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A little Wonka update:
It had today for Thursday, December 14, 342 sold tickets in 7 theaters. 19 days left.
Comps (all three movies counted on Monday of the release week for Thursday so Wonka has 16 days left to come closer, overtake or increase the margin): The Little Mermaid (10.3M from previews) had 1.505 sold tickets,
Lyle, Lyle, Crocodile (575k) had 49 sold tickets
and Dolittle (925k) had 156 sold tickets

Haunted Mansion (3.1M) had with 12 days left 194 sold tickets.
Uncharted (3.7M) had with 15 days left 454 sold tickets.
And Jungle Cruise (2.7M from previews / 10.7M true Friday / 35M OW) had on Monday of the release week for Friday 357 sold tickets.

So it didn't have a big jump since Monday (23%) but that's for the time being a solid number.

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This counting is probably rather helpful for comparisons e.g. in the holiday season because I don't have Saturday comps. I was just curious if the sales already decrease or not. But just from presales, I can't complain.
 

Napoleon, counted today for today:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 246 (5 showtimes)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 176 (12 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 31 (4 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 63 (not bad for that theater, 5 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 44 (4 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 382 (7 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 440 (8 showtimes)

 

Total tickets sold in 7 theaters: 1.382.

We'll see which Saturday box office result Napoleon has but its presales number is quite fine.
On Tuesday for Tuesday, Napoleon had 1.170 sold tickets.
And on Thursday for Friday (= 1 day left) it were 1.061 sold tickets (it made estimated 8.35M on Friday; I guess the Friday for Friday number would have been similar to that today, also around 1.400 sold tickets).

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22 hours ago, YachtyLogs said:

WONKA

T-21

Small SE Wisconsin Sample

 

7/1245 - (0.56%)

 

New sold: 0

New showtimes: 0

Total showtimes: 9

Seats added: 0

Total sellouts: 0

 

No new sales for any of the movies today. Might be a Thanksgiving lag. 

WONKA

T-20

Small SE Wisconsin Sample

 

7/1245 - (0.56%)

 

New sold: 0

New showtimes: 0

Total showtimes: 9

Seats added: 0

Total sellouts: 0

 

No new sales for any of the movies AGAIN today. Ridiculously bad preview sales over here. 

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22 hours ago, YachtyLogs said:

AQUAMAN 2

T-27

 

Small SE Wisconsin Sample

 

19/2861 - (0.66%)

 

New sold: 0

New showtimes: 0

Total showtimes: 0

Seats added: 0

Total sellouts: 0

 

As I said with Wonka, no new sales today. 

AQUAMAN 2

T-26

 

Small SE Wisconsin Sample

 

19/2861 - (0.66%)

 

New sold: 0

New showtimes: 0

Total showtimes: 0

Seats added: 0

Total sellouts: 0

 

As I said with Wonka, no new sales again. Aquaman's starting to flounder. 

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22 hours ago, YachtyLogs said:

MIGRATION

T-27

 

Small SE Wisconsin Sample

 

0/1453 - (0%)

 

New sold: 0

New showtimes: 0

Total showtimes: 15

Seats added: 0

Total sellouts: 0

 

No new sales today but thats nothing new for this movie. I'm really surprised not a single ticket has sold thus far honestly. 

MIGRATION

T-26

 

Small SE Wisconsin Sample

 

0/1453 - (0%)

 

New sold: 0

New showtimes: 0

Total showtimes: 15

Seats added: 0

Total sellouts: 0

 

Yeah nothing else to say really. 

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2 minutes ago, YachtyLogs said:

WONKA

T-20

Small SE Wisconsin Sample

 

7/1245 - (0.56%)

 

New sold: 0

New showtimes: 0

Total showtimes: 9

Seats added: 0

Total sellouts: 0

 

No new sales for any of the movies AGAIN today. Ridiculously bad preview sales over here. 

 

FYI, I haven't posted my numbers for a week, but am seeing similar results. 7 sales across 20 showtimes in five theatres. It feels like it's too low to bother posting, as there's no real intel to get from it at this stage.

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On 11/15/2023 at 5:13 PM, keysersoze123 said:

Renaissance MTC1

Previews - 91355/318811 2306126.00 1600 shows

Friday - 73830/718097 1881835.00 3454 shows

 

it sold around 14500 tickets for friday over 39 days !!! I am thinking 5m previews and high 20s OW. 

Renaissance MTC1

Previews - 96554/321345 2433667.00 1626 shows

Friday - 79489/719914 2022147.00 2488 shows

 

Still just plodding along. Let us see how things go final week. 

