keysersoze123 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 No numbers but I would be surprised if it does not go up from studio estimates. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyDargon Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 I have no idea why people seem to be under the delusion that Metroid is somehow Nintendo's most profitable franchise or that doing a film that would need PG-13 to do it justice is somehow comparable to what Mario just did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptNathanBrittles Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 1 hour ago, grey ghost said: I wonder if the samurai movie could be a success without cramming a white actor in there. Could something like The Last Samurai work without Tom Cruise? There are literally hundreds, if not thousands, of samurai movies made without white actors. What's the point of Hollywood doing something Japan has already done countless times? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyDargon Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 Just now, CaptNathanBrittles said: There are literally hundreds, if not thousands, of samurai movies made without white actors. What's the point of Hollywood doing something Japan has already done countless times? Would they even be "samurai" if they were all played by white people outside Japan? I know Samurai Cop is the most glorious achievement in film history but this idea doesn't sound great... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappoedameron Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 The highest selling IP in the Nintendo brand just Nintendo is Mario followed by Zelda. If it's Nintendo + partner it's Pokemon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founder / Operator Shawn Robbins Posted April 16, 2023 Founder / Operator Share Posted April 16, 2023 14 hours ago, DisposedData said: Well assuming Sat is 38m and it drops 35% tomorrow then we have an 85m weekend on our hands. Shawn's projection for this weekend is looking mighty accurate! I genuinely appreciate that, especially because here I am giving into the over-analytical perfectionist part of my brain like always and just being self-critical about misreading some other holdover. 😆🥴 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DisposedData Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 4 minutes ago, Cappoedameron said: The highest selling IP in the Nintendo brand just Nintendo is Mario followed by Zelda. If it's Nintendo + partner it's Pokemon. Mario has sold more than Pokemon. Merchandise is where Pokemon comes out ahead but I don't expect that to remain with the theme parks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyDargon Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, DisposedData said: Mario has sold more than Pokemon. Merchandise is where Pokemon comes out ahead but I don't expect that to remain with the theme parks. Pokemon is technically more valuable to Nintendo because of all the merchandise rights though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M37 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 45 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said: Yes, I said I messed up a number. It doesn’t matter much though since the correct calc still puts 600 in very good standing with that comp. Yeah, but my point was that JB is among the best legs for an opener over $100M, with the muscle of Disney to hold shows as the weeks go on, while for all of Illumination’s success they get there mostly with big openings and average to golf legs … and that comp doesn’t even get all the way to $600M Again, if next weekend’s total starts with 6, IMO we can entertain $600M talk, but it’s mostly a plausible but strongly optimistic outcome from this point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildphantom Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 “Mario earns Super Paper at the Box Office” Come on Variety, you can do better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DisposedData Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, MightyDargon said: Pokemon is technically more valuable to Nintendo because of all the merchandise rights though. Kind of sort of. Nintendo doesn't get 100% of the revenue with Pokemon like they do Mario as they only own around 66% of the IP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grey ghost Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 5 minutes ago, CaptNathanBrittles said: There are literally hundreds, if not thousands, of samurai movies made without white actors. What's the point of Hollywood doing something Japan has already done countless times? Because it's kind of condescending to center a Japanese period piece around white people every time. As if their history is irrelevant unless it involves whites. I guess it comes down to whether audiences would show up for a 100% Japanese cast. Has that ever happened for a movie released in America? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMan89 Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, M37 said: Yeah, but my point was that JB is among the best legs for an opener over $100M, with the muscle of Disney to hold shows as the weeks go on, while for all of Illumination’s success they get there mostly with big openings and average to golf legs … and that comp doesn’t even get all the way to $600M Again, if next weekend’s total starts with 6, IMO we can entertain $600M talk, but it’s mostly a plausible but strongly optimistic outcome from this point And I feel we can entertain 700 if next weekend starts with a 6, bc we’re getting into TGM holds at that point. Guess we will have to agree to disagree for now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MightyDargon Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 I still think Pokemon is the more valuable IP overall. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_media_franchises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DisposedData Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 1 minute ago, MightyDargon said: I still think Pokemon is the more valuable IP overall. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_media_franchises No one will ever know as the full merchandising revenue isn't disclosed for Mario like it is for Pokemon. Both don't have their gaming revenue listed on this article either. Nintendo definitely paints Mario as their flagship IP over Pokemon though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptNathanBrittles Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, grey ghost said: Because it's kind of condescending to center a Japanese period piece around white people every time. As if their history is irrelevant unless it involves whites. I guess it comes down to whether audiences would show up for a 100% Japanese cast. Has that ever happened for a movie released in America? There's nothing condescending about making a western movie for westerners with a western point of view. It is however, kind of condescending for Hollywood to to say "Nice 100+ years of cinema you've got there Japan, but we can do it better." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappoedameron Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 1 hour ago, wildphantom said: Could be done. First Spider-Verse was a self contained story though. I’m all for Illumination doing Zelda if they can treat it seriously, with a totally different approach. I see them doing it as much more likely than another studio, even if they wouldn’t be my number one choice based on what they’ve done so far. If Miyamoto watches over them just like he did this film I can imagine he will,seems a safe bet any film Universal makes for Nintendo will have it be with Nintendo fully watching over the project and making sure everything is as it needs to be. Zelda has a story and it's quite complex unlike Mario, so they will have to do justice to the story in Zelda. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cappoedameron Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 To me it's obvious the next games on the agenda for Illumination aside from the Super Mario Bros sequel is Luigi's Mansion and Donkey Kong Country. The way they showed you DK's world in the movie makes me think that's definitely on the agenda. Also all the protagonists of the games were in the arena. DK, Diddy, Dixie, and I believe that was Kiddy. Those are the protagonists of 1 through 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedijake Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 So, based off of SMB's success, Zelda movie will be animated. Say goodbye to a Zelda live-action movie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superduperm Posted April 16, 2023 Share Posted April 16, 2023 2 minutes ago, Cappoedameron said: To me it's obvious the next games on the agenda for Illumination aside from the Super Mario Bros sequel is Luigi's Mansion and Donkey Kong Country. The way they showed you DK's world in the movie makes me think that's definitely on the agenda. Also all the protagonists of the games were in the arena. DK, Diddy, Dixie, and I believe that was Kiddy. Those are the protagonists of 1 through 3. Donkey Kong Country is one of my favorite franchises ever. I know the original Super Nintendo trilogy by heart, practically. Dozens of people like me will be there the night it opens. Dozens, I assure you! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...