The Futurist Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 This weekend might not be that good considering that the Olympics are starting.You are just killing me your Olympics nonsense.Did you know what happened 4 years ago when TDK was released ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTF Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 That is major bullshit right there. What an arrogant post to claim that there was "evidence" for sub-500m. Probably you should have done some research. Nearly every predictor site had it over 500m. The pre-sales determinate OW, hardly the legs and total, so that's a weak argument as well. Fact remains that we will never know and the only real number that we can discuss is the 30m midnights, which decide nothing.Totally agree...this would have hit $500m if not for the horrible shooting, I am 100% confident in that. And the constant back and forth going on with the doubters (or whatever you want to call them), and uncertainty/what could have been with this movie, will literally make this (for me) the most frustrating movie to follow and talk about box office wise ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biggestgeekever Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 That is major bullshit right there. What an arrogant post to claim that there was "evidence" for sub-500m. Probably you should have done some research. Nearly every predictor site had it over 500m. The pre-sales determinate OW, hardly the legs and total, so that's a weak argument as well. Fact remains that we will never know and the only real number that we can discuss is the 30m midnights, which decide nothing. I actually agree with this more than I thought I would. All of us that were in the $200m range (including myself) were predicting far higher midnights, yes, but that doesn't mean because it was "just" $30m that it was a virtual lock to do less. Extrapolating from midnights is incredibly difficult, and I recall people believing underpredicting Hunger Games when the midnights were $19.7m rather than the $25m initially reported. Plenty didn't believe the OW record was going down when Potter did $43.5m and (quite implausibly here) when Avengers midnights were reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Alfred Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) According to who was it unlikely? Every sign indicated 500m+. It still has a slim chance if people who skipped the OW will start to turn up on its second and third weekend. Edited July 24, 2012 by The Dark Alfred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sims Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-user-polls/post/colorado-theater-shooting-will-you-see-the-dark-knight-rises/2012/07/20/gJQAXBX0xW_blog.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandias Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Totally agree...this would have hit $500m if not for the horrible shooting, I am 100% confident in that. And the constant back and forth going on with the doubters (or whatever you want to call them), and uncertainty/what could have been with this movie, will literally make this (for me) the most frustrating movie to follow and talk about box office wise ever.Its amusing how you guys are so certain of 500m without the shooting and that everyone who says otherwise is an idiot even though this film didn't have as much going for it as TDK. Expected Nolanism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieGuyKyle17 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) By the way just saw a Dark Knight Rises ad during Sportscenter Edited July 24, 2012 by MovieGuyKyle17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Futurist Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest adjusted is 511 m. And you are telling me that the sequel from one of the most cherrished and most successful movie in the last 15 years from one of the most important directors of its generation putting its stamp on the most popular supehero in the USA WASN'T BOUND TO MAKE AT LEAST 500 M DOM??? GET A GRIP PEOPLE, PLEASE !!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Alfred Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 (edited) Its amusing how you guys are so certain of 500m without the shooting and that everyone who says otherwise is an idiot even though this film didn't have as much going for it as TDK. Expected Nolanism. Or perhaps we're wondering why someone would post such a comment before checking the overseas numbers? Nolasim is realism when it comes to our TDKR predictions. All the OS figures are in line with expectation. The US box office is in limbo, it's useless to talk about success or disappointment at this point. Edited July 24, 2012 by The Dark Alfred Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTF Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Its amusing how you guys are so certain of 500m without the shooting and that everyone who says otherwise is an idiot even though this film didn't have as much going for it as TDK. Expected Nolanism.You have no idea what you're talking about and I am not calling those who disagree idiots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sims Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Its amusing how you guys are so certain of 500m without the shooting and that everyone who says otherwise is an idiot even though this film didn't have as much going for it as TDK. Expected Nolanism.You keep saying this film had nowhere near what TDK had going for it, but so far the only evidence you and anyone else have brought up is the tired Heath Ledger excuse. TDKR comes off a predecessor with considerably better WOM and DVD sales than TDK's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt Disney Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Totally agree...this would have hit $500m if not for the horrible shooting, I am 100% confident in that.It wasn't going to hit $600M though, so