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PSA:   As a heads up to everyone, we'll be starting a new thread here very soon. For those who are newer to the forum, we typically have to split threads once they reach 1,000+ pages and are still highly active. In the past, such topics have created database slowdown issues that affect the entire forum.   Rest assured, this thread will be archived when it is locked and a link to the new one will be posted to help you find it easily (it will also be pinned to the top of the box o
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Yea we're gonna drop all this non tracking stuff. That expressly means you, @excel1. Next post from you that isn't tracking related is a thread ban.    Anyone else continues, it's points. 

We're all tired of the non-tracking related thread derailments. This is your fair warning.

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keysersoze123 Global Phenomenon

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14 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said:

25-30K won’t shock me.

It definitely looks like it. I wonder how tomorrow would behave with reviews out plus its T-1. I could see thursday come close to Thor thorsday. Thor did 41K and 161K in final 2 days after 26K tuesday. 

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1 hour ago, Tinalera said:

The Flash

Thurs Jun 15 and Fri June 16 (T-17)

Vancouver and Calgary Canada

 

Flash            
vanc # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent
Thurs 3 12 174 2753 2927 0.0594
Fri 3 15 69 3701 3770 0.0183
             
calgary # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent
Thurs 4 19 117 3678 3795

0.0308

Fri 3 26 95 5055 5150 0.0184

 

GOTG 3 (T-17)

 

T-17   # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent
Vancouver Thurs 4 21 562 3749 4311 0.1303
  Fri 4 26 434 4610 5044 0.0860
               
    # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent
Calgary Thurs 4 21 450 3712 4162 0.1081
  Fri 4 25 282 4528 4810 0.0586

 

 

Total seat availability 

 

  V T  V F  C T C F
Flash 2927 3770 3795 5150
GOTG 3 4311 5044 4162 4810
diff -1384 -1274 -367 340

 

 

Shazam 2 (T-20)

 

Vancouver Thurs 3 18 8 3892 3900 0.0020
  Fri 3 22 15 4977 4992 0.0030
               
    # theatre #show Seats Sold Seats Rem Ttl seat Percent
Calgary Thurs 3 7 7 1299 1306 0.0053
  Fri 3 10 1 1862 1863 0.0005

 

  V T V F C T  C F
Flash 2927 3770 3795 5150
Shazam2 3900 1306 1306 1863
diff -973 2464 2489 3287

what can be gleamed from this data?

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7 hours ago, John Marston said:

Saying Flash will get huge walk ups that will make up for weaker presales seems like wishful thinking. Indy 5 is a better example of a film that should get huge walk ups. Yet people seem to have written that one off from presales 


You really want Flash to fail why is that 

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I'm reaaally curious as to the effect the review embargo on Flash because of how reactions have already been around for weeks even before the pre-sales and all over the place. Will seeing a good Rotten Tomatoes score really move the needle that much? Guess we'll find out. 

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1 hour ago, keysersoze123 said:

It definitely looks like it. I wonder how tomorrow would behave with reviews out plus its T-1. I could see thursday come close to Thor thorsday. Thor did 41K and 161K in final 2 days after 26K tuesday. 

I had been thinking 27k-35k-150k, with great reviews helping spur a Wed bump even with Atom, and then a slightly better final day ratio than Thor.

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7 minutes ago, Menor Reborn said:

I had been thinking 27k-35k-150k, with great reviews helping spur a Wed bump even with Atom, and then a slightly better final day ratio than Thor.

It should be interesting next 2 days for sure. let us see how things go. 

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9 minutes ago, 21C said:

I'm reaaally curious as to the effect the review embargo on Flash because of how reactions have already been around for weeks even before the pre-sales and all over the place. Will seeing a good Rotten Tomatoes score really move the needle that much? Guess we'll find out. 

probably be in the fresh range, but it needs to be in the 85+ range is we want major breakout potential 

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40 minutes ago, raegr said:

what can be gleamed from this data?

That I just leave for others :)-though I will say trying to compare GOTG and Shazam both arent the greatest comparos, but only real ones I have for that time frame. I will also say that Canadian numbers can show sometimes that they can either be very close or very way off their US counterparts. I find a number of people who view my Canadian stuff like to use it as a compo to US numbers just to see how Canada is doing (with Canada being considered part of US Domestic count).  From what Im seeing so far Flash is kind of odd up here, its got a bigger head of steam than Shazam did, but not nearly as close as GOTG-its kind of its own thing. And I put the data out there for people to look and see for themselves. Not everyone is interested in Canada numbers, and I get that-but there seems to be enough people who like the extra bit of flavor. 

