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TOP GUN MAVERICK/MEMORIAL DAY WEEKEND THREAD | 126.7M 3-Day, 160.5M 4-Day. The biggest Memorial Day opening ever! | Doctor Strange 20.5M 4-Day, Bob's Burgers 14.8M

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M37 Box Office Gold

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20 minutes ago, M37 said:

But this is the problem in looking at grosses and not admissions - the latter is down far more than grosses suggest, being masked by a huge increase in ticket prices 

 

The audience pool is just smaller, and for some, TG2 is going to scratch that itch - or even take up the monthly budget for movies - before JWD and others even hit the screen 

What I’m really getting at is this: it’s easy to look at top line grosses of the big openers and think BO is OK, there just isn’t enough product out. I’ve made that argument too. But perhaps these tentpoles have done so well precisely because there has been such separation between them; the breakouts came largely during an overall dry spell (Shang-Chi, Venom, NWH, Uncharted, TG2 most notably).

 

So when you start stacking them on top of each other, a more normal release schedule in June & July, we don’t see overall numbers rise accordingly, but find that the audience pool is a actually a lot smaller, and when they have to share, there is less for everyone. The closest we’ve been to a normal calendar was October, which kicked off with Venom doing very well, and the rest of the slate was just … fine

 

Hope I’m wrong here. But think it’s worth at least being open to such a possibility 

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filmlover Cinematic Universe

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Speaking of IMAX/PLFs, for those curious, this is what the schedule for IMAX and Dolby Cinema is going to be for the rest of the summer.

 

June 10: Jurassic World (IMAX + Dolby)

June 17: Lightyear (IMAX + Dolby)

June 24: Elvis and The Black Phone fighting for Dolby screens

July 1: Minions (IMAX + Dolby)

July 8: Thor (IMAX + Dolby)

July 22: Nope (IMAX + Dolby)

July 29: Super-Pets (Dolby)

August 5: Bullet Train (IMAX + Dolby)

 

So with the exception of Thor (and Lightyear and Nope on IMAX screens because of contracts related to the format-made footage for those respective movies), something new every week.

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Tokugennumataka Sleeper Hit

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As it turns out, TG:M had the 15th best OW for a non CBM, non SW film (Made sense to exclude the most prominent franchise and genre to get a closer look at how it fared against others.) 

1. Jurassic World - $208.81M

2. The Lion King - $191.77M

3. Beauty and the Beast - $174.75M

4. Deathly Hallows Part 2 - $169.19M

5. THG: Catching Fire - $158.07M

6. The Hunger Games - $152.54M

7. JW: Fallen Kingdom - $148.02M

8. Furious 7 - $147.19M

9. Twilight Saga: New Moon - $142.84M

10. TTS: Breaking Dawn 2 - $141.07M

11. TTS: Breaking Dawn 1 - $138.12M

12. PotC: Dead Man's Chest - $135.63M

13. Finding Dory - $135.06M

14. Frozen 2 - $130.26M

15.Top Gun: Maverick - $126.7M

16.Deathly Hallows: Part 1 - $125.02M

17. It - $123.4M

18. THG: Mockingjay Part 1 - $121.9M

19. Shrek the Third - $121.63M

20. Toy Story 4 - $120.91M

 

Two more additions are likely gonna add to this list in the upcoming 3 weeks. 

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M37 Box Office Gold

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28 minutes ago, Tokugennumataka said:

As it turns out, TG:M had the 15th best OW for a non CBM, non SW film (Made sense to exclude the most prominent franchise and genre to get a closer look at how it fared against others.) 

1. Jurassic World - $208.81M

2. The Lion King - $191.77M

3. Beauty and the Beast - $174.75M

4. Deathly Hallows Part 2 - $169.19M

5. THG: Catching Fire - $158.07M

6. The Hunger Games - $152.54M

7. JW: Fallen Kingdom - $148.02M

8. Furious 7 - $147.19M

9. Twilight Saga: New Moon - $142.84M

10. TTS: Breaking Dawn 2 - $141.07M

11. TTS: Breaking Dawn 1 - $138.12M

12. PotC: Dead Man's Chest - $135.63M

13. Finding Dory - $135.06M

14. Frozen 2 - $130.26M

15.Top Gun: Maverick - $126.7M

16.Deathly Hallows: Part 1 - $125.02M

17. It - $123.4M

18. THG: Mockingjay Part 1 - $121.9M

19. Shrek the Third - $121.63M

20. Toy Story 4 - $120.91M

 

Two more additions are likely gonna add to this list in the upcoming 3 weeks. 

