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[Kon]

15 minutes ago, BoxOfficeFangrl said:

The ease of getting the hardcore stuff online has diminished sex/nudity as a theatrical selling point. At least for male audiences: women still turned out for the 50 Shades movies and the After series to some extent, but those were based on Twilight fanfiction books, so they had fans attached to the "story".

 

TV shows can have edgier content now, there's the internet and streaming: theatrical Hollywood movies can't compete. Plus, studios want movies they can release everywhere, so that's another reason Hollywood has censored itself more in recent years.

 

There is also a romance/drama aspect in these movies (which you wouldn't find on porn) that could be attractive for women.

 

That said, there are TV shows covering these aspects too.

[ZattMurdock]

 

[Deep Wang]

1 minute ago, Jonwo said:

Tarantino makes up for that with a ton of swearing and violence.

 

I know, I just found it funny that he was the name dropped after talking about Nolan not putting sex scenes in his movie.

[Jonwo]

Just now, dudalb said:

ALmost every studio gets into "trouble" from time to time but few go under.

 

The big studios are protected because they're so big. Disney for example can weather a few flops because their other businesses make so much money. You rarely see a Heaven's Gate which can kill a studio.

 

 

[dudalb]

41 minutes ago, Jonwo said:

To use a very old examples License to Kill and Star Trek V which got lost in a summer with Ghostbusters II and Batman, the following films recovered nicely,

 

 

That both were among the weaker films in their franchises...Star Trek V is easily the worst Star Trek film....did not help.

With Licence To Kill, they tried to turn Bond into a Stallione/Schwartzner  80's action hero, and it just did not work.

[Hatebox]

6 minutes ago, Jonwo said:

Cinemas have always have periods of ups and downs. The early 70s were dominated by adult dramas but then Jaws and Star Wars ignited the spark. 

 

 

well yeah, cinema was really popular in the early 70s then it was really popular in the late 70s for different kind of films. Not sure what that proves.

 

streaming and what it means for viewing habits is a whole other ball game. Way more of an existential crisis than single purchase home video a few decades ago. 
 

 

Edited July 22, 2023 by Hatebox

[abracadabra1998]

Damn I guess I got my drops wrong, that sucks

[dudalb]

6 minutes ago, Jonwo said:

The big studios are protected because they're so big. Disney for example can weather a few flops because their other businesses make so much money. You rarely see a Heaven's Gate which can kill a studio.

 

 

If Heaven's gate had been made a couple of year earlier, UA would have survived. But it was made and came out at a time when UA was in chaos; in 1978 almost the entire managment of US quit is a dispute with the parent corporation, resulting in second tier Management being catapulted into the leading positions, and they messed up.

Disney also has I think an advantage in that it is an entertainment only corporation, it is not like some of the toher studios where the parent corporation

has it;s main interests elsewhere..SONY for example, is still primarily a electronic company....SONY films is a secondary enterprise.

Edited July 22, 2023 by dudalb

[wildphantom]

1 hour ago, baumer said:

 

You ever fucked on Coke, Nick? 😎

[BoxOfficeFangrl]

15 minutes ago, Deep Wang said:

 

The huge irony here is that Tarantino's movies have featured zero boobs and almost no sex except for a couple fully-clothed throwaway scenes lasting mere seconds as funny gags.  

 

Okay, so Fonda wasn't 'fully-clothed' as she only wearing a top, but all you see is her butt.

Lots of bare feet, though... My point was more that Nolan has an image of being very dry, a stuffed shirt, so it surprised people that anything possibly "edgy" might happen in his latest movie. And there wouldn't be the same shock with a different director.

 

The 'A' Cinemascores for Barbie and Oppenheimer, very surprising!

Edited July 22, 2023 by BoxOfficeFangrl

[budice]

Sat 2pm Local Time.   Nearby Theater is Sold Out for Barbie and Oppenheimer except the very front row seating

[dudalb]

7 minutes ago, BoxOfficeFangrl said:

Lots of bare feet, though...

 

The 'A' Cinemascore for Barbie and Oppenheimer

I think the lanugage is what gets Tarantino the R rating. You can drop the "F" bomb once or twice in a movie and get away with a PG 13, but you use it and other words as much as Tarantino does,you get an "R".

[Brainbug]

22 minutes ago, Deep Wang said:

 

The huge irony here is that Tarantino's movies have featured zero boobs and almost no sex except for a couple fully-clothed throwaway scenes lasting mere seconds as funny gags.  

 

Okay, so Fonda wasn't 'fully-clothed' as she only wearing a top, but all you see is her butt.

 

Tarantino doesnt need to use boobs or asses to make audiences wet.

 

All he needs for that is a pencil with which he writes down his dialogue.

[Brainbug]

13 minutes ago, wildphantom said:

 

Funny anecdote, the first time i saw Basic Instinct and i saw this actor, my mind immediately went: "Wait, what is Nedry doing here?! Wasnt he eaten by the dilophosaur??"

[Ororo Munroe]

5 minutes ago, ZattMurdock said:

 

Sorry the wording of this tweet is very funny to me. "If you exclude these movies and these movies and also these movies, Barbie is number 1." Ok? Anyway, Black Panther's numbers still remain the most impressive to me. A movie starring a lesser known Black superhero (featuring a majority Black cast) making that much money was just insane. Yeah it's the MCU but I can recall when the general consensus was that it would be a success if it grossed 700M total and turns out that was just its domestic total.   

[IronJimbo & Sheldon's Son]

So Barbenheimer has its own Wikipedia page now...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbenheimer

 

 

[Brainbug]

1 minute ago, IronJimbo & Sheldon's Son said:

So Barbenheimer has its own Wikipedia page now...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbenheimer

 

 

 

Its been up for nearly a week actually 😅

[Deep Wang]

6 minutes ago, Brainbug said:

 

Tarantino doesnt need to use boobs or asses to make audiences wet.

 

All he needs for that is a pencil with which he writes down his dialogue.

 

Yeah, there's A LOT of talk about sex, but no real sex or nudity.  Which is fascinating!

[ZattMurdock]

4 minutes ago, Ororo Munroe said:

Sorry the wording of this tweet is very funny to me. "If you exclude these movies and these movies and also these movies, Barbie is number 1." Ok? Anyway, Black Panther's numbers still remain the most impressive to me. A movie starring a lesser known Black superhero (featuring a majority Black cast) making that much money was just insane. Yeah it's the MCU but I can recall when the general consensus was that it would be a success if it grossed 700M total and turns out that was just its domestic total.   

Agree wholeheartedly.

[dudalb]

2 minutes ago, Brainbug said:

 

Its been up for nearly a week actually 😅

Not that it takes much to get you a wikipedia entry nowdays....