 

As for the available seats data-I think its interesting (because Cineplex is so different from US because their availaiblity of seats can change week to week if not day to day because they base their upcoming volume on what they can put on their screens the next week, so its interesting (to me) that there was such a disparity between the availablity of GOTG vs Shazam in comparison to Flash of how many seats were (or werent) available at that timeframe ;)

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3 minutes ago, Firepower said:

So it's frontloaded? :) Because huge nostalgia factor usually means fan rush.


But also a wider audience with older people that usually aren't watching Comic Book movies 😉 

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Across the Spider-Verse Denver Previews

AMC Westminster 24

Total 662 3200 20.69%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total 476 1875 25.39%

 

SEATS SOLD SOLD PAST DAY TOTAL SEATS PERCENT SOLD THEATERS SHOWINGS
3130 331 22847 13.70% 13 123

 

0.770 Guardians 3 T-3 13.48M
0.639 Ant-Man 3 T-3 11.18M
0.434 Thor L&T T-3 12.59M
0.572 Batman T-3 12.36M
1.390 Eternals T-3 13.20M

Across the Spider-Verse Denver Previews

AMC Westminster 24

Total 749 3200 23.41%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total 536 1872 28.63%

 

SEATS SOLD SOLD PAST DAY TOTAL SEATS PERCENT SOLD THEATERS SHOWINGS
3682 552 22847 16.12% 13 123

 

0.817 Guardians 3 T-2 14.29M
0.697 Ant-Man 3 T-2 12.20M
0.464 Thor L&T T-2 13.45M
0.589 Batman T-2 12.72M
1.478 Eternals T-2 14.04M
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Across the Spider-Verse Alamo Drafthouse

T-3 Thursday 172 Showings 8991 +746 25215 ATP: 15.74
0.656 Guardians 3 T-3 11.48M
0.585 Ant-Man 3 T-3 10.24M
0.504 Thor L&T T-3 14.62M
0.644 Batman Thurs only T-3 11.33M
1.379 Eternals  T-3 13.10M

 

T-4 Friday 202 Showings 8432 +802 31342 ATP: 15.70
0.629 Guardians 3 T-4 19.25M
0.566 Ant-Man 3 T-4 16.37M
0.538 Thor L&T T-4 21.80M
0.553 Batman T-4 19.40M
1.308 Eternals  T-4 27.91M

 

T-5 Saturday 195 Showings 7606 +778 30567
0.509 Guardians 3 T-5 19.79M
0.507 Ant-Man 3 T-5 17.19M
0.521 Thor L&T T-5 21.95M
0.469 Batman T-5 20.27M
1.183 Eternals  T-5 28.54M

 

T-6 Sunday 179 Showings 5049 +695 27792
0.575 Guardians 3 T-6 18.07M
0.650 Ant-Man 3 T-6 16.76M
0.571 Thor L&T T-6 18.55M
0.606 Batman T-6 20.70M
1.286 Eternals T-6 21.00M

Across the Spider-Verse Alamo Drafthouse

T-2 Thursday 245 Showings 10514 +1523 34337 ATP: 15.69
0.684 Guardians 3 T-2 11.97M
0.648 Ant-Man 3 T-2 11.35M
0.551 Thor L&T T-2 15.98M
0.657 Batman Thurs only T-2 11.57M
1.474 Eternals  T-2 14.01M

 

T-3 Friday 313 Showings 10096 +1664 44228 ATP: 15.63
0.650 Guardians 3 T-3 19.88M
0.614 Ant-Man 3 T-3 17.76M
0.584 Thor L&T T-3 23.68M
0.541 Batman T-3 18.98M
1.348 Eternals  T-3 28.76M

 

T-4 Saturday 296 Showings 8867 +1261 42079
0.517 Guardians 3 T-4 20.10M
0.546 Ant-Man 3 T-4 18.50M
0.540 Thor L&T T-4 22.72M
0.453 Batman T-4 19.60M
1.227 Eternals  T-4 29.59M

 

