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I am very happy that Inside Out 2 is doing well and frankly I think looking at the slate that this year will exceed 8 billion and do better than expectations. To be clear. But to quote Eric, I've never, ever seen a slate this disproportionately NTC heavy. People like the box office for different reasons, I don't think folks have to snap out of their own tastes and desires based on one Disney animated sequel doing great.

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I think Pixar's comeback is great for box office nerds.

 

Things were looking dire for a while with the direct-to-streaming fiasco. And I'm not sure how any box office nerd doesn't root for Pixar. Yeah they're sequels but some of the greatest movies are sequels (The Dark Knight, The Last Crusade, Empire Strikes Back, T2, Return of the King, Spider-man 2, etc)

 

You can't blame Pixar for going back to sequels. They tried to do originals and got punished for it.

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I've just realize that the last time an animated movie topped the domestic BO was 2010 with Toy Story 3. That's much further than I thought. Inside Out has the potential to achieve the same feat. Worldwide, it's Frozen (2013) and inside Out is also well positioned to achieve that.

 

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27 minutes ago, AniNate said:

FYI if we're gonna be pedantic about the definition of original again, The Bikeriders is based on a book

A photo book! Slightly classier and more respectable than a movie being based on an Instagram feed, I guess.

 

 

4 minutes ago, ChipDerby said:

No way! Bombs don't make their way into the "culture"! It just doesn't happen! It's not like there's a specific word we created to describe this exact thing.

There's a belief that the demise of cable/rise of streaming makes a second life for theatrical underperformers virtually impossible for 2020s movies. I think there are many ways for movies to have a second life and it's not always the movies you would have predicted anyway.

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2 minutes ago, grey ghost said:

I think Pixar's comeback is great for box office nerds.

 

Things were looking dire for a while with the direct-to-streaming fiasco. And I'm not sure how any box office nerd doesn't root for Pixar. Yeah they're sequels but some of the greatest movies are sequels (The Dark Knight, The Last Crusade, Empire Strikes Back, T2, Return of the King, Spider-man 2, etc)

 

You can't blame Pixar for going back to sequels. They tried to do originals and got punished for it.

Pixar isn't even stopping originals. Elio comes out next year and then there's another one presumably in March 2026. All before Toy Story 5 comes out, of course.

 

That said, I do in fact, resent sequelitis and the audiences that enable it.

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I’m one of those people who actually really really liked Inside Out 2 as a movie and want it to succeed. I genuinely feel it deserves this level of success 

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5 minutes ago, grey ghost said:

I think Pixar's comeback is great for box office nerds.

 

Things were looking dire for a while with the direct-to-streaming fiasco. And I'm not sure how any box office nerd doesn't root for Pixar. Yeah they're sequels but some of the greatest movies are sequels (The Dark Knight, The Last Crusade, Empire Strikes Back, T2, Return of the King, Spider-man 2, etc)

 

You can't blame Pixar for going back to sequels. They tried to do originals and got punished for it.

 

And to further your point, the new strategy of Pixar is to release 03 movies every 2 years: 1 original and 2 sequels. That seems fairly sensible to me in the current moviegoing landscape. You get to have something new every 2 years while having a sequel every year. That's a nice balance between safety and creativity. Every studio should be more like that.

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4 minutes ago, Agafin said:

I've just realize that the last time an animated movie topped the domestic BO was 2010 with Toy Story 3. That's much further than I thought. Inside Out has the potential to achieve the same feat. Worldwide, it's Frozen (2013) and inside Out is also well positioned to achieve that.

 

Before that I guess there was Shrek 2. The Lion King almost did it but was edged out by the fellow behemoth Forrest Gump in 1994. Re-releases sealed the deal for TLK of course. Not to mention the original Toy Story in 1995... Throw in Aladdin and that's all of them in the modern box office tracking era, because animation was in the gutter in the 1980s.

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God, I wake up late and I come into this forum with all this chaos. 

 

Inside Out 2 is just so damn close to hitting that $100M number and I knew Deadline was underestimating how strong Bad Boys: Ride or Die was gonna hold. If it keeps legging out, $200M is looking more and more certain. Hope it happens!

 

It is a shame at what's happening The Bikeriders though. It'll either just barely hit $10M or come in just under that number. It's not really encouraging, but this also was a film I don't think many expected to break out in a big way. 

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I will say though that we should take a moment to appreciate the fact that Luca Guadagnino and Jeff Nichols are enjoying career-best box office grosses in the same year while sharing one element. Note to auteurs looking for ways to reach mainstream-ish crowds: just cast this guy!

