Aristis Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 24.07. - 28.07. 1 1.834.892 -28 5.087.788 2 The Lion King 2 317.359 +14 3.736.201 5 Toy Story 4 3 253.097 -10 2.624.771 4 SM:FFH 4 176.391 --- 176.391 1 Crawl 5 108.555 -27 687.316 3 Annabelle 3 6 104.551 -9 540.723 3 Anna 7 83.893 -6 204.271 2 Glam Girls 8 75.211 --- 75.211 1 The Operative 9 68.355 +14 284.079 3 Premiere de la classe 10 68.296 -1 507.811 4 Yesterday This WE is all about TLK again! It's 2nd WE would still be the 4th bigges OW of the year (18k behind Serial (Bad) Wedding 2), bigger than the OW of the biggest other Disney remake (AiW, 1,42M) and bigger than the lifetim of the four lowest remakes (above Cinderella, 1,72M). It's easily the biggest 2nd of the year passing A:EG (1,51M/4,86M cume) and the biggest since SW7 (1,97M/5,77M). The total is more than 5M already which is bigger than any of the remakes and (according to InsideKino) TLK is just the 6th movie to have more than 5M in 12 days (only the 2nd non french movie after SW7). OD OW OWeek Total Multipler TLK 0,630 2,559 3,253 8,500 x3,32 Alice 0,252 1,418 1,600 4,537 x3,20 TJB 0,278 1,090 1,303 3,720 x3,41 BATB 0,269 1,143 1,282 3,568 x3,12 Aladdin 0,078 0,471 0,563 2,500 x5,31 Dumbo 0,085 0,470 0,551 2,400 x5,11 Maleficent 0,086 0,548 0,628 2,047 x3,74 Cinderella 0,086 0,573 0,636 1,722 x3,01 OZ 0,124 0,633 0,788 1,590 x2,51 MP 0,044 0,293 0,390 1,535 x5,24 Nutcracker 0,049 0,229 0,255 0,802 x3,50 It didn't take long to get to the top of the list, now it'll try to be twice the 2nd. TLK should (at least) be close to 6,5M next WE. 8,5M+ ($65M) is safe and 9M ($70M) a good possibility. TS4 was a good 2nd increasing over last week. OD OW OWeek Total Multipler Toy Story 1 0,100 0,444 0,497 2,760 x6,22 Toy Story 2 0,145 0,747 0,927 4,530 x6,06 Toy Story 3 0,390 1,057 1,277 4,363 x4,13 Toy Story 4 0,306 1,100 1,506 4,600 x4,18 I think it'll become the biggest of the series at 4,6M+. In third position SM:FFH secured itself a 3M+ finish with a small drop. It'll be just the 9th MCU movie to get there and the 3rd of 2019 (behind A:EG 6,81M and CM 3,37M). It passed its predecessor SM:H (2,31M) last week. At the moment it's just slightly behind CM (192k/-38%/2,68M) and could pass Marvels first female SH-Solo. With a few more good drops it will get to 3,25M. Top10 2019: 1 6.813.581 Avengers: Endgame 2 6.703.714 Serial (Bad) Wedding 2 3 5.087.788 The Lion King 4 3.736.201 Toy Story 4 5 3.371.151 Captain Marvel 6 3.367.445 HTTYD3 7 2.770.703 Little White Lies 2 8 2.624.771 Spider-Man: Far From Home 9 2.392.407 Aladdin 10 2.384.509 Dumbo TLK will be first in its 4th WE at least. Aladdin passed Dumbo (again ) and still had 27k. After all it could get to 2,5M. http://www.insidekino.com/BO/F2019.htm http://www.jpbox-office.com/classfr.php?idsem=2587 8 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted July 29, 2019 Share Posted July 29, 2019 (edited) Prior to the release I thought this might be helpful - now it's probably not really WE TLK Alice* TJB BATB Aladdin Dumbo Maleficent 1st 2,559M --- 2,559M 1,418M --- 1,418M 1,090M --- 1,090M 1,143M --- 1,143M 471k --- 471k 470k --- 470k 548k --- 548k 2nd 1,835M -28% 5,088M 990k -30% 2,590M 710k -35% 2,013M 584k -49% 1,866M 513k +9% 1,076M 403k -14% 954k 240k -56% 868k 3rd 585k -41% 3,300M 431k -39% 2,588M 311k -47% 2,296M 331k -35% 1,464M 320k -21% 1,399M 153k -36% 1,112M 4th 390k -33% 3,750M 270k -37% 2,901M 281k -10% 2,712M 187k -44% 1,813M 184k -42% 1,719M 106k -31% 1,256M 5th 210k -46% 4,005M 187k -31% 3,117M 212k -25% 3,050M 104k -44% 1,945M 208k +13% 2,004M 181k +70% 1,470M 6th 140k -34% 4,170M 108k -42% 3,289M 127k -40% 3,221M 117k +12% 2,089M 116k -44% 2,157M 122k -32% 1,685M 7th 80k -42% 4,265M 79k -27% 3,380M 69k -45% 3,347M 77k -34% 2,231M 73k -37% 2,241M 88k -28% 1,823M 4,537M 3,720M 3,568M 2,500M 2,400M 2,047M Those are the remakes above 2M. For Alice I just knew weekly data but my should be at least *close*. At least it shows that TLK is huge... Edited July 29, 2019 by Aristis 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linkinitouille Posted August 2, 2019 Share Posted August 2, 2019 OD July 31 Movie Admissions Cinemas The Secret Life of Pets 2 181,590 (incl. 36,587 previews) 767 Midsommar 10,476 197 Mon frère 9,951 (previews included) 136 Could you ever forgive me? 7,896 176 Strong start for Pets 2 but inferior to Pets 1 (182k vs 210k). Other releases do not go far. But on Wednesday, TLK is still in front of Pets 2. Pets 2 could join the top 50 best opening not at #1. Here's some numbers for previous Illumination movies: Minions (2015) Pets 1 (2016) Sing (2017) Despicable Me 3 (2017) The Grinch (2018) Admissions Multiplier Admissions Multiplier Admissions Multiplier Admissions Multiplier Admissions Multiplier OD 596,291 x11.05 210,227 x17.82 166,901 x21.13 455,713 x12.37 147,496 x16.02 OW 1,765,000 x3.73 821,269 x4.56 755,876 x4.67 1,393,957 x4.04 547,494 x4.32 OWeek 2,180,461 x3.02 1,093,363 x3.42 805,197 x4.38 1,756,100 x3.21 581,114 x4.07 Total 6,588,715 - 3,745,575 - 3,526,954 - 5,637,548 - 2,362,574 - OW would be around 750k, OWeek around 900k, final score between 2.7 and 3.1M. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted August 6, 2019 Share Posted August 6, 2019 (edited) 31.07. - 04.08. 1 949.599 -48 6.593.090 3 The Lion King 2 516.201 --- 516.201 1 Pets 2 3 145.162 -43 2.849.835 5 SM:FFH 4 125.223 -61 3.953.994 6 Toy Story 4 5 91.273 -48 316.711 2 Crawl 6 70.625 -35 797.777 4 Annabelle 3 7 47.771 -43 277.038 3 The Hustle 8 47.622 -54 616.904 4 Anna 9 45.461 --- 45.461 1 Midsommar 10 40.496 --- 40.496 1 Mon frere TLK takes first place again and its 3rd WE would still have been the fifth biggest OW for the Disney remakes. With this drop it's still looking at around 8,5M admissions ($65M+). Pets2 opens 37% below its predecessor, which is quite good compared to other countries (but rather bad after its big OD). With a multipler like the first it'd get to 2,35M so it should aim for at least 2,25M. SM:FFH will still try to reach GOTG2 (3,22M) though 3,15M is a safer bet. TS4 had a big drop this WE and reaching TS2 (4,53) and TS3 (4,36) isn't certain anymore. It should get very close though anywhere at 4,25M+. Top10 2019: 1 6.818.081 Avengers: Endgame 2 6.703.714 Serial (Bad) Wedding 2 3 6.593.090 The Lion King 4 3.953.994 Toy Story 4 5 3.371.151 Captain Marvel 6 3.367.445 HTTYD3 7 2.849.835 Spider-Man: Far From Home 8 2.776.665 Little White Lies 2 9 2.412.607 Aladdin 10 2.384.545 Dumbo TLK will become the biggest movie of the year this WE. http://www.insidekino.com/BO/F2019.htm http://www.jpbox-office.com/classfr.php?idsem=2588 Edited August 6, 2019 by Aristis 5 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linkinitouille Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 (edited) OD August 7 Movie Admissions Cinemas Fast & Furious: Hobbs & Shaw 296,661 (incl. 78,509 in previews) 809 C'est quoi cette mamie?! 