in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't matter. It will still be the number 2 movie this year, just like it would have been before the shooting, unless The Hobbit breaks out, but that's Warner Bros also, so it's not a big deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMan89 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Ugh, I am already so sick of the fanboys using the tragedy for their 500m+ delusions of grandeur. Their was clear as day evidence all along that this would not get close to TDK unadjusted and many of us provided them and told you guys that for months. The fact of the matter is the tragedy simply can not and will not knock 50 or 100m off the total gross and fanboys trying to say it will are using it for their own disgusting means. Did it affect the OW? Of course, no one's denying that. The extent to which it effects it after that though will be minimal at best. People are not going to stay away from the theater forever because of what happened. In fact its multi will likely be improved on whatever it would have been without the incident as people who stayed away on OW gradually go see it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTX Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 This is like 9-11, although on a smaller scale. Of course it affected grosses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luxneji Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 http://www.washingto...BX0xW_blog.htmlthere proof that it did hurt the box-office even if it only lost around 15% of his audience that would have given a weekend of 180 more or less this was heading for a lot bigger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonytr87 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Ugh, I am already so sick of the fanboys using the tragedy for their 500m+ delusions of grandeur. Their was clear as day evidence all along that this would not get close to TDK unadjusted and many of us provided them and told you guys that for months. The fact of the matter is the tragedy simply can not and will not knock 50 or 100m off the total gross and fanboys trying to say it will are using it for their own disgusting means. Did it affect the OW? Of course, no one's denying that. The extent to which it effects it after that though will be minimal at best. People are not going to stay away from the theater forever because of what happened. In fact its multi will likely be improved on whatever it would have been without the incident as people who stayed away on OW gradually go see it.The impact will last for weeks. Check twitter, dude. An endless stream of people waxing concern about going to see the movie, specifically that movie. And as the media continues to infer dubious connections between the shooting and the movie itself, it'll only make it worse. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dark Alfred Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Ugh, I am already so sick of the fanboys using the tragedy for their 500m+ delusions of grandeur. Their was clear as day evidence all along that this would not get close to TDK unadjusted and many of us provided them and told you guys that for months. The fact of the matter is the tragedy simply can not and will not knock 50 or 100m off the total gross and fanboys trying to say it will are using it for their own disgusting means. Did it affect the OW? Of course, no one's denying that. The extent to which it effects it after that though will be minimal at best. People are not going to stay away from the theater forever because of what happened. In fact its multi will likely be improved on whatever it would have been without the incident as people who stayed away on OW gradually go see it. You are chatting shit. What evidence are you talking about? Please share. Also we don't know how big the tragedy effected the film. It's clear for every sane person that's it's not minimal. You're trying to quantify it, which is just inhuman. You have absolutely no clue how the media and today's society works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MovieMan89 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 You are chatting shit. What evidence are you talking about? Please share. Also we don't know how big the tragedy effected the film. It's clear for every sane person that's it's not minimal. You're trying to quantify it, which is just inhuman. You have absolutely no clue how the media and today's society works.Not minimal on OW sure. We all agree it knocked at least $20m off. Any person that thinks the whole entire box office run is getting substantially hit by it though is using it as a shield to deflect the fact that it just isn't living up to their wild and unrealistic expectations, and I find that disgusting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redfirebird2008 Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Not minimal on OW sure. We all agree it knocked at least $20m off. Any person that thinks the whole entire box office run is getting substantially hit by it though is using it as a shield to deflect the fact that it just isn't living up to their wild and unrealistic expectations, and I find that disgusting.If the media would STFU about it, I would agree with you. But right now they just keep going on and on about it. I don't think it will have a $100m impact, but if they keep up the bullshit that they've been doing, it could be in the $50m neighborhood. I'm expecting around $415m total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Claire of Themyscira Posted July 24, 2012 Share Posted July 24, 2012 Not minimal on OW sure. We all agree it knocked at least $20m off. Any person that thinks the whole entire box office run is getting substantially hit by it though is using it as a shield to deflect the fact that it just isn't living up to their wild and unrealistic expectations, and I find that disgusting.No, boo boo. That's ^ disgusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