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On 11/24/2023 at 7:06 PM, TheFlatLannister said:

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

MIGRATION 

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-27

SHOWINGS

SEATS SOLD

TOTAL SEATS

PERCENT SOLD

173

192

32850

0.58%

*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

15

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS 

T-27

 

(0.970x) of Trolls 3 $1.26M Previews

(0.550x) of Elemental $1.32M Previews

Comps AVG: $1.29M

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

MIGRATION 

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-26

SHOWINGS

SEATS SOLD

TOTAL SEATS

PERCENT SOLD

173

192

32850

0.58%

*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS 

T-26

 

(0.989x) of Trolls 3 $1.29M Previews

(0.530x) of Elemental $1.27M Previews

Comps AVG: $1.28M

 

No sales today 

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On 11/24/2023 at 7:04 PM, TheFlatLannister said:

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

GODZILLA MINUS ONE

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-6

SHOWINGS

SEATS SOLD

TOTAL SEATS

PERCENT SOLD

148

311

30792

1.0%

*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

5

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS 

T-6

 

(0.458x) of Exorcist $1.31M Previews

(0.666x) of The Creator $899k Previews

Comps AVG: $1.10M

 

EA sales *separate from Thursdays previews listed above*

650 seats sold over 20 showings 

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

GODZILLA MINUS ONE

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-5

SHOWINGS

SEATS SOLD

TOTAL SEATS

PERCENT SOLD

148

326

30792

1.1%

*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

15

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS 

T-5

 

(0.456x) of Exorcist $1.30M Previews

(0.652x) of The Creator $880k Previews

Comps AVG: $1.09M

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On 11/24/2023 at 7:12 PM, TheFlatLannister said:

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

WONKA

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-20

SHOWINGS

SEATS SOLD

TOTAL SEATS

PERCENT SOLD

195

758

36197

2.1%

*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

19

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS 

T-20

 

(0.429x) of Indy 5 $3.09M Previews

(0.373x) of TLM $3.84M Previews

Comps AVG: $3.47M

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

WONKA

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-19

SHOWINGS

SEATS SOLD

TOTAL SEATS

PERCENT SOLD

195

762

36197

2.1%

*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

4

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS 

T-19

 

(0.426x) of Indy 5 $3.07M Previews

(0.374x) of TLM $3.85M Previews

Comps AVG: $3.46M

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7 minutes ago, TheFlatLannister said:

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

MIGRATION 

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-26

SHOWINGS

SEATS SOLD

TOTAL SEATS

PERCENT SOLD

173

192

32850

0.58%

*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS 

T-26

 

(0.989x) of Trolls 3 $1.29M Previews

(0.530x) of Elemental $1.27M Previews

Comps AVG: $1.28M

 

No sales today 

Its really bad its doing so bad relative to Trolls. Trolls thursday sales were under indexing due to early shows 12 days before its previews. Here there are no early shows and still its below Trolls. 

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On 11/24/2023 at 7:15 PM, TheFlatLannister said:

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

AQUAMAN AND THE LOST KINGDOM

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-27

SHOWINGS

SEATS SOLD

TOTAL SEATS

PERCENT SOLD

191

692

38536

1.8%

*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

25

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS 

T-27

 

(0.366x) of The Marvels $2.41M Previews

(0.436x) of Indy 5 $3.14M Previews

(0.173x) of GOTG$3.02M Previews

Comps AVG: $2.86M

 

No Blue Beetle comp or Flash comp until T-22. Using Indy 5 and Guardians temporarily  

 

Well, it could be worse...It's still increasing against comps 

Orlando-Daytona-Gainesville 

 

AQUAMAN AND THE LOST KINGDOM

 

Thursday Previews 

 

T-26

SHOWINGS

SEATS SOLD

TOTAL SEATS

PERCENT SOLD

191

698

38536

1.8%

*numbers taken as of 6:00PM EST

SEATS SOLD SINCE YESTERDAY

6

 

SHOWINGS ADDED SINCE YESTERDAY

0

 

SELLOUTS

0

 

COMPS 

T-26

 

(0.357x) of The Marvels $2.35M Previews

(0.433x) of Indy 5 $3.12M Previews

(0.168x) of GOTG$2.94M Previews

Comps AVG: $2.80M

 

*No Blue Beetle comp or Flash comp until T-22. Using Indy 5 and Guardians temporarily  

 

Oof this was a bad day 

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2 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

Its really bad its doing so bad relative to Trolls. Trolls thursday sales were under indexing due to early shows 12 days before its previews. Here there are no early shows and still its below Trolls. 

its going to fall behind by a lot vs Trolls comp tomorrow  

 

Trolls sold 36 seats from T-26 to T-25 

I'm not sure if Migration is going to sell 10 

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6 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

Has anyone seen marketing for Migration anywhere, like at all? I’m not a kid obviously, but I have not. Usually Illumination marketing is as omnipresent as a plague. 


It was all over the Macy’s parade broadcast, which pulled in almost 30 million viewers. I get the trailer in front of nearly everything that’s PG rated too.

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1 hour ago, Giorno said:

It's an original kids movie that's still nearly a month away and 2 kids movies are eating up the family dollars atm, it should be comped with elementals 


I agree, Trolls has a built-in audience this does not. Plus, Illumination, while being a very competent studio at making movies families want to see, does not have brand sense in the sense that Disney or Pixar have (“have you seen the new Illumination movie?” Is not something most people would say, unlike with those two). 
 

All of this to say, let us wait a bit before we start judging pre-sales for Migration too much 

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2 hours ago, MovieMan89 said:

Has anyone seen marketing for Migration anywhere, like at all? I’m not a kid obviously, but I have not. Usually Illumination marketing is as omnipresent as a plague. 

Bc twinky shape minions are way easier to sell than generic ducks

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