95,626 (incl. 22,275 in previews) 425 Playmobil: The Movie 53,479 (incl. 14,371 in previews) 604 Beanpole 4,349 61 Never Grow Old 3,017 (incl. 463 in previews) 75 F&F:H&S leads with a very strong start, a bit lower than F8. It will go well above 1M in opening weekend and finally TLK will be dethroned after three weeks of dominance. French comedy C'est quoi cette mamie?! starts twice as strong as its predecessor C'est quoi cette famille?! which released in 2016. It could be the first french movie to cross 1M admissions at the end of its theatrical run since Nous finirons ensemble which was released in May. Playmobil is failing when seeing its wide release. The numbers are on par with The Lego Movie 2 and will probably stop its run around 500k admissions. The competition is really harsh with TLK, Pets 2 and TS4. Here's some numbers for previous Fast & Furious movies: Fast & Furious (2009) Fast Five (2011) Fast & Furious 6 (2013) Furious 7 (2015) The Fate of the Furious (2017) Admissions Multiplier Admissions Multiplier Admissions Multiplier Admissions Multiplier Admissions Multiplier OD 203,959 x8.88 251,889 x9.99 323,760 x9.25 357,566 x12.97 312,235 x12.29 OW 836,203 x2.17 1,041,562 x2.42 1,330,045 x2.25 1,707,264 x2.72 1,410,345 x2.72 OWeek 1,020,741 x1.78 1,179,765 x2.13 1,546,806 x1.94 2,158,508 x2.15 1,861,108 x2.06 Total 1,811,984 - 2,517,576 - 2,994,362 - 4,637,718 - 3,838,447 - Fast & Furious movies usually double their OWeek. OWeek should be around 1.5M for a final score around 3M. However, all F&F movies since 2009 released in April or May. This is the first F&F movie since Tokyo Drift in 2006 to release in the summer holidays. Edited August 8, 2019 by Linkinitouille 7 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted August 8, 2019 Share Posted August 8, 2019 Seeing the updates on this thread is always a pleasure. Filled with awesome detailed charts! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linkinitouille Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 07.08. - 11.08. 1 897.903 --- 897.903 1 Hobbs & Shaw 2 704.320 -26 7.657.283 4 The Lion King 3 394.734 -24 1.105.615 2 Pets 2 4 315.471 --- 315.471 1 ... cette mamie?! 5 132.987 --- 132.987 1 Playmobil 6 110.094 -12 4.122.478 7 Toy Story 4 7 99.468 -31 3.003.374 6 SM:FFH 8 52.251 -43 401.733 3 Crawl 9 47.000* +09 1.453.882 10 Parasite 10 44.726 -37 868.805 5 Annabelle 3 Hobbs & Shaw takes first place and logically dethrones TLK. However it's the lowest OW for the franchise since Fast & Furious (2009). Still a good score for a spinoff, but it might only go up to 2.5M - we'll see how the summer legs will keep up. TLK is now officially the box office #1 of 2019 in France with more than 7.6M admissions. It really dominates the competition and the movie is on its way to the famed 10M admissions mark that the original 1994 animated feature has managed to do. The last movie to have crossed that 10M bar was SW7. Pets 2 crosses the 1M mark easily and will keep racking up admissions for the entire month of August like every family-friendly movie. 2M+ will be done by the end of the month before going back to school. C'est quoi cette mamie ?! is heading to become the french summer comedy. 1M seems definitely possible. Playmobil confirms it's failure, despite being screened in 600+ cinemas. It should not go higher than 400k and will have its number of screenings drastically reduced. The market was already saturated, and the movie is followed closely by TS4 which is in its 7th week. TS4 also shows signs of stability after its huge drop last week due to the arrival of Pets 2. SM:FFH has crossed 3M and can still overtake GOTG2. Crawl will end its career around 500k, Annabelle 3 will struggle to reach 1M, while Parasite, in its 10th week (and having benefitted from a french dub starting from last week), is heading for 1.5M+. Last time a Palme d'Or went that high, was with The Class (Entre les murs) back in 2008. Top10 