JAPAN BOX OFFICE | Demon Slayer breaks all time record for OW

[mfantin65]

Path to 300

There has been a lot of talk about whether or not Frozen could "catch up" to SA. Summer vs. spring is not a fair comparison. I found that one week of summer equals two weeks of non summer for the box office in general or for an individual movie as the midweek can be triple. E=mc2. Light is constant but mass varies. We cant compare energies/BO with the same constant/week time and different masses/moviegoers. Its like filling 2 pools, one with a fire hose for 7 weeks while the other gets a fire hose for 2 weeks and a garden hose for 5 and saying one cant catch up. GW evens the score with and both will have garden hoses going forward, I hear American hoses are larger than Asian hoses, so advantage frozen.   Week 8- SA compared to week 10-Frozen will create an apple to apple comparison, Fuji vs. Macintosh. Both will have finished their summer/SB/holiday periods with similar ticket sales/burn off. Both will face little competition for people/seats/screens for the next several weeks. Then FR enters summer and Obon, SA enters December and New Years. It will be easy to track the strides side by side on the path to 300.

 

This projection is with 15% average drops (5-20% drops applied randomly) after GW which has yet to materialize in the run. At 10% or less and a 100% hold here or there and it climbs to 300m+.

Spirited Away numbers have been converted to current exchange rate.

 

With the way Frozen has performed I see it keeping pace with SA and I'm calling it a lock, I just don't see it "crashing" like HMC.

 

#   Howl's MC  Spirited Away Frozen
WE Week TOT   WE   Week TOT   MW WE   Week   TOT
1 13.988  13.998 13.998 7.531 9.731   9.731
2 11.680  20.400 44.430  11.300  8.550  19.800 29.535
3 9.832  21.400 65.878   10.000  10.000 10.000   13.400  8.569  22.000 51.579
4  9.165  15.400 81.210 9.500 32.000 42.000   15.300  8.200 23.500 75.100
5 8.100  15.800 97.000 8.700 29.500 71.500    7.800  8.200 16.000 90.600
6  7.400  15.000  112.000 9.200  34.500  106.000    5.900 8.300  14.000  104.800
7 6.866  13.700  125.703 8.700  24.500  130.500 6.500  7.700 13.400  118.400
8 6.171  20.100  145.795 8.800  16.200  146.700   14.100 10.800 24.900 144.400
9  3.367 8.800  154.556 6.700  22.200  167.100 15.500  7.500  23.000  167.400 Summer/GW Over
10 2.323 5.300  159.840 6.800  15.100  181.200  5.800  6.800  12.600  178.900 Leg battle!

11 2.464 3.500  163.425 6.400  13.100  194.300  5.000  6.000 11.000  189.800
12 1.817 2.800  166.170 5.000 12.500  205.800  4.500  5.500  10.000  199.800
13 1.812 4.000  170.218 4.300  11.000  216.800 3.700  4.400 8.100  207.900 Oct/June
14 1.219 2.300  172.561 3.900 6.500  223.300 3.300  3.800 7.100  215.000

15 1.090 1.500  174.104 2.600 4.400  227.700 2.800  3.200 6.000  221.000

16   2.600 4.700  232.400 2.600 3.000 5.600  226.600

17   3.200 5.900  238.300  2.300  2.700 5.000  231.600 Nov/July

18   2.900  5.900  244.200 2.000  2.400 4.400  236.000

19   1.900  3.900  248.100 4.000  2.300 6.300  242.300 Summer FR

20   1.800  3.200  251.300  3.600  2.100 5.700  248.000 

21   2.500 3.800  255.100 3.200  1.800 5.000  253.000 December SA

22   1.500 3.200 258.200  2.800  1.600 4.400  257.400

23 1.100 2.100 260.300  3.500 2.500 6.000  263.400 Obon FR

Extended Run   190.000 Extended Run  294.000 Extended Run   300.000  

Edited May 8, 2014 by mfantin65

[zackzack]

This never-ending run of FROZEN in Japan is astonishing. There should be a college course that analyzes why & how this movie kills at the box office. Seriously $200M in Japan?

[catlover]

That is surprisingly strange. None of the Ice Age films did well in Japan, but they didn't even bother releasing the 4th one? But yeah, basically the Japanese don't watch foreign animated films except for Disney/Pixar. The highest-grossing non-Disney/Pixar foreign animated film is Madagascar 3 at $25.6M.

 

That's actually not unusual. Many Hollywood movies didn't get theatrical releases, especially comedy and sometimes animated films. For example, The Croods wasn't released in Japan.

