THOR: LOVE AND THUNDER WEEKEND THREAD | The hammer swings down with 144.2 DOM, 302 WW, the 3rd-biggest 2022 opening | Minions 46.1, TGM 15.5, Elvis 11.2, JWD 8.6

[Blankments]

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[XXR & Friends]

4 minutes ago, Blankments said:

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Yea we've been pointing that out on the forum for a while. Another reason why this opening is lackluster. Of course, if L&T had an equal reception to Ragnarok, it would probably bank another $20M this weekend. 

[Jiffy]

Studios need to be bitch-slapped back into maintaining a reasonable theatrical window.

[Noctis]

At least the blockbuster films from 2000-2011 were generally much more visually appealing.

 

The Lord of the Rings, Inception, Half-Blood Prince, The Dark Knight, Deathly Hallows Parts 1 & 2, Casino Royale, Dead Man's Chest, Prisoner of Azkaban, War of the Worlds, etc...

 

They had great effects, but most importantly, they had beautiful cinematography that you just rarely find after 2013. They exist but are far less...the visuals just look bland, cartoony, and lack impressive camera work.

[BestPicturePlutoNash]

Alice in Wonderland is probably when CGI in film collapsed lol. By 2016, when BVS dropped it was just a new level of bad. Since then, film productions have put less effort into the art of production to focus on post, hence the bad lighting and rushed CGI. 

 

Even if COVID inflated budgets, there's no way you look at the screen during Thor 4 and see its 250m on display in any meaningful way

[vale9001]

If Luhrmann said Elvis is not coming on Hbo Max until late fall why we shoudn't believe it?

 

I think it's not only about box office, maybe they want people talking about the movie again when the award season starts. 

Edited July 10, 2022 by vale9001

[The Dark Alfred]

Anyone calling this opening lackluster obviously has no idea what they're talking about. What next next on the denial list, the pandemic never actually happened, then we are not far from fake moonlanding and flat Earth? Luckily can't argue with facts, third biggest opening of the year for the 4th entry of a franchise that produces average films Ragnarok notwithstanding. This is without a doubt a great OW.

Edited July 10, 2022 by The Dark Alfred

[Issac Newton]

With an estimated $235M+, this weekend's combined domestic box office total represents the highest grossing combined weekend since the opening weekend of Spider-Man: No Way Home this past December.#BoxOffice

— BoxOfficeReport.com (@BORReport) July 10, 2022

[charlie Jatinder]

I can do with passable CGI if story delivers. If story isn't working, you can have as good visuals you can have, it will still be piece of shit.

[charlie Jatinder]

3 minutes ago, The Dark Alfred said:

Anyone calling this opening lackluster obviously has no idea what they're talking about. I guess the next thing you say that the pandemic never actually happened, then we are not far from fake moonlanding and flat Earth. Luckily can't argue with facts, second biggest opening of the year for the 4th entry of a franchise that is let's face it produces average films Ragnarok notwithstanding. This is without a doubt a great OW.

A THOR 4 should be opening closer to $200M. This is eh opening and just barely avoiding a complete disaster by being under Ragnarok inflation adj.

 

The bad quality of Phase 4 along with D+ fuckery is catching up. Marvel need to get its shit together before it's too late.

Edited July 10, 2022 by charlie Jatinder

[THUNDER BIRD]

2 minutes ago, charlie Jatinder said:

A THOR 4 should be opening closer to $200M. This is eh opening and just barely avoiding a complete disaster by being under Ragnarok inflation adj.

200 lol

Edited July 10, 2022 by THUNDER BIRD

[Noctis]

3 minutes ago, The Dark Alfred said:

Anyone calling this opening lackluster obviously has no idea what they're talking about. I guess the next thing you say that the pandemic never actually happened, then we are not far from fake moonlanding and flat Earth. Luckily can't argue with facts, second biggest opening of the year for the 4th entry of a franchise that is let's face it produces average films Ragnarok notwithstanding. This is without a doubt a great OW.

 

Yes, let's compare people not finding this opening impressive to the moon landing deniers. Great logic.

[vale9001]

The source about Elvis on Hbo Max is a Luhrmann instagram story. So we can take it as official.

 

 

 

 

[Doffy]

9 minutes ago, BestPicturePlutoNash said:

Alice in Wonderland is probably when CGI in film collapsed lol. By 2016, when BVS dropped it was just a new level of bad. Since then, film productions have put less effort into the art of production to focus on post, hence the bad lighting and rushed CGI. 

 

Even if COVID inflated budgets, there's no way you look at the screen during Thor 4 and see its 250m on display in any meaningful way

Why Alice?

[BestPicturePlutoNash]

1 minute ago, THUNDER BIRD said:

200 lol

He's not wrong. Thor following Ragnarok (a fan fave) and both IW+EG should have been a massive opening. All the solo movies following big crossovers had a bigger bump

[BestPicturePlutoNash]

1 minute ago, Doffy said:

Why Alice?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jra-YdyjOwc

[The Dark Alfred]

Why should Thor open to 200m? That is just an asanine take. This franchise doesn't produce great films. Only Ragnarok was outstanding. Maybe expectations were unrealistic for some people. The fourth entry just posted the BEST opening of the franchise. That is obviously can't be anywhere near a disaster. By the same logic Minions: Rise of Gru is a disappointment not matching Minions inflation adj?

[Noctis]

Ragnarok in 2017 opened to $122m, which adjusts to $146m today.

 

The fact that it didn't open to what it did has nothing to do with the pandemic and everything to do with poor marketing and underwhelming WOM/reviews. 

 

It's a sequel to a massively popular film...it should have opened to AT LEAST $160m.

 

 

[cax16]

4 minutes ago, BestPicturePlutoNash said:

He's not wrong. Thor following Ragnarok (a fan fave) and both IW+EG should have been a massive opening. All the solo movies following big crossovers had a bigger bump

Ya l was thinking this could do 180 before hand with what I saw from Batman and MOM. But I was expecting much better reception. Marvel has done a great job building up a fan base, they need to do better with quality going forward to keep those fans. 

[charlie Jatinder]

3 minutes ago, The Dark Alfred said:

Why should Thor open to 200m? That is just an asanine take. This franchise doesn't produce great films. Only Ragnarok was outstanding. Maybe expectations were unrealistic for some people. The fourth entry just posted the BEST opening of the franchise. That is obviously can't be anywhere near a disaster. By the same logic Minions: Rise of Gru is a disappointment not matching Minions inflation adj?

MCU isn't any franchise. All the Threequels & Fourthquel (Only 1 before this weekend i.e. Endgame) had massive jumps.

 

Thor was eh till Ragnarok. Ragnarok & then Infinity War completely changed that. Love & Thunder was supposed to be the pay-off for those 2 great entries. Iron Man 3 adjusted shouldn't be a big ask for it.

Edited July 10, 2022 by charlie Jatinder