9/29-10/1 Weekend Thread

[JustLurking]

12 minutes ago, Eric the Creator said:

Also very true. I'm a big animation fan and try to catch most of them in theaters, and I always feel kind of awkward being the loner adult in an auditorium full of kids. But at least with most Pixar or Illumination movies, they are designed to be all ages things. I can't imagine all the stares I'd get being in my 20s and seeing a movie aimed only at 3 year olds. Nobody would want to do this social suicide for an Internet meme

Yeah pretty much. It's a crossover targeting...kids who are not even halfway through being old enough to see saw and torture porn fans who would sooner jump off a bridge than watch paw patrol? Like lmao

 

Studios will clearly try to make this happen again but there has to be some angle to actually sell the film to both sides other than "do it for the memes" if you want people to actually do it. Saw Patrol? Completely incompatible, not a chance in hell.

Edited September 30, 2023 by JustLurking

[WorkingonaName]

12 minutes ago, Avatree said:

Ooh, I just went to look at showtimes for Creator this evening and seen that The Exorcist is on. I've never seen it.

Does it live up to the hype of the greatest horror film of all time? Or is it dated now that its 50 years old?

Works a lot better if you're a Catholic. 

[emoviefan]

Was all hyped up about seeing the Creator but the review crash and the box office have just killed my motivation  KOTFM will be my next theater movie most likely.  Horror not my thing and the future Mrs Kelce not in that DEMO. 

[DAJK]

Not to sound like a freshman anthropology/sociology major but I think the Barbenheimer meme didn’t just hit big because of the “double feature” nature of it or how distinct the films were or how audiences COULD in theory go see both. 
 

It was a perfect storm of all those factors, but I think there was a gender aspect to it all too. A women-Centered film like Barbie and THE male film bro director going head-to-head. I think years/decades of how these demographics have been served by Hollywood played a role in its proliferation and success. Not something you could replicate with Saw Patrol or Wishpoleon. It would be like trying to replicate Black Panther culturally, or re-create Top Gun Maverick by just making a random movie about dudes in jets. 

[Cmasterclay]

I kind of get why the Creator flopped. I was thinking to see it today and I just can't make myself get to the cold ass theater for two and a half hours for this. Once I get past the actual concept of rooting for a movie like this, it just seems so boring. And if they can't get me....

[emoviefan]

1 minute ago, Cmasterclay said:

I kind of get why the Creator flopped. I was thinking to see it today and I just can't make myself get to the cold ass theater for two and a half hours for this. Once I get past the actual concept of rooting for a movie like this, it just seems so boring. And if they can't get me....

This my feelings exactly. 

[Giorno]

Gareth Edwards directing Alita 2

[Valencia]

38 minutes ago, Eric the Creator said:

Also very true. I'm a big animation fan and try to catch most of them in theaters, and I always feel kind of awkward being the loner adult in an auditorium full of kids. But at least with most Pixar or Illumination movies, they are designed to be all ages things. I can't imagine all the stares I'd get being in my 20s and seeing a movie aimed only at 3 year olds. Nobody would want to do this social suicide for an Internet meme

How would that be social suicide?

 

The strangers in the theater going to dox you and send pics of you at paw to your friends and family or something lol.

[Valonqar]

29 minutes ago, DAJK said:

Not to sound like a freshman anthropology/sociology major but I think the Barbenheimer meme didn’t just hit big because of the “double feature” nature of it or how distinct the films were or how audiences COULD in theory go see both. 
 

It was a perfect storm of all those factors, but I think there was a gender aspect to it all too. A women-Centered film like Barbie and THE male film bro director going head-to-head. I think years/decades of how these demographics have been served by Hollywood played a role in its proliferation and success. Not something you could replicate with Saw Patrol or Wishpoleon. It would be like trying to replicate Black Panther culturally, or re-create Top Gun Maverick by just making a random movie about dudes in jets. 

 

The big deliberately underrated (in media) aspect of Barbie success is that the movie didn't serve the type of heroine that's been shovelled down women's throats for almost a decade now - perpetually angry smug humorless lone wolf warrior averse to asking help or simply not needing it cause she can do everything herself better than anyone who may or may not be on a revenge path too but who certianly does not care to dress "girly" and is basically a male character played by a size 0 actress who's then going to admonish the audience for sexism if they don't find her convincing when beating men and creatures twice her size. You get the idea. That's still very much male interest and fantasy packaged under the umbrella of female empowerment. And as such it always skews heavily male audience-wise. Barbie is anti-all this BS and results are stratospheric. 

Edited September 30, 2023 by Valonqar

[The GOAT]

35 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said:

I kind of get why the Creator flopped. I was thinking to see it today and I just can't make myself get to the cold ass theater for two and a half hours for this. Once I get past the actual concept of rooting for a movie like this, it just seems so boring. And if they can't get me....