[Hernan Gonzalez]

 

 

#   Howl's MC  Spirited Away Frozen

WE Week TOT   WE   Week TOT   MW WE   Week   TOT

9  3.367 8.800  154.556 6.700  22.200  167.100 15.500  7.500  23.000  166.300 Summer/GW Over

 

 

If Frozen did $7m+ today (Monday) and for tomorrow (Tuesday) a lot of shows are already sold out, don't you think it should do so much more than $15.5m this week? When does Golden Week end?

[superstancer]

demographic for Frozen movie in japan ????

[BadAtGender]

demographic for Frozen movie in japan ????

 

Probably just about everyone, given the business. Films don't get this large unless they appeal across the board.

[rhfqkddl45]

Monday 5/5 24:30 Update

 

Biggest Day Ever !!!  

 

 

                            5/3 (Sat)           5/4 (Sun)         5/5 (mon)

 

Toho                     82492                  96537              117474

 

Kinezo                  19547              23472               31412

 

*Total                 102,039            120,009          148,886  

 

-TASM2 TOHO - 29947 *est $2m

 

 

* Sing-Along [Toho] - 16315 / 18697.... 87% Saturation

 

*Total [Toho] - 117474 / 156433....  75% Saturation

[cremino]

If Frozen did $7m+ today (Monday) and for tomorrow (Tuesday) a lot of shows are already sold out, don't you think it should do so much more than $15.5m this week? When does Golden Week end?

I think tomorrow is the last day

[edroger3]

Path to 300

There has been a lot of talk about whether or not Frozen could "catch up" to SA. Summer vs. spring is not a fair comparison. I found that one week of summer equals two weeks of non summer for the box office in general or for an individual movie as the midweek can be triple. E=mc2. Light is constant but mass varies. We cant compare energies/BO with the same constant/week time and different masses/moviegoers. Its like filling 2 pools, one with a fire hose for 7 weeks while the other gets a fire hose for 2 weeks and a garden hose for 5 and saying one cant catch up. GW evens the score with and both will have garden hoses going forward, I hear American hoses are larger than Asian hoses, so advantage frozen.   Week 8- SA compared to week 10-Frozen will create an apple to apple comparison, Fuji vs. Macintosh. Both will have finished their summer/SB/holiday periods with similar ticket sales/burn off. Both will face little competition for people/seats/screens for the next several weeks. Then FR enters summer and Obon, SA enters December and New Years. It will be easy to track the strides side by side on the path to 300.

 

This projection is with 15% average drops (5-20% drops applied randomly) after GW which has yet to materialize in the run. At 10% or less and a 100% hold here or there and it climbs to 300m+.

Spirited Away numbers have been converted to current exchange rate.

 

With the way Frozen has performed I see it keeping pace with SA and I'm calling it a lock, I just don't see it "crashing" like HMC.

 

#   Howl's MC  Spirited Away Frozen

WE Week TOT   WE   Week TOT   MW WE   Week   TOT

1 13.988  13.998 13.998 7.531 9.731   9.731

2 11.680  20.400 44.430  11.300  8.550  19.800 29.535

3 9.832  21.400 65.878   10.000  10.000 10.000   13.400  8.569  22.000 51.579

4  9.165  15.400 81.210 9.500 32.000 42.000   15.300  8.200 23.500 75.100

5 8.100  15.800 97.000 8.700 29.500 71.500    7.800  8.200 16.000 90.600

6  7.400  15.000  112.000 9.200  34.500  106.000    5.900 8.300  14.000  104.800

7 6.866  13.700  125.703 8.700  24.500  130.500 6.500  7.700 13.400  118.400

8 6.171  20.100  145.795 8.800  16.200  146.700   14.100 10.800 24.900 143.300

9  3.367 8.800  154.556 6.700  22.200  167.100 15.500  7.500  23.000  166.300 Summer/GW Over

10 2.323 5.300  159.840 6.800  15.100  181.200  5.800  6.800  12.600  178.900 Leg battle!

11 2.464 3.500  163.425 6.400  13.100  194.300  5.000  6.000 11.000  189.800

12 1.817 2.800  166.170 5.000 12.500  205.800  4.500  5.500  10.000  199.800

13 1.812 4.000  170.218 4.300  11.000  216.800 3.700  4.400 8.100  207.900 Oct/June

14 1.219 2.300  172.561 3.900 6.500  223.300 3.300  3.800 7.100  215.000

15 1.090 1.500  174.104 2.600 4.400  227.700 2.800  3.200 6.000  221.000

16   2.600 4.700  232.400 2.600 3.000 5.600  226.600

17   3.200 5.900  238.300  2.300  2.700 5.000  231.600 Nov/July

18   2.900  5.900  244.200 2.000  2.400 4.400  236.000

19   1.900  3.900  248.100 4.000  2.300 6.300  242.300 Summer FR

20   1.800  3.200  251.300  3.600  2.100 5.700  248.000 

21   2.500 3.800  255.100 3.200  1.800 5.000  253.000 December SA

22   1.500 3.200 258.200  2.800  1.600 4.400  257.400

23 1.100 2.100 260.300  3.500 2.500 6.000  263.400 Obon FR

Extended Run   190.000 Extended Run  294.000 Extended Run   300.000  

Fantastic table! (please send email to ray subers). 15.500 in 9th midweek is understimated: if crazy presales for tomorrow morning and afternoon are confirmed for evening (i hope), could be 15000+ in two days (and kinezo is very very high today, tohox should increase).

