Gopher Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Honestly I would have been surprised if families were on the fence about TDKR before the shootings. Not much in this movie that is colorful or family-friendly, especially compared to Avengers. But Aurora means no families will show up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elessar Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 People that don't believe the shooting had a big effect are just trolling at this point.As Baumer said, there may be another reasons, but the shooting had a big effect. There is no denial.It had an effect. How big is pure speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesypoofs Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 So you think it had no effect? Just curiousI would say that it was effected $5M, tops. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moviefanatic Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Here's my semi rant:This tragedy has affected the opening weekend numbers, I believe that and have never denied it. The thing I don't buy into is that it is the only reason for the "soft numbers". This event is disgusting, despicable and horrific. Yes, it is is keeping people home.But to all of you saying that it is the only reason, is that really fair? There are about a dozen or more examples of films that have faltered on their third film. I realize the opening weekend should be where it excels, but the Joker/Heath effect cannot be over looked. Isn't that fair to say?There are numerous factors to this, the shooting is definitely one, but not the only one.Good post. The shooting had an effect but there could also be other factors as well. For example, no joker, avoiding crowded theaters, or maybe even WOM. Not sure what the WOM on this movie is at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Futurist Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Here's my semi rant:This tragedy has affected the opening weekend numbers, I believe that and have never denied it. The thing I don't buy into is that it is the only reason for the "soft numbers". This event is disgusting, despicable and horrific. Yes, it is is keeping people home.But to all of you saying that it is the only reason, is that really fair? There are about a dozen or more examples of films that have faltered on their third film. I realize the opening weekend should be where it excels, but the Joker/Heath effect cannot be over looked. Isn't that fair to say?There are numerous factors to this, the shooting is definitely one, but not the only one.Agreed.Well it s funny you said that because earlier today, your posts told a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riczhang Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 (edited) That is for today, not yesterday.That is just trolling. Shootings have a big if not huge effect on the BO. Period, end of story, anyone who says it has had no effect at all is ether in denial or plain stupid. Edited July 21, 2012 by riczhang 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 I would say that it was effected $5M, tops.so I'll say again, Dark Knight Rises was going to perform like a Twilight movie from the very beginning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 For what its worth, sellouts are up here tonight exponentially. Everything since 4:00 has sold out and they've been showing it every 20-30 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJohn Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 The Saturday may be lower than 40M. That is just plain bad. The effect is huge in this number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoursTruly Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 It had an effect. How big is pure speculation.This. The coming weeks will tell the story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VGPOP Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 I am about to catch 745pm show and this theater is NOT Full. This is unbelieveable for this type of magnitude of a movie on an opening weekend first Saturday in which opened on Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moviefanatic Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 I would say that it was effected $5M, tops.Fair enough. Was just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Agreed. I feel slightly different from you though. I think the tragedy is having a bigger impact than what you seem to feel, but I think it's pretty apparent that this would have struggled to 180 - 185ish without the tragedy. It's obvious the 200 m ow was never in play.And I have no problem with people disagreeing with me. We are all entitled to our opinions. I could be wrong, maybe it is having a bigger effect than I think it is. But I do believe unequivocally that the film was massively over predicted because of TA's success. And I will stand by that no matter what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 so I'll say again, Dark Knight Rises was going to perform like a Twilight movie from the very beginning?If by that you mean it was going to fall off more than the average film does after its midnight, yes. It is the finale of a big film franchise, so the frontloading becomes a bit more front-heavy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baumer Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Agreed.Well it s funny you said that because earlier today, your posts told a different story.No it didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheesypoofs Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Oh really? This movie might not even reach 160m. That's how much it was always going to make? Bullshit!The fact is, even on opening day alone this movie was doing weak. It only made 46m outside of the midnights. That is just not good, no matter how you spin itIt will fly by 160, and how exactly is 46M outside of the midnight numbers not good? Seriously, I want to know how that is not good. That's a fantastic number. Fanboys were just so bent on this beating The Avengers, or getting 100M OD that anything below is disappointing. Which is sad, because it was never going to do that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cory Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 Here's my semi rant:This tragedy has affected the opening weekend numbers, I believe that and have never denied it. The thing I don't buy into is that it is the only reason for the "soft numbers". This event is disgusting, despicable and horrific. Yes, it is is keeping people home.But to all of you saying that it is the only reason, is that really fair? There are about a dozen or more examples of films that have faltered on their third film. I realize the opening weekend should be where it excels, but the Joker/Heath effect cannot be over looked. Isn't that fair to say?There are numerous factors to this, the shooting is definitely one, but not the only one.I could definitely see it being a strange/underwhelming film for a lot of people, so maybe my revised floor would have been 175M (5% less tickets than TDK). But that's something we'll never know so it's not worth dwelling on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nAlkaline Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 I would say that it was effected $5M, tops.I would give it about 10M at the most. I thought 175M or so was the target, and anything over that would have been tremendous. Of course, I also thought that TDK's OW was a bit inflated from a few factors, so this explains my dampened enthusiasm in comparison to some of the 200M OW predictions. It's unfortunate from a purely quantitative perspective that we'll never know now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Futurist Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 The tragedy is having an effect.To what extent is anyone's guess and very hard to determine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted July 21, 2012 Share Posted July 21, 2012 It will fly by 160, and how exactly is 46M outside of the midnight numbers not good? Seriously, I want to know how that is not good. That's a fantastic number. Fanboys were just so bent on this beating The Avengers, or getting 100M OD that anything below is disappointing. Which is sad, because it was never going to do that.have you not been following any of this thread at all? It is not just opening day (which was weak to begin with) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
