China Box Office Thread | Deadpool & Wolverine- July 26

[POTUS 2020]

T5						MI5					JW					SW7
Day	Yuab	Daily % +/-	Last Week	Tot Yuan	$Tot	Yuan	Daily % +/-	Last Week	Tot Yuan	$Tot	Yuan	Daily % +/-	Last Week	Tot Yuan	$Tot	Yuan	Daily % +/-	Last Week	Tot Yuan	$Tot
Tues						117			117	18
Wed						79	-32%		196	31	109			109	18
Thur						65	-18%		261	41	80	-27%		189	30
Fri						76	17%		337	53	101	26%		290	47	14			14	2
Sat						128	68%		465	73	170	68%		460	74	195			209	32
Sun	167			167	26	88	-31%		553	87	146	-14%		606	98	134	-31%		343	52
Mon	67	-60%		234	37	30	-66%		583	92	53	-64%		659	106	50	-63%		393	60
Tues	57	-15%		291	46	25	-17%	-79%	608	96	49	-8%		708	114	42	-16%	Est	435	66
Wed	47	-18%		338	53	23	-8%	-71%	631	99	43	-12%	-61%	751	121	35	-16%	Proj	470	72
Thur	37	-21%		375	59	20	-13%	-69%	651	103	35	-19%	-56%	786	127	30	-16%		500	76
Fri	38	3%		413	65	28	40%	-63%	679	107	46	31%	-54%	832	134	41	36%		541	83
Sat	62	64%		475	75	50	79%	-61%	729	115	97	111%	-43%	929	150	71	75%	-64%	612	93
Sun	52	-17%	-69%	527	83	40	-20%	-55%	769	121	98	1%	-33%	1027	166	50	-30%	-63%	662	101
Mon	21	-59%	-69%	548	86	14	-66%	-55%	783	123	66	-33%	25%	1093	176	18.0	-64%	-64%	680	104
Tue	17	-17%	-69%	566	89	12.7	-7%	-49%	795	125	24	-64%	-51%	1117	180	15.0	-17%	-64%	695	106
Wed	21	18%	-56%	586	92	11.5	-9%	-50%	807	127	22	-8%	-49%	1139	184	12.6	-16%	-64%	707	108
Thu	36	72%	-4%	622	97	10.4	-10%	-48%	817	129	21	-5%	-40%	1160	187	10.6	-16%	-64%	718	110
Fri	34	-3%	-9%	656	103	5.2	-50%	-81%	822	129	22	5%	-52%	1182	191	14.3	35%		732	112
Sat	24	-31%	-62%	680	107	11.0	112%	-78%	833	131	40	82%	-59%	1222	197	25.0	75%	-65%	757	116
Sun	12	-48%	-76%	692	108	8.5	-23%	-79%	842	132	36	-10%	-63%	1258	203	17.5	-30%	-65%	775	118
Mon	8.5	-30%	-60%	700	110	4.3	-49%	-68%	846	133	16.0	-56%	-76%	1274	205	6.5	-63%	-64%	781	119
Tue	2.7	-68%	-85%	703	110	4.4	2%	-65%	851	134	17.4	9%	-28%	1291	208	5.4	-17%	-64%	787	120
Wed	2.6	-3%	-87%	706	111	1.2	-73%	-90%	852	134	15.4	-11%	-30%	1307	211	4.6	-15%	-63%	791	121
Thu	2.5	-4%	-93%	708	111	2.5	108%	-76%	854	135	12.0	-22%	-43%	1319	213	3.8	-17%	-64%	795	121
			Tot	724	114			Tot	870	137			Tot	1400	229			Tot	845	128

I did yesterdays table with average drops. This is how looks with the way its shaping up w poor WOM and it could get worse than this. KFP3 opens at the end of this table. It will make very little after that. I put just $7m more

 

[jb007]

1 minute ago, Baumer said:

@jb007 usually we are on the same page but im taking the other side this time. I dont think anyone was speaking disparagingly about Star Wars. I think you misunderstood what he was saying.

 

Baumer: I felt he was trying to imply that the majority opinion was not correct since he felt otherwise. 

 

I wish that the poster @Tower would clarify whether that was his intention or he was taking @JonathanLB literally that every guy likes Star Wars. Nobody can be that naive in life to think that something will be liked by everybody. 

[terrestrial]

23 minutes ago, FranMan said:

That's fairly decent for a 2012 BO, yes?

