Weekday #s | Aug 14-17 | Barbie #1 WB Domestic Film of ALL TIME, because it’s what she DESERVES.

[Mojoguy]

36 minutes ago, BoxOfficeFangrl said:

Last year's Cinema Day was on a holiday weekend and a Saturday, so the admissions for a regular Sunday might be lower. OTOH, the higher ticket prices can offset any losses in attendance--if any, because the marketplace has more depth than 2022, so that might boost demand. Theaters have experience with National Cinema Day now and won't be as unprepared. Looking forward to how it works out...

Last year the movie's with the best Cinema day weekend bumps were TGM, Super pets, and Minions 2.

 

So Barbie and TMNT should benefit the most this year. Beetle could have a flat 2nd weekend.

[MovieMan89]

1 hour ago, NCsoft said:

NATO list 2022 ATP as $10.58 for 2022, I'd assume 2023 ATP would be something like $10.80, but with the proliferation of PLFs, I think ticket price is drastically different from one film to another, depending on how much PLF and 3D helps the film.

 

It is hard to imagine any big budget movie with significant PLF has anything lower than $12 ATP these days, Barbie has reportedly $12.65 average ticket price and Oppenheimer at $13.65 for their opening weekends, might go down a bit over time though, Avatar 2 was like $14.5+

https://deadline.com/2023/07/box-office-barbie-oppenheimer-barbenheimer-1235443828/

 

$14.5 is just insane. On one hand, it makes it a bummer to think about how much admissions don’t really reflect such a huge gross. On the other hand, the admissions seem even more impressive bc it’s crazy that many people were willing to pay those kind of prices. That means they really really wanted to go see it, you don’t pay that for a movie otherwise. 

[Mojoguy]

42 minutes ago, Bob Train said:

With Cinema Day and Labor Day weekend MI7 could pass Indy 5. 

 

Barbie still on track for 640-650 imo.

Barbie final milestones will be $648M for 4x multipler and $652.3M to become Top 10 DOM. Let's see if WB will bother pushing it if it gets close.

[redfirebird2008]

4 minutes ago, MovieMan89 said:

Does anyone actually even know admissions data anyways? It seems like there wouldn’t be a good system in place to reliably keep track. 

 

Other countries track it, so it can be done. 

[MovieMan89]

1 minute ago, redfirebird2008 said:

 

Other countries track it, so it can be done. 

Doesn’t Lucas have accurate admissions data for a ton of movies up through the 90s or something? Did I make that up? 

[Deep Wang]

Just now, redfirebird2008 said:

 

Other countries track it, so it can be done. 

It’s really crazy because theaters have that data.  You can see exactly how many tickets were bought to each show. 

[Bob Train]

9 minutes ago, Mojoguy said:

Last year the movie's with the best Cinema day weekend bumps were TGM, Super pets, and Minions 2.

 

So Barbie and TMNT should benefit the most this year. Beetle could have a flat 2nd weekend.

Flat 2nd weekend? No. Maybe flat 2nd Sunday and a good 3rd weekend hold with Labor day weekend.

[Bob Train]

10 minutes ago, redfirebird2008 said:

 

Other countries track it, so it can be done. 

I’m pretty sure distributors do have access to that data, but it’s not in their best interest to release it usually. 

 

Sometimes they do though, for example Universal gave Nintendo reported worldwide admissions for Mario for Nintendo’s shareholder meeting iirc.

Edited August 16, 2023 by Bob Train

[MovieMan89]

Like Uni just gave Nintendo an actual worldwide admissions number for Mario for public use for N’s quarterly financial report. Did they just guesstimate using an ATP or do they have the actual data they just typically choose never to make public? 

Edited August 16, 2023 by MovieMan89

[keysersoze123]

 

nice.

 

[Bob Train]

Oppenheimer could near 725m WW by Sunday

[redfirebird2008]

38 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

 

nice.

 

Excellent. $400M for the worldwide total would have been very solid, never mind going over $400M in overseas markets alone. That’s amazing!

[keysersoze123]

Amazing thing for Oppenheimer is that it still has a long runway ahead. Let us see how legs go in korea and next week we have italy/greece and then China the week after that. Hopefully we have some early presales for Imax shows in China to gauge the interest. 

[Austin]

Does anybody else feel the urge to play Can You Hear the Music? randomly from Oppenehiemer? Its a part of the score and it lives rent free in my head. I dunno, it just elicits some inexplicable emotions that I crave whenever I play it.

Edited August 16, 2023 by Austin

[Claire of Themyscira]

3 hours ago, kayumanggi said:

DEAD RECKONING I finally ahead of SOUND OF FREEDOM.

Finally. ❤️

 

I mark it as a personal victory even though the war is lost.

[redfirebird2008]

1 hour ago, MovieMan89 said:

Like Uni just gave Nintendo an actual worldwide admissions number for Mario for public use for N’s quarterly financial report. Did they just guesstimate using an ATP or do they have the actual data they just typically choose never to make public? 

 

I tend to think it's very legit data instead of estimated stuff if it's included in quarterly financial reports for stockholders. 

[titanic2187]

8 hours ago, reddevil19 said:

Wait...what?

https://collider.com/coraline-screenings-box-office-5-million-fathom-events/

 

Quote

Fathom Events has announced in a press release today, “The acclaimed 2009 stop-motion epic was a huge box office hit for Fathom Events, LAIKA, and Park Circus this past Monday and Tuesday, grossing a combined $4.91 million in U.S. gross box office.

 

“The film was third in gross box office behind Barbie and Oppenheimer on both Monday and Tuesday but was FIRST in per screen average on both of those days ($3,000+ per screen).”

 

Quote

 

Due to demand, additional showings will take place on August 28 & August 29.

Neither BOM and the number include this $4.9m in their daily BO.

[MovieMan89]

2 hours ago, redfirebird2008 said:

 

I tend to think it's very legit data instead of estimated stuff if it's included in quarterly financial reports for stockholders. 

I’m inclined to think so too bc the number (168m I think) doesn’t line up with any ATP we typically use. More like $8 ATP. So must have been a lot of countries with significantly lower prices where it did well, and also maybe a lot of discount/non premium or 3D tix sold since it’s a family film. 

[excel1]

6 hours ago, redfirebird2008 said:

TDK sold around 70 million tickets. The average price in 2022-2023 is supposedly $10.50, so that’s how I came up with $735M. 

TDK sold more tickets than AVATAR no doubt 

 

[MovieMan89]

That Coraline number is jaw dropping. I have always maintained it is the best stop motion animated movie ever, and it’s incredible to see it have such a following all these years later. Very Nightmare Before Xmas esque