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42 minutes ago, Giesi said:

I would say the whole genre is slowly going down, the oversaturation hurts superhero movies! 

 

We've had three $700M+ superhero movies in the past 4 months and one released just now that will come close to $700M (hopefully). That hardly shows any fatigue of the genre.

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19 minutes ago, Quigley said:

 

We've had three $700M+ superhero movies in the past 4 months and one released just now that will come close to $700M (hopefully). That hardly shows any fatigue of the genre.

Fatigue will set in soon...

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2 hours ago, Quigley said:

 

We've had three $700M+ superhero movies in the past 4 months and one released just now that will come close to $700M (hopefully). That hardly shows any fatigue of the genre.

I think Giesi was talking about the German market ... superheroes were never big here except for some notable exceptions (197x Superman, 200x Spiderman) and the market feels, indeed, oversaturated. My son is 25 but neither he nor his friends are very excited about the stuff any longer. I told him I saw Civil War and he replied that he hadn't known it was in release alrady ... that's oversaturation I'd say.

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7 minutes ago, IndustriousAngel said:

I think Giesi was talking about the German market ... superheroes were never big here except for some notable exceptions (197x Superman, 200x Spiderman) and the market feels, indeed, oversaturated. My son is 25 but neither he nor his friends are very excited about the stuff any longer. I told him I saw Civil War and he replied that he hadn't known it was in release alrady ... that's oversaturation I'd say.

 

Ok I see. So it's basically that they're not popular in Germany, which is true since I can't recall any SH film making more than $10M OW (I think Age of Ultron is the biggest with $9M). Saturation is not a problem though.

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3 hours ago, Quigley said:

 

Ok I see. So it's basically that they're not popular in Germany, which is true since I can't recall any SH film making more than $10M OW (I think Age of Ultron is the biggest with $9M). Saturation is not a problem though.

Spiderman made $11M OW ;)

Spiderman 2 $12.5M

Dark Knight $10.4M

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Jepp, after a pretty grey and rainy week the sun appeared here in Bavaria in the late afternoon too. And the weekend weather is said to be sunny in most parts of Germany and Austria which is nice or not ;).
(I really smiled when Aristis posted a comment a few days ago about how he hopes for bad weather and his family thinks he's crazy, because this sounds familiar to me.)

Maybe The Witch - which is projected to have around 40k admissions - is a bit too special for a bigger audience. At least the reviews from critics and moviegoers are really good. But I don't know if this will translate into good legs. And the film started in only 173 theaters.

 

Bad Neighbors 2 and The First Avenger - Civil War should be #3 and #4 with each 90k moviegoers and The Jungle Book will become #5 with 60k. That's ok charts-wise but it's also a minus of more than 50% for each film, not good.

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2. Trend

 

X-Men 275k

Angry Birds 160k (-50% without and -55% with previews)

BN 100k (a bit less than 50% drop)

CA 90k (-60%)

TJB 60k (>-50%)

 

Since the lowest movie listed has 25k admissions, Zoo is probably below that mark. Harsh drop again (>-50%) but expected with good weather ahead.

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37 minutes ago, Blaze Heatnix said:

Damn, Civil War is dropping like a stone everywhere...

 

I think it won't make 1.2 billion worldwide anymore, which is disappointing for a movie featuring all these characters.

 

Disappointing for a movie with all those character and beter received then Iron man 3 and Age of Ultron... Yeah it's a prety big shame :(

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8 minutes ago, pepsa said:

 

Disappointing for a movie with all those character and beter received then Iron man 3 and Age of Ultron... Yeah it's a prety big shame :(

 

Better received doesn't always translate to bigger numbers. AoU was easily the more digestible movie for international audiences I think. Honestly, Iron Man 3 as well.

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Superhero fatigue?

 

Civil War has already made $1.054 billion worldwide and people are disappointed at that number? When will this insanity stop!?!?

 

For the people's who are saying this is an avengers movie, let me tell you that it is not. The avengers always assembled to face some world ending threat. Where is the world ending threat in this movie? This movie is a Captain America movie, which focus on him and his friend Bucky.

 

Also for those who are interested - Anthony Mackie (Falcon) explains why this a Captain America movie and not an avengers movie.

