received Chi was around 4.2 after 500 something vote: https://web.archive.org/web/20210903175510/https://www.allocine.fr/film/fichefilm_gen_cfilm=270144.html https://web.archive.org/web/20210901202634/https://www.allocine.fr/film/fichefilm_gen_cfilm=270144.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liiviig 1998 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 43 minutes ago, efialtes76 said: 3.9/5 at Allocine. Good+ WoM Isn't that lower than shangchi which didn't exactly set the box office there on fire. How does it compare to other mcu . But there a few reviews so may be it will rise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScareLol Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Liiviig 1998 said: Isn't that lower than shangchi which didn't exactly set the box office there on fire. How does it compare to other mcu . But there a few reviews so may be it will rise. It started at 3.7 and now it's at 3.9 so it's rising, it's good WOM. For example, Venom 2 has 2.2 and Dune which had great WoM is at 4.3 Edited November 3, 2021 by ScareLol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 On 11/2/2021 at 12:54 AM, charlie Jatinder said: I will look into it tonight. Edit: Didn't took long 😛 Seems like $75-85M opening weekend internationally. Full run may be $225-250M. Isn't it opening almost everywhere. Is there any big market left(lets ignore China where its not going to release). 3x legs seems high for MCU movie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
john2000 Posted November 3, 2021 Share Posted November 3, 2021 (edited) 14 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said: Isn't it opening almost everywhere. Is there any big market left(lets ignore China where its not going to release). 3x legs seems high for MCU movie. Russia left as for legs if memory serves 2,5-3 legs is normal for mcu in os markets Edited November 3, 2021 by john2000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
across the Jat verse Posted November 3, 2021 Author Share Posted November 3, 2021 1 hour ago, keysersoze123 said: Isn't it opening almost everywhere. Is there any big market left(lets ignore China where its not going to release). 3x legs seems high for MCU movie. May be around $10-15M worth market get release later, but Europe is leggier than US, and that's the one contributing higher these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efialtes76 Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 €544k OD in Italy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Issac Newton Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 18 minutes ago, efialtes76 said: €544k OD in Italy. Passed Venom 2 OD (€527K) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danhjpn Posted November 4, 2021 Share Posted November 4, 2021 40 minutes ago, Issac Newton said: Passed Venom 2 OD (€527K) feeling Venom 2 had frontload factor due to being a sequel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...