2019: 1 7.657.283 The Lion King 2 6.818.081 Avengers: Endgame 3 6.703.714 Serial (Bad) Weddings 2 4 4.122.478 Toy Story 4 5 3.371.151 Captain Marvel 6 3.367.445 HTTYD3 7 3.003.374 Spider-Man: Far From Home 8 2.776.665 Little White Lies 2 9 2.427.907 Aladdin 10 2.384.545 Dumbo TLK is now the #1 and will probably not be dethroned until the end of the year, unless Frozen 2 or a smashing french hit at the end of the year takes over but the probability is low. http://www.insidekino.com/BO/F2019.htm http://www.jpbox-office.com/classfr.php?idsem=2589 6 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 50 minutes ago, Linkinitouille said: TLK is now officially the box office #1 of 2019 in France with more than 7.6M admissions. It really dominates the competition and the movie is on its way to the famed 10M admissions mark that the original 1994 animated feature has managed to do. The last movie to have crossed that 10M bar was SW7. It's crazy to think about it, but 10M is really looking good. France is one of the craziest countries for that movie... So Thursday is a holiday apparantly. TLK should have a good hold and should be around 8,4M already - it could approach 8,5M+. So it'll get to $75M to $80M. Just crazy high... 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XXR & Friends Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 3 hours ago, Aristis said: It's crazy to think about it, but 10M is really looking good. France is one of the craziest countries for that movie... So Thursday is a holiday apparantly. TLK should have a good hold and should be around 8,4M already - it could approach 8,5M+. So it'll get to $75M to $80M. Just crazy high... It seems France and the Netherlands are the biggest overperformers in Europe, with Spain and Portugal close by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Linkinitouille Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 (edited) Well the original TLK is the biggest Disney movie from recent box-office history (post-1990). It didn't have multiple careers over decades like Snow White, Jungle Book or Cinderella. TLK was also the peak of Disney Renaissance, and had an incredible influence over an entire generation. The Timon & Pumbaa animated series was also a huge success here. That remake was miles ahead of Aladdin and Dumbo in terms of popularity and hype. France is nearly always welcoming for Disney animated movies, even though the mid-2000s were rough - but it's mostly due that Pixar took over during these years, alongside the rise of Dreamworks. Dinosaur did 5M, Atlantis did 4.3M, Treasure Planet did 3M, Brother Bear did 3.5M. Those are inferior to most Disney Renaissance films, but still, those are great numbers. Some current Disney movies don't do that much, Ralph 2 only did 2.3M for example. Also note that there's a Disneyland Park near Paris... Which also strengthens the power of Disney in the country. Edited August 13, 2019 by Linkinitouille 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omni Posted August 13, 2019 Share Posted August 13, 2019 Pretty crazy to see that Treasure Planet did 3M admissions in France. That's like 1/4 of its entire OS gross. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gabriel Sales Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 On 8/13/2019 at 5:27 AM, Linkinitouille said: Playmobil confirms it's failure, despite being screened in 600+ cinemas. It should not go higher than 400k and will have its number of screenings drastically reduced. The market was already saturated, and the movie is followed closely by TS4 which is in its 7th week. TS4 also shows signs of stability after its huge drop last week due to the arrival of Pets 2. I believe no one expected a hit, but I agree that the failure is 'too' due to market saturation, in fact this year the only animated film we can consider a success is Toy Story 4. However, the fact that Playmobil is being butchered by critics contributed to people losing interest in the movie. The film's director, Lino DiSalvo, had never directed a movie in his career, the writers had never written anything either, unfortunately for fans of the brand, Playmobil: The Movie was an 'announced tragedy'...!!! 😭😭😡😡 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 CineDirectors prediction: Rang Titre Entrées Variation hebdo Cumul (Millions) Budget Nbre de salles 1 Once upon a time in... Hollywood 1 200 000 New 1,200 90 M$ 550 2 Le roi lion 735 000 - 25 % 8,668 - M$ 680 3 Fast & furious : Hobbs & Shaw 680 000 - 40 % 1,811 200 M$ 809 4 Comme des bêtes 2 440 000 - 20 % 1,651 80 M$ 767 5 Dora et la cité perdue 0 000 New 0,000 49 M$ 500 6 C'est quoi cette mamie ?! 275 000 - 35 % 0,700 6,4 M€ 425 7 Playmobil, le film 125 000 - 30 % 0,302 - M€ 604 8 Toy story 4 125 000 - 20 % 4,295 - M$ 680 9 Spider-man : Far from home 105 000 - 25 % 3,150 160 M$ 625 10 Je te promets d'être sage 0 000 New 0,000 2,7 M€ 169 Once upon... seems to have a great opening. If the prediction comes true this would be Tarantinos biggest above the OWeeks of Django Unchained (1,13M) and Inglourious Basterds (940k). http://www.cine-directors.net/boxbis.htm 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
titanic2187 Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 TLK basically beat EG in every Europe territory. 10m potential admission is crazy, i can't even recall if any local breakout did that in recent year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 34 minutes ago, titanic2187 said: TLK basically beat EG in every Europe territory. 10m potential admission is crazy, i can't even recall if any local breakout did that in recent year. The last french movie to get to 10M+ was Serial (Bad) Weddings. 10M+ movies in the last ten years: 2009: Avatar 14,68M 2011: Intouchables 19,49M 2014: Serial (Bad) Weddings 2 12,37M 2015: SW7 10,51M 2019: TLK 10M+? http://www.jpbox-office.com/charts_france.php 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristis Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 On 8/13/2019 at 3:02 PM, VenomXXR said: It seems France and the Netherlands are the biggest overperformers in Europe, with Spain and Portugal close by. Just now, Aristis said: The last french movie to get to 10M+ was Serial (Bad) Weddings. 10M+ movies in the last ten years: 2009: Avatar 14,68M 2011: Intouchables 19,49M 2014: Serial (Bad) Weddings 2 12,37M 2015: SW7 10,51M 2019: TLK 10M+? http://www.jpbox-office.com/charts_france.php And this is why I'd say that Portugal is even more impressive: the french market can potentially do better. Still, it's just huge! It would be just the 25th to have more than 10M... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parasite Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Qu'est ce qu'on a fait au bon Dieu ? did 12 million admissions, but that was back in 2014. French films are doing quite badly recently with only C'est quoi cette mamie ?! (probably) passing the 1 million admissions mark. Here's some movies that could achieve it in the next months. La vie scolaire is Grand Corps Malade (a writer / singer)'s return after 2017's well-liked Patients which did 1,2 M. It opens in two weeks. La vérité si je mens ! Les débuts is a prequel to the Vérité si je mens trilogy. The first