 

 

That’s what I thought at first, when I first read it, but not at all. It really plays well with the storyline of Cap, and how he’s evolved into his own man, him doing his own thing, everybody coming together to fight for the common good of man.

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Germany's Top20 last weekend:

 

title

admissions

th.

PTA

total adm.

total €

drop

week

1

X-Men - Apocalypse

213.229

630

338

239.031

2.670.177

-

1

2

Angry Birds

145.412

708

205

742.509

5.792.375

-56

2

3

Neighbors 2

87.322

565

155

568.446

4.635.846

-55

3

4

Captain America - Civil War

74.675

569

131

1.559.452

17.469.864

-67

4

5

The Jungle Book

48.939

613

80

1.639.082

15.820.145

-62

6

6

The Witch

29.313

172

170

29.775

260.919

-

1

7

Rico, Oskar und der Diebstahlstein

20.176

658

31

233.296

1.443.131

-57

4

8

Zootopia

19.411

509

38

3.619.272

29.547.038

-56

12

9

How to Be Single

17.385

325

53

951.727

7.833.689

-56

7

10

Wie Männer über Frauen reden

11.655

298

39

88.117

690.069

-71

2

11

Le Goût des merveilles

10.945

238

46

484.405

3.572.653

-50

11

12

A Hologram for the King

10.660

286

37

170.276

1.377.744

-65

4

13

Monsieur Chocolat

10.337

93

111

13.151

104.313

-

1

14

En Man Som Heter Ove

9.458

328

29

359.061

2.732.862

-59

7

15

Comme un avion

8.077

55

147

13.742

99.505

-

1

16

Junges Licht

5.146

46

112

24.444

201.060

-54

2

17

Triple 9

4.712

163

29

72.725

540.946

-72

3

18

Peggy Guggenheim: Art Addict

4.565

56

82

28.863

223.950

-51

3

19

A Bigger Splash

4.332

93

47

48.659

372.549

-66

3

20

Mängelexemplar

4.216

120

35

33.094

262.576

-72

2

 

Horrible, horrible weekend. It's hard to gauge X-Men's opening against the background of the overall depressed business - of course, it might have done better under better circumstances but I don't see a big rebound next weekend, so we can safely assume this won't get anywhere near 1mil total.

 

Which leads us to next weekend: Warcraft and Alice2 are the big openers. Of course, Alice1 was a big success in Avatar's 3D tracks, but that effect is long past - neither is Johnny Depp a BO magnet anymore. Still, I'd give Alice the edge over Warcraft which seems to have very little buzz (the trailer got more laughs than "oooh!"s).  Both CA:CW and X.Men will get hurt by Warcraft though, even if it opens to only 200k - and the same goes for family stuff with Alice - even if it completely underperforms (say, <300k), it will still hurt AB, JB and Zootopia.

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5 hours ago, MarvelandDC said:

Superhero fatigue?

 

Civil War has already made $1.054 billion worldwide and people are disappointed at that number? When will this insanity stop!?!?

 

For the people's who are saying this is an avengers movie, let me tell you that it is not. The avengers always assembled to face some world ending threat. Where is the world ending threat in this movie? This movie is a Captain America movie, which focus on him and his friend Bucky.

 

Also for those who are interested - Anthony Mackie (Falcon) explains why this a Captain America movie and not an avengers movie.

 

 

 

I disagree. While it is technically a Captain America movie, it wasn't presented as one. It was very much marketed as a "group movie" not as Captain America featuring some others.

 

There is also little wrong with being disappointed if a movie has bad drops, and the movie had quite a few of those. Of course it's still a huge success, even Batman vs Superman isn't really a failure in that regard, but it is less than what seemed likely. If Star Wars had opened to ~250 million, held well over the holidays yet somehow ended up 10-20 millions behind Avatar domestically, then that would have been a huge success, but also been disappointing due to extreme drops causing it to suddenly fall flat. It's not impossible for a movie to be very successful yet still being behind what seemed possible with normal legs. Nor is there anything wrong with stating that the legs have not been particularly good.

 

That being said, I don't think there is anything like superhero fatigue currently existing.

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