[catlover]

How about another cockamamie theory as to why Frozen is doing well or not well in some areas: maybe the more introverted people in a society, the more Frozen is doing well? Maybe, just maybe, Elsa's "conceal don't feel" depression resonates with a lot of people? I just can't imagine Frozen in the same league as Ghibli movies. There's got to be a reason why it's exploding as it is now. I mean, destroying 8th week records? Wow.

 

This never-ending run of FROZEN in Japan is astonishing. There should be a college course that analyzes why & how this movie kills at the box office. Seriously $200M in Japan?

 

Honestly I don't how it became this big. I mean, I've given many factors that might have made Frozen a huge success in Japan, but those are only able to get it to $100m or so, not $200m. I understand why Spirited Away made that much. Titanic and Harry Potter are bigger phenomenons worldwide, and they performed similarly in other countries, so I get that too. But Frozen? It's still a mystery for me.

Edited May 5, 2014 by catlover

[SamComedian]

 148,886, is it more than $7 million?

 

 

 

Edited May 5, 2014 by SamComedian

[Hernan Gonzalez]

Fantastic table! (please send email to ray subers). 15.500 in 9th midweek is understimated: if crazy presales for tomorrow morning and afternoon are confirmed for evening (i hope), could be 15000+ in two days (and kinezo is very very high today, tohox should increase).

 

Think big mfantin!! Think BIG!!!!     

[mfantin65]

If Frozen did $7m+ today (Monday) and for tomorrow (Tuesday) a lot of shows are already sold out, don't you think it should do so much more than $15.5m this week? When does Golden Week end?

I am thinking tomorrow drops to 6 or less based on last year, late afternoon-eve could be weaker. I did estimate a little low for the midweek though, just in case tohox is off and wed-fri crash. could be as high as 18.5m if tomorrow holds like today and wed-fri hold well. 

Edited May 5, 2014 by mfantin65

[rhfqkddl45]

 148,886, is it more than $7 million?

 

 

 

I think $7m~7.6m

 

*mfantin65 estimate 7.0 - 7.7m 

[edroger3]

Presales in 11 tokio cinemas (the same of past two days) are very high on morning and afternoon: 26/38 soldout or near (average +90%), 6/38 average +75% and 6/38 average +30%. On evening there are less shows (17 vs 26 today) but was all small screen: at the moment 2/17 +80% 2/17 +50% and 13/17 -50% (some of this still empty). I think 95/105k if evening isn't so weak.

[mfantin65]

Fantastic table! (please send email to ray subers). 15.500 in 9th midweek is understimated: if crazy presales for tomorrow morning and afternoon are confirmed for evening (i hope), could be 15000+ in two days (and kinezo is very very high today, tohox should increase).

I sent it to subers 2 weeks ago. he said it was "all speculation".

[SamComedian]

Why the Title "Frozen" in Japan is "Anna and the Snow Queen"? Why they changed the title?

 

 

[Murgatroyd]

Why the Title "Frozen" in Japan is "Anna and the Snow Queen"? Why they changed the title?

 

For one thing, the single-word adjective title simply doesn't translate well.  For another, one of the big draws is the "double heroine"*, and this title reflects that.

 

*That exact English phrase appears in quite a lot of Japanese discussion of the film.

[celticmoon]

Why the Title "Frozen" in Japan is "Anna and the Snow Queen"? Why they changed the title?

 

I believe Anna and the Snow Queen was actually the working title for the film. So they actually basically left the title as is. It was the US and other western releases that got the "changed" title, if we're being technical.

 

Other than that, though, Japan has rarely kept those one-word titles that seem to be trending at Disney/Pixar lately. Ratatouille, Enchanted, Up, Tangled, Brave... All of these have received more descriptive titles in Japan, usually with the name of the protagonist, followed by "and the...." As Murgatroyd points out, the single-word titles rarely, if ever, translate well into Japanese.

Edited May 5, 2014 by celticmoon

[Omni]

More than 700.000.000 yen in just 1 day. Mindblowing.

6M or so today would be more than satisfying.

 

Will we ever discover what's the current toho:actual ratio?