and third ones did 5M, the second did almost 8M. A big drop from the previous ones should be expected. The movie is holding previews at UGC (a major theater chain) 's Semaine de la comédie. In late October opens what should be the biggest of these. Hors Normes is Nakache / Toledano' s new film. After the enormous success of Intouchables, both Samba and Le Sens de la fête crossed 3M. This one premiered in Cannes (and nationwide previews) to raves and opens in the typical French blockbuster slot. I'm expecting 5M but it could change a lot in the next weeks. Finally, Les Misérables, which won Prix du jury opens late November. Polisse did 2M +. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parasite Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Top 15 07.08 - 13.08 1 Hobbs & Shaw Semaine n1Nb Salles : 809 1 131 141 1 131 141 2 Le Roi Lion (2019) Semaine n4Nb Salles : 678 979 701 7 932 664 3 Comme des bêtes 2 Semaine n2Nb Salles : 731 551 753 1 262 634 4 C'est quoi cette mamie?! Semaine n1Nb Salles : 425 425 738 425 738 5 Playmobil, Le Film Semaine n1Nb Salles : 604 176 947 176 947 6 Toy Story 4 Semaine n7Nb Salles : 584 157 651 4 170 035 7 Spider-Man: Far from Home Semaine n6Nb Salles : 473 139 759 3 044 380 8 Crawl Semaine n3Nb Salles : 373 73 407 422 889 9 Parasite (2019) Semaine n10Nb Salles : 324 67 101 1 473 889 10 Annabelle 3 - La Maison . Semaine n5Nb Salles : 321 62 996 887 075 11 Anna (2019) Semaine n5Nb Salles : 345 45 946 686 007 12 Yesterday Semaine n6Nb Salles : 243 40 402 627 132 13 Le Coup du siècle (2019) Semaine n4Nb Salles : 208 39 499 336 759 14 Midsommar Semaine n2Nb Salles : 201 34 391 95 809 15 Une Grande fille Semaine n1Nb Salles : 61 30 666 30 666 That's ok/good for H&S. Outstanding hold for TLK and mind blowing for Parasite (+2%. Last week was - 5% and the one before was flat). Headed for 1,6M. http://www.jpbox-office.com/mobile/top20.php?view=2 Paris / Périphérie about 8300 for Once upon a time in Hollywood. Inglourious Basterds did 6200. Ciné-directors's projection is reasonable. Will probably end with around 3M admissions (second best for Tarantino). 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VENOM Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, Aristis said: CineDirectors prediction: Rang Titre Entrées Variation hebdo Cumul (Millions) Budget Nbre de salles 1 Once upon a time in... Hollywood 1 200 000 New 1,200 90 M$ 550 2 Le roi lion 735 000 - 25 % 8,668 - M$ 680 3 Fast & furious : Hobbs & Shaw 680 000 - 40 % 1,811 200 M$ 809 4 Comme des bêtes 2 440 000 - 20 % 1,651 80 M$ 767 5 Dora et la cité perdue 0 000 New 0,000 49 M$ 500 6 C'est quoi cette mamie ?! 275 000 - 35 % 0,700 6,4 M€ 425 7 Playmobil, le film 125 000 - 30 % 0,302 - M€ 604 8 Toy story 4 125 000 - 20 % 4,295 - M$ 680 9 Spider-man : Far from home 105 000 - 25 % 3,150 160 M$ 625 10 Je te promets d'être sage 0 000 New 0,000 2,7 M€ 169 Once upon... seems to have a great opening. If the prediction comes true this would be Tarantinos biggest above the OWeeks of Django Unchained (1,13M) and Inglourious Basterds (940k). http://www.cine-directors.net/boxbis.htm Good! It’s Once upon a time to shine! Edited August 15, 2019 by VENOM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parasite Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 https://twitter.com/boxofficefr/status/1161909380205424640?s=20 Excellent 192k admissions OD for Once. 1, 05+ OWeek if it follows Inglourious Basterds, 1,25+ if Django Unchained. Today is a holiday, so 1,2+ seems right, above the ~950k OWeeks of both Inglourious and Django. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