Think the YA genre (Potter, Hunger Games) is special enough to separated out too, given the IP and fandom driving an OW push. The four pillars of big box office are: Comics, Families, YA Novels (though that ship has probably sailed), and horror/monsters. Really the true outliers on that list are Fast 7 and TG2, two action films that caught lightning in a bottle, and the Pirates franchise (I put JP/JW in the monster category)

 

Also two additions? That's pretty optimistic for Lightyear.  Suspect we're going to find out how much damage Disney has done to the Pixar brand and their family-orientated BO prospects by dumping everything on to Disney+, right away or after a 45 day run.

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Tokugennumataka Sleeper Hit

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5 minutes ago, M37 said:

Think the YA genre (Potter, Hunger Games) is special enough to separated out too, given the IP and fandom driving an OW push. The four pillars of big box office are: Comics, Families, YA Novels (though that ship has probably sailed), and horror/monsters. Really the true outliers on that list are Fast 7 and TG2, two action films that caught lightning in a bottle, and the Pirates franchise (I put JP/JW in the monster category)

 

Also two additions? That's pretty optimistic for Lightyear.  Suspect we're going to find out how much damage Disney has done to the Pixar brand and their family-orientated BO prospects by dumping everything on to Disney+, right away or after a 45 day run.

Going by the post pandemic inflation of about 25% since 2019, TS4 adjusts close to 150M currently. Besides, the dearth of a blockbuster animated film since Sing 2 has created a sort of appetite among target audience imo. Being a TS spinoff its bound to have greater adult appeal too. 

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TiagoRodrigues Straight-to-DVD

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31 minutes ago, BruiseCruise said:

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/top-gun-opens-box-office-tom-cruise-1235155078/

 

160.5m

Jesus...and just a week ago some people were calling the 100M predictions crazy.

 

For a non-comic book movie or some huge multi-movie franchise this is honestly remarkable. It's a sequel for an 80's movie and that's always a huge gamble. 

 

Tom Cruise will not flop any time soon. No way those back-to-back Mission Impossible movies will fail as well. Incredible 3-run movie this guy is about to have. Shame about the cult he's a part of because as an artist there's no denying he's one of the best at what he does.

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M37 Box Office Gold

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18 minutes ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

North America’s Largest Cinema Chains Continue to Invest in Diversification

 

I'm fairly certain this was shared a few weeks back, but the major chains are well aware that PLF screens need to increase and most have announced plans to do so.   The changes will take time, but they are on the way.

Switching from Xenon to laser projection, while improving quality, isn't alone announcing plans to increase PLF screens.  Maybe it sets the groundwork for future upgrades, but those are going to take a lot more upfront investment, and frankly a lot of older theaters aren't well suited for them, without watering down the product. IMAX, which is its own brand, can reject new sites for not meeting their technical specs. Also wasn't claiming in my comments that major chains were clueless here, just that there is a mismatch between demand and supply, a lack of revenue to facilitate upgrades, and probably some trepidation given how the 3D fad came and went so quickly

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Never forget, the BOT crew of Charlie, RTH and myself pretty much nail the number about 18 hours before the trades.  Make sure you buy your Gold memberships, this is the best box office website by far.  

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excel1 Blockbuster

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3 hours ago, BruiseCruise said:

If he wasn't booked with avatar i'd love to see Cameron give his Aliens esque take on Jurassic Park that he wanted to

 

An Aliens style prequel of the dinosaurs capture while Jurassic World is under construction would be dope no doubt. 

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titanic2187 Summer Tentpole

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14 minutes ago, Brainbug the Dinosaur said:

Top Gun and EEAAO are the top storys of the year so far box-office-wise.

I think uncharted and dog should be in the mix, especially dog. In fact dogs has lower production budget than EEAO but 61.8m will be around the same as EEAO.

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Mojoguy Global Phenomenon

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Incredible for Maverick!

 

TG2 just needed to make at least $1 over $153,042,234 from Thursday-Monday to beat AWE, the argument about TG2 was not getting the true 4 day Memorial Day weekend record just became moot!

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excel1 Blockbuster

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13 hours ago, T-ReXXR said:


TGM O/U TG Adjusted? 

BOM has that at just over $439M....

 

Remember that TG 1986 pop culture impact signals a gross WAY MORE than $439 in 2022 dollars.

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