I edited my earlier post with additional details about 2009, 2013 and 2015 (all data via BOM)

[Tower]

38 minutes ago, jb007 said:

But you think your opinion is part of the majority opinion considering that SW has been the most dominant franchise in movie history. The 7th movie in the franchise brushed aside the previous record holder in NA like it was nothing. Wake up and smell the coffee.

 

SW is obviously very popular, it would be silly to try and dispute that. I was responding to someone who just assumed that every guy has to like SW, and if you didn't you must be a girl.

[The Gotham Bank]

1 hour ago, FranMan said:

 

China has the Golden Rooster Awards, one of several, which is its Oscar equivalent.  

 

But hey, don't let this trivial get in the way of your cheap jab.

 

LOL, calm your pants, buddy. It was a joke. Got nothing against China, but I do have something against whiney people who feel offended by everything.

[Agafin]

46 minutes ago, James said:

Oh, please, don't start this. SW = US and, to some extent, UK. That's pretty much it. It's not even remotely close to being the biggest movie franchise in history on a WW level.

Just out of curiosity, what's the biggest movie franchise then?

[terrestrial]

1 minute ago, Agafin said:

Just out of curiosity, what's the biggest movie franchise then?

not movie, but the biggest franchise I know about (movies, tv-Series, books, graphic novels,..) is the story about RL back ~ 250y living Musashi (rings,...)

[FranMan]

16 minutes ago, TigerPaw said:

 

TDKR came out with Amazing Spiderman... and the latter is more popular with chinese audiences and has 3D showtimes yet TDKR won. The next weekend I believe Expendables 2 came out, and no1 knew Jet Li was just having a cameo role. Not forgetting TDK did not even get shown in Chinese theaters. Yes, I don't think TDKR did extremely well, but I think it performed beyond the expectations of many with a bad release date, and lack of 3D cinemas.

 

I guess Spidey can be a trump card for Civil War in China if Marvel shows him in their marketing.

 

 

6 minutes ago, terrestrial said:

I edited my earlier post with additional details about 2009, 2013 and 2015 (all data via BOM)

 

Cheers for the breakdown.

[FranMan]

5 minutes ago, The Gotham Bank said:

 

LOL, calm your pants, buddy. It was a joke. Got nothing against China

 

My bad. It's hard to read humour online.

 

6 minutes ago, The Gotham Bank said:

 

but I do have something against whiney people who feel offended by everything.

 

As do I. 

[terrestrial]

1 minute ago, FranMan said:

Cheers for the breakdown.

I guess you understand now why I am happy with all above SPECTRE = $83m?

[POTUS 2020]

1 hour ago, efialtes76 said:

Falling like a rock.

 

1 hour ago, Elessar said:

 

Seems like a pretty normal monday drop to me, JW dropped 64%. Or are you saying because it's its 3rd day the drop should have been less?

 

1 hour ago, The Good Olive said:

JW was more a family movie, it had big increases on weekends, I think EP7 won't increase as much.

AOU fell 73% on its first and second Monday. JW skewed older as it drew demos outside the young male driven SH/scyfy genres

AOU then bumped 40%/80% on Fri/Sat like spidey and others. 65% is not bad. Tomorrow hold is critical as well as Fri bump.

[jb007]

20 minutes ago, Tower said:

 

SW is obviously very popular, it would be silly to try and dispute that. I was responding to someone who just assumed that every guy has to like SW, and if you didn't you must be a girl.

 

Ok.

 

I think you may taken that every guy likes Star Wars too literally. 

 

I think all guys certainly like one thing.  

Edited January 11, 2016 by jb007

[terrestrial]

1 minute ago, jb007 said:

Ok.

I think you may taken that every guy likes Star Wars literally. 

I think all guys certainly like one thing.  

My  impression about the poster's posts at dom....  he/she reacted to? Means ~ every word

 

 

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[James]

19 minutes ago, Agafin said:

Just out of curiosity, what's the biggest movie franchise then?

Potter is bigger for once. Marvel too, but that should not be counted as a franchise, considering it is basically 4-5 franchises combined.

[Cynosure]

Potter is definitely bigger outside of the English-speaking world.

[MonstersandRoy]

2 hours ago, IronJimbo said:

My guess is without nostaglia glasses the Chinese see the film for how it actually is.