Having just watched the trailer. I must say that the kid robot makes me want to cancel my tickets,

Edited September 30, 2023 by The GOAT

[titanic2187]

https://www.thewrap.com/howls-moving-castle-gkids-fathom-events-rerelease-hayao-miyazaki/

 

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Nearly 20 years after its release, “Howl’s Moving Castle” from the legendary Hayao Miyazaki earned over $3.2 million at the North American box office via its special presentation partnership with GKids and Fathom Events.

 

The 2004 feature played as part of the annual Studio Ghibli Fest, where classic features from Japan’s Miyazaki-cofounded animation house are screened nationwide. “Howl’s Moving Castle” played in over 1,000 North American theaters Sept. 23–27 and scored the No. 3 box office position on Sept. 27. It was No. 1 in per-screen average.

 

The next Studio Ghibli Fest presentation is “Spirited Away,” which will screen Oct. 28–Nov. 1 in theaters across North America.

 

 

I wonder why the numbers is not properly reported from Fathom event. I remember GKIDS reported BO from these Ghibli fest re-release before Covid and believe me the BO were quite substantial. But they stop doing post-Covid.

[Eric the Minion]

20 minutes ago, Valonqar said:

 

The big deliberately underrated (in media) aspect of Barbie success is that the movie didn't serve the type of heroine that's been shovelled down women's throats for almost a decade now - perpetually angry smug humorless lone wolf warrior averse to asking help or simply not needing it cause she can do everything herself better than anyone who may or may not be on a revenge path too but who certianly does not care to dress "girly" and is basically a male character played by a size 0 actress who's then going to admonish the audience for sexism if they don't find her convincing when beating men and creatures twice her size. You get the idea. That's still very much male interest and fantasy packaged under the umbrella of female empowerment. And as such it always skews heavily male audience-wise. Barbie is anti-all this BS and results are stratospheric. 

Um…sure?

[CoolioD1]

I do not think either studio thought Saw Patrol is a thing people would do. Been weird seeing people get so annoyed about it.

[Youngstar]

1 hour ago, The GOAT said:

Having just watched the trailer. I must say that the kid robot makes me want to cancel my tickets,

The kid is great in the role imo.

[MovieMan89]

Welp, RIP Barbie getting that top ten DOM slot. It looked good for so long too 

[Bob Train]

2 hours ago, Eric the Creator said:

They tried to make Saw Patrol happen. I think Lionsgate and Paramount even posted their own memes, which basically killed it right there. When corporations begin a meme or try to make a trend happen, it reeks of desperation and nobody participates anymore.

No one was trying to make Saw Patrol happen. It was just a reference to the latest pop culture phenomenon (in this case Barbenheimer). Studios have been releasing family and horror movies on the same day since forever. I'm really unsure why people took it seriously.

[Asyulus]

Yeah, “Saw Patrol” does not exist.

 

Kids will not watch Saw. Adults will not watch Paw Patrol. No cross demographic occurs.

 

It’s like choosing between two doors/stalls/paths where 98% people under 18 will go to lighthearted animation, while 98% people over 18 will go to trap gore entertainment.

[YM!]

Got to say, Paw Patrol pulling near 7M OD without previews is impressive considering the audience is like preschoolers and younger kids putting Paw Patrol on the level of SpongeBob and Rugrats in their heyday. If it follows the jumps of the Cloudy movies, not only is a 25M OW in the cards but a strong change at 100M especially with nothing likely to get young kids until Trolls Band Together, a whole month and a half later. Big win for Paramount’s animation labels with this and Mutant Mayhem.

[MovieMan89]

1 hour ago, titanic2187 said:

https://www.thewrap.com/howls-moving-castle-gkids-fathom-events-rerelease-hayao-miyazaki/

 

 

I wonder why the numbers is not properly reported from Fathom event. I remember GKIDS reported BO from these Ghibli fest re-release before Covid and believe me the BO were quite substantial. But they stop doing post-Covid.

That seems like a fantastic number, I wonder if this is higher than average for the ghibli fest stuff? Bodes well for The Boy and the Heron DOM. I think that can pull off a 15-20 OW with IMAX, which would be pretty huge for an anime OW tbh. 

Edited September 30, 2023 by MovieMan89

[Liiviig 1998]

5 hours ago, Spidey Freak said:

 

Black Panther literally became such a gigantic cultural phenomenon that it created a massive change in Hollywood casting and the kind of actors and storytellers being given more opportunities, noticeable to this day. Including, you know, John David Washington in The Creator, the film that has triggered this discussion.  

Didn't say BP is not cultural phenomenon . I said none of the four A+ marvel movies have as much praise as TDK.

 

BP isn't even the highest Regarded MCU film  and yeah it's has gotten it's the " overrated" phrase  over time.

 

BP is good movie that captured the cultural zeitgeist . 

 

 Yeah we all have subjective  tastes  but For all it's high  ratings  and Oscars . It hasn't generated that type all time great CBM talk buzz .