Jay Beezy Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Jason Segel, Paul Rudd,etc are not stars. The sooner Hollywood understands that, the better. They work in an ensamble but they are not leads. Nothing wrong with that. It`s funny how many suppoerting actors waste their careers trying and failing to lead.Sometimes those actors work better when they pair up with a male costar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishstick Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Sometimes those actors work better when they pair up with a male costar.Jonah Hill is making a nice career out of double-act. he&Cera, he&Brad,he&Channing. Nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Beezy Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Jonah Hill is making a nice career out of double-act. he&Cera, he&Brad,he&Channing. Nice.That's who I was thinking of when I wrote that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Nevada Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Now we just wait for he&Chastain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Beezy Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Now we just wait for he&Chastain Yeesh.When we're referring to him as a double act, we mean when he pairs up with a male costar. Him and Chastain would make him a romantic lead which would just not work, and that romantic pairing just weirds me out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Sometimes those actors work better when they pair up with a male costar.True. Rudd and Segel worked great together in ILYM. Definitely one of the best they've both done imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Nevada Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 I was kidding, but wouldn't a fat Jonah Hill and Chastain make for a hilariously awkward romantic couple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Jason Segel, Paul Rudd,etc are not stars. The sooner Hollywood understands that, the better. They work in an ensamble but they are not leads. Nothing wrong with that. It`s funny how many suppoerting actors waste their careers trying and failing to lead.See, I agree with this to a point, but as you know fish, there really aren't many true stars anymore. How many people really open a film on name alone? Sandler, Smith (although he hasn't made a film for about 75 years now it seems) Denzel, Streep and who? Who can open a film on name alone? Stallone, The Rock, Clooney, Willis, Tatum? Maybe but not sure. So Hollywood has to continue taking risks with projects like this. Short of putting an ensemble together every single film, stuff like this is bound to happen from time to time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatebox Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 People go to see characters now, not stars. And that's probably a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgold Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 I'm not surprised Think Like A Man will be number 1 again this week. Watched it last week and it was tonnes of fun. I can see it getting good word of mouth. Not surprised 5 Year Engagement is underperforming (for now) because the TV ads were pretty uninteresting and with TLAM dominating the comedic audience and The Lucky One eating away at the romantics, I don't think it's a good time for this release because the TV ads didn't imply that there was a lot of bawdiness like Bridesmaids or anything to differentiate itself. In fact, my main surprise is that it's doing a bit better (for now) than the Mandy Moore/John Krasinski License to Wed. I can't see it having better legs though, not with the Summer season starting with the Avengers and every movie hitting after that being a big one which will need the theatre seats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgold Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 See, I agree with this to a point, but as you know fish, there really aren't many true stars anymore. How many people really open a film on name alone? Sandler, Smith (although he hasn't made a film for about 75 years now it seems) Denzel, Streep and who? Who can open a film on name alone? Stallone, The Rock, Clooney, Willis, Tatum? Maybe but not sure. So Hollywood has to continue taking risks with projects like this. Short of putting an ensemble together every single film, stuff like this is bound to happen from time to time.Certain actors can open certain types of films. Almost none can open a romantic drama really well. They often get killed by critics and audiences don't seem to appreciate them as much anymore. Will Smith of the past seems to be the only actor that could open most genres well enough. I think MIB will do relatively well and his kid's stuff has done well too so I think he's still the number 1 box office draw at this moment. It could change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJohn Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 (edited) See, I agree with this to a point, but as you know fish, there really aren't many true stars anymore. How many people really open a film on name alone? Sandler, Smith (although he hasn't made a film for about 75 years now it seems) Denzel, Streep and who? Who can open a film on name alone? Stallone, The Rock, Clooney, Willis, Tatum? Maybe but not sure. So Hollywood has to continue taking risks with projects like this. Short of putting an ensemble together every single film, stuff like this is bound to happen from time to time.Robert Downey Jr, Leonardo DiCaprio, Brad Pitt and Johnny Depp are also big stars. Edited April 28, 2012 by CJohn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishstick Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 (edited) I get what you are saying baumer but there are names that simply don`t attract big crowds although they are supposed to. Segel/Rudd pairing still didn`t go bananas like some other actor pairings. people like what people like and don`t care for whom they don`t care. They want to see Vin and Dwayne in the same movie. Boom. They paired them in Fast Five and the result was through the roof. They don`t care for segel and Rudd separately or together so their pairing didn`t go 21 Jump Street. Etc. Edited April 28, 2012 by fishnets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Robert Downey Jr, Leonardo DiCaprio, Brad Pitt and Johnny Depp are also big stars.Yes, good examples. Leo is probably the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishstick Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Leo and Brad are also the only of the biggies that don`t have a franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Leo and Brad are also the only of the biggies that don`t have a franchise.You make some very good points and I do agree with you. I think Segal and Rudd are excellent together and as part of a bigger ensemble. I love Rudd, I think he's one of if not the funniest guy working today. He just cracks me up. But his films don't seem to attract a sizable audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJohn Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Jason Segel was a bit limp in THE FIVE-YEAR ENGAGEMENT as it finished third with $3.5 mil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudolf Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Today franchises are what yesterday used to be the stars, and the advantage for the studios is that you can own the franchise rights. They used to own the stars as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magic Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 Jason Segel was a bit limp in THE FIVE-YEAR ENGAGEMENT as it finished third with $3.5 mil. Dropped again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishstick Posted April 28, 2012 Share Posted April 28, 2012 (edited) You make some very good points and I do agree with you. I think Segal and Rudd are excellent together and as part of a bigger ensemble. I love Rudd, I think he's one of if not the funniest guy working today. He just cracks me up. But his films don't seem to attract a sizable audience.The thing is no one really knows why this guys attracts the audience and that guy doesn`t. In most cases, it isn`t even down to movie quality or appeal of the character. It`s just something that can`t be measured by polls,google searches, twitter trending, fangirl screaming,etc. Edited April 28, 2012 by fishnets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