 

Well it's not a standalone movie, so prior knowledge (which i guess nostalgia falls into) of the events/characters in the previous film, would dampen reaction to a film. Nostalgia is not a bad thing, it is something that is important to franchises like Star Wars. If I went in and lets say watched the 4th Hunger Games movie for example, without seeing the previous film, I'd think it's garbage. I wouldn't care about characters as much. There is continuation in Star Wars throughout the movies, they are linked. So watching the 7th, without watching the previous 3 or 6 would be damaging to the experience. To me this is the obvious reason why reaction isn't as strong in countries where Star Wars has never been released wide to the public before like China or has been big a thing.

 

I know there is no convincing you on this @IronJimbo , because you have prior dislike for Star Wars anyway.

 

I'm sure there are film's that hold nostalgia in China that are well loved. Nostalgia is not necessarily a bad thing.

 

Have they ever re-released the original Star Wars movies wide in China?

 

Personally, with more and more Star Wars movies released wide over the coming years, I see reaction and viewer numbers improving in China as Star Wars creates it's own nostalgia in China.

 

Edited January 11, 2016 by MonstersandRoy

[terrestrial]

8 minutes ago, MonstersandRoy said:

Have they ever re-released the original Star Wars movies wide in China?

Disney (and FOX, the distribution rights holder of at least one of the old ones) signed in autumn / winter 2015 a contract with a streaming company.

In the first month every movie had to be paid seperatedly, later on it was all incl. with their montly fee.

The per view pay seemed a bit high in relation to the monthly costs, I'll look into that part of the Chinese indutry on summer or so, looks like it could get interesting to follow.

[IronJimbo]

4 minutes ago, MonstersandRoy said:

 

Well it's not a standalone movie, so prior knowledge (which i guess nostalgia falls into) of the events/characters in the previous film, would dampen reaction to a film. Nostalgia is not a bad thing, it is something that is important to franchises like Star Wars. If I went in and lets say watched the 4th Hunger Games movie for example, without seeing the previous film, I'd think it's garbage. I wouldn't care about characters as much. There is continuation in Star Wars throughout the movies, they are linked. So watching the 7th, without watching the previous 3 or 6 would be damaging to the experience. To me this is the obvious reason why reaction isn't as strong in countries where Star Wars has never been released wide to the public before like China or has been big a thing.

 

I know there is no convincing you on this @IronJimbo , because you have prior dislike for Star Wars anyway.

 

I'm sure there are film's that hold nostalgia in China that are well loved. Nostalgia is not necessarily a bad thing.

 

 

JJ Abrams said it works as a standalone movie so I'm not really sure how true what you're saying is. It wasn't really a sequel to 6 either, the benefits to have seeing Star Wars before basically being able to spot all the "epic" references and homages.

 

You're underestimating the fandom power, I've seen reviews which basically say "Thing X wasn't so great, thing Y not the best... but it's Star Wars! 9/10".

 

 

 

[MonstersandRoy]

2 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:

 

JJ Abrams said it works as a standalone movie so I'm not really sure how true what you're saying is. It wasn't really a sequel to 6 either, the benefits to have seeing Star Wars before basically being able to spot all the "epic" references and homages.

 

You're underestimating the fandom power, I've seen reviews which basically say "Thing X wasn't so great, thing Y not the best... but it's Star Wars! 9/10".

 

 

 

JJ Abrams can say what he likes, but it's by no means a standalone, it's just the start of a new chapter. Perhaps works more as a standalone in the west where even people who have not seen Star Wars, kind of know about the characters & elements. If you saw the film(TFA) and read the opening title scrawl, it is full of references to characters from the previous 3 films. I mean the first words

Spoiler

Luke Skywalker has gone missing

 is instantly a connection to the previous 3.

 

Nostalgia is important to Star Wars, like it is with many beloved series in different countries. If that connection isn't there in a country with the 7th in a series, then it's sure the dampen the experience. TFA is a well made film, and a huge critical success (94% RT), unlike the prequels which were not, but they were still Star Wars. The nostalgia in those film's didn't blind audiences in the west.

[pepsa]

20 minutes ago, IronJimbo said:

 

JJ Abrams said it works as a standalone movie so I'm not really sure how true what you're saying is. It wasn't really a sequel to 6 either, the benefits to have seeing Star Wars before basically being able to spot all the "epic" references and homages.

 

You're underestimating the fandom power, I've seen reviews which basically say "Thing X wasn't so great, thing Y not the best... but it's Star Wars! 9/10".

 

 

 

 

It's the same with you and avatar, avatar is an 7/10 movie at max, but your going to bais it anyway