 

𝐆𝐎𝐃𝐃𝐄𝐒𝐒 || 𝐆𝐢𝐟 𝐇𝐮𝐧𝐭 - 𝐅𝐚𝐜𝐞 𝐂𝐥𝐚𝐢𝐦: 𝐌𝐢𝐤𝐞  𝐅𝐚𝐢𝐬𝐭! - Wattpad

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Any box office nerd or movie lover will be happy with Pixar rise imo , like I understand having differences with WDAS and Illumination but Pixar is literally gold standard.

Even their underperforming are good imo. 

I will always wonder how Soul would have done at box office

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5 minutes ago, Madhuvan said:

Any box office nerd or movie lover will be happy with Pixar rise imo , like I understand having differences with WDAS and Illumination but Pixar is literally gold standard.

Even their underperforming are good imo. 

I will always wonder how Soul would have done at box office

 

Did you just lump in WDAS with Illumination?

 

 

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13 minutes ago, grey ghost said:

I think Pixar's comeback is great for box office nerds.

 

Things were looking dire for a while with the direct-to-streaming fiasco. And I'm not sure how any box office nerd doesn't root for Pixar. Yeah they're sequels but some of the greatest movies are sequels (The Dark Knight, The Last Crusade, Empire Strikes Back, T2, Return of the King, Spider-man 2, etc)

 

You can't blame Pixar for going back to sequels. They tried to do originals and got punished for it.

 

Honestly, I do think Pixar has a legitimate chance to make a strong comeback. More so than even the gargantuan numbers for Inside Out 2 right now, the insanely leggy run of Elemental last year shows that they can still make at least a semi-successful original that can break even quickly in post-theatrical revenue streams. 

 

Though they have Toy Story 5 coming out in June 2026, they still got Elio in 2025 and another original film before TS5. If there's anything that both Elemental's comeback and Inside Out 2's massive instant success show to Pixar and Disney is that they have a way to make money from both an original and a sequel. It allows them to take risks while also releasing stuff that will guarantee make a profit. 

 

Thankfully, Pixar isn't going to be giving up on originals. There's still gonna be sequels, but I expect to see a decent balance of both. 

 

Unlike Walt Disney Animation Studios (which will be prioritizing only sequels for the next three years and image was hurt by the reception to films like Wish), they have a chance to build back their image and power as a brand.

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Just now, TalismanRing said:

 

Did you just lump in WDAS with Illumination?

 

 

I mean atleast lately Illumination movies are fun to watch. WDAS is serving so much snooze but I am hopeful for Zootopia 2. Love the first one so much. 

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Here is a chart I made (2nd weekend USA adjusted for inflation, based on the-numbers.com)

 

NR

FILM

ADJ INFLATION

1

Star Wars Ep. VII: The Force Awakens

190,7919336

2

Avengers: Endgame

173,4450218

3

The Avengers

139,5603719

4

Jurassic World

136,2909134

5

Avengers: Infinity War

135,809067

6

Spider-Man

132,5086506

7

Black Panther

132,1265906

8

Shrek 2

125,2806119

9

The Dark Knight

112,853688

10

Harry Potter and the Sorcerer’s Stone

109,4893746

11

Star Wars Ep. I: The Phantom Menace

109,0711063

12

Avatar

108,6868347

13

Beauty and the Beast

108,6652843

14

How the Grinch Stole Christmas

104,236

15

Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man’s …

102,5992672

16

Frozen II

101,1825393

17

Jurassik Park

100,133

18

Avengers: Age of Ultron

99,4189656

19

The Hunger Games: Catching Fire

98,35788684

20

Iron Man 3

96,15813038

21

Incredibles 2

95,07581339

22

Barbie

93,011

23

Star Wars Ep. III: Revenge of the Sith

92,84085803

24

The Passion of the Christ

92,43025443

25

The Super Mario Bros. Movie

92,34

26

Top Gun: Maverick

92,17463058

27

Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire

92,03698284

28

Spider-Man 3

91,13800581

29

Finding Dory

90,92462659

30

The Lord of the Rings: The Two Towers

90,68373494

31

Captain America: Civil War

90,52333642

32

Twister

90,47

33

The Lord of the Rings: The Return of …

90,45546269

34

The Lion King

90,17187555

35

Spider-Man: No Way Home

89,61921731

36

Frozen

89,35731611

37

Star Wars Ep. II: Attack of the Clones

88,83759036

38

The Incredibles

87,23120451

39

Monsters, Inc.

86,75614488

40

Star Wars Ep. VIII: The Last Jedi

86,00565217

41

Independence Day

 

42

Alice in Wonderland

85,68528771

43

Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker

85,1914214

44

The Dark Knight Rises

84,10160553

45

Finding Nemo

83,28846103

46

Shrek the Third

83,10471221

47

Batman

81,25

48

Toy Story 3

81,0713384

49

The Lost World - Jurassic Park

80,125

50

Captain Marvel

80,0120786

 

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