Cookson Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 Are these in USD? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
druv10 Posted March 12, 2017 Share Posted March 12, 2017 24 minutes ago, Cookson said: Are these in USD? Those are admissions for the weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 In Austria, Logan stays on top, Kong a close 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Parr Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Presales for Beauty and the Beast are rather muted so far, then again, it doesn't really have the franchise-effect in the same way other movies do, so it may not actually say much about the opening at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 Looking back at how Pete's Dragon bellyflopped, I'll be oberjoyed if Beauty makes 2mil total ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctis Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 How many tickets did Maleficent, AiW, Cinderella, and The Jungle Book sell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heretic Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 It seems blockbusters rarely do big business in Germany anymore. The market has seemed so down for ages now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miketheavenger Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 12 minutes ago, Heretic said: It seems blockbusters rarely do big business in Germany anymore. The market has seemed so down for ages now. Well, 2015 was quite big with TFA, Spectre, Minions and FJG2 all being Monster hits and a few other Blockbusters as well. But in general, the German theatre industry is definitely declining. The peak was in the first half of the 2000's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 15 minutes ago, miketheavenger said: Well, 2015 was quite big with TFA, Spectre, Minions and FJG2 all being Monster hits and a few other Blockbusters as well. But in general, the German theatre industry is definitely declining. The peak was in the first half of the 2000's. That's the effect of demographics : Old people are less likely to go to the cinema and they're a much bigger part of the population than in France or the UK. And the most likely to see these movies, people under 35, are declining in numbers... Japan has the same problems, and that will accelerate even if 2016 was great there, given the population of the country it was still weak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Parr Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 It doesn't really help that the industry has been ignoring the truth for years. Instead of acknowledging rather lacklustre admission totals, they try to sweep these numbers under the rug, focusing on the money made instead. While it is the money that pays for the running costs, the numbers would be way bigger if the admission totals were larger, as would be the money made from snacks. The more people come, the more popcorn and soda you can sell. France has far more people going to the theaters, even though it has a smaller population. In Germany they go with more and more expensive tickets to keep the monetary inflow at a somewhat steady level, but that cuts into the own future. The more expensive things get, the fewer people will come - or the fewer visits the average person will have per year - and just like that, those who still come will have less money to spend on snacks. France has much cheaper tickets, and while that may hurt the total a movie makes, the larger number of people should help the cinemas. You only get a partial sum from the tickets, but you get everything from concessions. Having a sizeable audience is much more healthy long-term than constantly having to up the ticket prices to make enough money. 2016 was an extremely weak year though. There wasn't anything that really caught on. It would be nice to know what exactly caused the boom of the late 90s and early 00s. Having two huge fantasy-franchises certainly helped, but that can't be the sole reason for it. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted March 13, 2017 Author Share Posted March 13, 2017 Yep, France is showing the way with their bring-peonpe-to-theaters promotions, cheap tickets and so on. I never understood the appeal 3D had for theaters - selling fewer seats at higher costs but deliviering nearly all of that as license fees? More seats = more concession = more revenue for the theater. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giesi Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Theatre concentration accompanied with the decrease of accessible cinemas shouldn't be ignored. I have to drive 25km to get to the next cinema now. And there are still people living in more rural parts of the country despite urbanisation. Another factor is definately internet piracy, I'm sure that's a problem in France and the UK, too, but it seems like it causes more troubles here. It looks like everybody torrents, even ignoring the fact that it's wrong and illegal. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Parr Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 (edited) I'm not sure if piracy has that much of an impact. Those who download the movie mostly wouldn't have seen it in theaters anyway. If you are really interested in watching a movie, you aren't going to watch a tiny version of it that might even be in rather bad quality. Those who pirate everything wouldn't go the the theater anyway, removing the option of illegal downloads would just mean they don't watch the movie at all, and the ones who occasionally download a movie are probably doing it more for movies they have a passing interest in, not the ones they absolutely have to see. The latter should hurt home-video sales more than the cinemas. It's a bit different when it comes to tv-shows. A lot of people want to see things right when they come out, which is possible with movies due to release dates not being spread out as far as they used to, but it's not really happening with tv-shows. Instead you have a delay until the shows come your country, leaving many people with dowloading the originals or watching a stream. Edited March 13, 2017 by George Parr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
el sid Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 (edited) As often, Monday updates look (much) better. Despite the sunny weather yesterday almost every film's admission number increased: #1 Kong 295k (282.5k without previews, so it almost had none, good) #2 Logan 200k/640k total #3 Bibi & Tina 4 185k/1.15M #4 FSD 130k/3.19M #5 Moonlight 85k (65k without previews) #6 La La Land 62.5k #7 Sleepless 60k (45k without previews) #8 Lion 52.5k #9 John Wick 2 52.5k #10 Lego 50k ...Wilde Maus 37.5k Recep Ivedik 5 27.5k/520k total Cure for Wellness 27.5k/205k Hidden Figures 25k/385k Split 25k/1.175M Marx 25k/92.5k Edited March 13, 2017 by el sid 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 12 hours ago, Noctis said: How many tickets did Maleficent, AiW, Cinderella, and The Jungle Book sell? Alice in Wonderland 544k/2,97M Maleficent 460k/1,51M Cinderella 274k/1,07M TJB 460k/1,87M Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted March 13, 2017 Share Posted March 13, 2017 Germany has become a joke of a market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George Parr Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 11 hours ago, Omni said: Germany has become a joke of a market. And why would that be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullbuster Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 (edited) 11 hours ago, Omni said: Germany has become a joke of a market. Italy isn't better to be honest. France and the UK seem to be the only markets performing well in Europe. Edited March 14, 2017 by Fullbuster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Exactly, Italy has been kind of depressing lately. Just look at its top 20 of all time: even when you look at the actual gross instead of admissions, the top 20 is filled with pre-2013 title, and especially pre-2010. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndustriousAngel Posted March 14, 2017 Author Share Posted March 14, 2017 Germany's Top20 last weekend: title admissions th. PTA total adm. total € drop week 1 Kong - Skull Island 282.379 547 516 294.380 3.176.602 - 1 2 Logan 198.430 624 318 640.828 5.920.191 -36 2 3 Bibi & Tina 4 185.298 785 236 1.162.072 7.535.619 -44 3 4 Fifty Shades of Grey 2 130.789 604 217 3.188.580 28.531.976 -41 5 5 Moonlight 65.664 90 730 83.124 669.896 - 1 6 La La Land 63.078 713 88 1.527.126 13.062.330 -39 9 7 Lion 53.378 247 216 273.065 2.284.875 -27 3 8 John Wick 53.092 462 115 725.284 6.356.597 -47 4 9 The LEGO Batman Movie 49.673 588 84 803.495 6.248.085 -46 5 10 Sleepless 43.993 222 198 57.054 471.847 - 1 11 Wilde Maus 37.006 85 435 50.117 355.382 - 1 12 Recep Ivedik 28.047 123 228 521.660 4.603.545 -59 4 13 A Cure for Wellness 27.692 393 70 205.432 1.891.170 -50 3 14 Mein Blind Date mit dem Leben 27.675 391 71 703.305 5.661.123 -34 7 15 Der junge Karl Marx 27.059 269 101 100.014 758.926 -46 2 16 Hidden Figures 26.400 310 85 400.298 3.281.005 -31 6 17 Split 25.900 283 92 1.176.781 10.051.284 -44 7 18 Moaana 17.628 398 44 2.083.514 15.883.493 -43 12 19 Yu-Gi-Oh! - The Dark Side of Dimensions 17.418 133 131 17.418 217.477 - 1 20 A Dog's Purpose 16.215 245 66 112.012 825.289 -45 3 A rather boring and mediocre weekend without surprises - Kong did what was expected from it and Logan's drop was a bit better than feared. Austrian crime comedy Wilde Maus had a nice opening on its few screens. Next weekend: Beauty and the Beast should take the weekend crown with ease, even if a look at Disney's latest remakes doesn't give us hope for a blockbuster. It's the only wide release but there are a couple of smaller yet interesting ones like french animation Oscar contender La Tortue Rouge or swedish comedy Hundraettåringen … (the first one was a medium-sized arthouse hit) or domestic easter-themed kiddie animation Die Häschenschule. I'm just hoping Beauty can at least make more than 400k admissions OW, and maybe some nive drops for the actioners. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...