T-5 Sunday 275 Showings 5784 +735 39268
0.577 Guardians 3 T-5 18.14M
0.680 Ant-Man 3 T-5 17.51M
0.570 Thor L&T T-5 18.53M
0.563 Batman T-5 19.22M
1.315 Eternals T-5 21.48M
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Across the Spider-Verse Emagine Entertainment

T-3 Thursday 168 Showings 3170 +409 25818
1.338 Little Mermaid T-3 13.78M

 

T-4 Friday 226 Showings 3461 +456 35688
0.703 Little Mermaid T-4 19.47M

 

T-5 Saturday 235 Showings 1949 +283 37209
0.502 Little Mermaid T-5 15.07M

 

T-6 Sunday 233 Showings 774 +9 35924
0.477 Little Mermaid T-6 13.11M

 

Started tracking this Midwest chain a few weeks ago after Megaplex died. Won't have good comps for Spider-Verse. Not sure what happened Sunday... didn't notice any errors but something probably got messed up

Across the Spider-Verse Emagine Entertainment

T-2 Thursday 214 Showings 3944 +774 29176
1.419 Little Mermaid T-2 14.61M

 

T-3 Friday 285 Showings 4462 +1001 39703
0.721 Little Mermaid T-3 20.07M

 

T-4 Saturday 291 Showings 2503 +554 40963
0.529 Little Mermaid T-4 15.94M

 

T-5 Sunday 268 Showings 1014 +240 37910
0.502 Little Mermaid T-5 13.72M
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Transformers: Rise of the Beasts Denver Previews

AMC Westminster 24

Total 175 3335 5.25%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total 112 1705 6.57%

 

Wednesday: 341

Thursday:

SEATS SOLD SOLD PAST DAY TOTAL SEATS PERCENT SOLD THEATERS SHOWINGS
608 N/A 18395 3.31% 13 106

 

1.528 Black Adam T-10 11.61M

Transformers: Rise of the Beasts Denver Previews

AMC Westminster 24

Total 180 3271 5.50%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total 118 1705 6.92%

 

Wednesday: 382(+41)

Thursday:

SEATS SOLD SOLD PAST DAY TOTAL SEATS PERCENT SOLD THEATERS SHOWINGS
634 26 18591 3.41% 13 107

 

1.510 Black Adam T-9 11.47M
0.424 JW Dominion T-9 7.64M
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Transformers: Rise of the Beasts Alamo Drafthouse

T-10 Thursday 106 Showings 617   15847 ATP: 14.59
0.423 Black Adam T-10 3.22M

 

T-11 Friday 124 Showings 500   19068 ATP: 14.13
0.409 Black Adam T-11 7.81M

 

T-12 Saturday 123 Showings 410   19008 ATP: 14.16
0.324 Black Adam T-12 7.68M

 

T-13 Sunday 109 Showings 180   17363 ATP: 13.07
0.409 Black Adam T-13 6.79M

Transformers: Rise of the Beasts Alamo Drafthouse

T-9 Thursday 104 Showings 645 +28 15426 ATP: 15.50
0.415 Black Adam T-9 3.15M
0.123 JW Dominion T-9 2.22M

 

T-10 Friday 123 Showings 531 +31 19011 ATP: 14.21
0.394 Black Adam T-10 7.53M
0.100 JW Dominion T-10 4.17M

 

T-11 Saturday 123 Showings 437 +27 19035 ATP: 14.00
0.320 Black Adam T-11 7.59M
0.085 JW Dominion T-11 3.98M

 

T-12 Sunday 110 Showings 189 +9 17479 ATP: 13.03
0.419 Black Adam T-12 6.96M
0.071 JW Dominion T-12 2.73M
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Transformers: Rise of the Beasts Emagine Entertainment

T-9 Wednesday 3 Showings 88   445
T-10 Thursday 151 Showings 389   22862

 

T-11 Friday 236 Showings 380   35033

 

T-12 Saturday 238 Showings 365   35561

 

T-13 Sunday 237 Showings 127   35228

Transformers: Rise of the Beasts Emagine Entertainment

T-8 Wednesday 3 Showings 89 +1 445
T-9 Thursday 148 Showings 416 +27 22326

 

T-10 Friday 237 Showings 428 +48 34720

 

T-11 Saturday 238 Showings 370 +5 35091

 

T-12 Sunday 237 Showings 148 +21 34758
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