a2k Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Is $180M possible for Pirates? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnack Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 3 hours ago, bruchav said: I know about the growth of the Chinese market in recent years,, but man of steel are not a female lead superhero movie. And none of those 2016/2017 superhero movies released as well, For me the results of Wonder Woman in China are really good, Exactly, why not use more recent one (if Man of steel not being particularly more relevant). Hollywood big Solo SH or DC movie since 2015 Solo SH Ant-Man $105m Doctor Strange $109m Logan: $105.9 million Dc entry: BvS: $95m For the female part with how well RE is doing in China, is it that much of a negative box office wise in that market ? Resident Evil: The Final Chapter: $159m I think the result are good (better than Rogue One) or at least not bad at all, but not particularly really good vs recent big solo entry, both Ant-Man and Dr Strange I think had a better sales to Asian market and we can understand why they did better, but not Logan. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POTUS 2020 Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 1 hour ago, a2knet said: Is $180M possible for Pirates? $170m at best 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fmpro Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 2 hours ago, a2knet said: Is $180M possible for Pirates? 165-170 mill IMO at best 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruchav Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, Barnack said: Exactly, why not use more recent one (if Man of steel not being particularly more relevant). Hollywood big Solo SH or DC movie since 2015 Solo SH Ant-Man $105m Doctor Strange $109m Logan: $105.9 million Dc entry: BvS: $95m For the female part with how well RE is doing in China, is it that much of a negative box office wise in that market ? Resident Evil: The Final Chapter: $159m I think the result are good (better than Rogue One) or at least not bad at all, but not particularly really good vs recent big solo entry, both Ant-Man and Dr Strange I think had a better sales to Asian market and we can understand why they did better, but not Logan. Again, Doctor strange, Logan and Ant man are not female lead superhero movies... And to think that people watch Resident Evil because Alice, is the same as finding that people watch Jurassic World because of human characters, or that people watch Transformers because of the human characters. People watch Transformers because of robots. People watch Jurassic world because of dinosaurs. People watch Resident Evil because of zombies / action, and it is a famous brand of video games, maybe this also has a co-relation, Warcraft was also huge in China. Best result of from Hunger games franchise in China = $37m total, I expected Wonder Woman could have a similar result, that's why I'm finding the Wonder Woman numbers in China really good. Edited June 4, 2017 by bruchav 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalismanRing Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 Hunger Games is a franchise based on a Dystopian world where children are forced to fight and murder each other until they lead a revolution to take down the gov't. Wonder Woman is a SH movie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruchav Posted June 4, 2017 Share Posted June 4, 2017 31 minutes ago, TalismanRing said: Hunger Games is a franchise based on a Dystopian world where children are forced to fight and murder each other until they lead a revolution to take down the gov't. Wonder Woman is a SH movie. A solo female lead superhero movie, tell me more about others female lead superhero movies.. About Hunger games... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barnack Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 2 hours ago, bruchav said: Again, Doctor strange, Logan and Ant man are not female lead superhero movies... Superman is not either making the argument of using MOS instead of those has reference point a bit strange. Quote And to think that people watch Resident Evil because Alice, is the same as finding that people watch Jurassic World because of human characters, or that people watch Transformers because of the human characters. The selling point of WonderWoman is not a human either. Anyway I would need to take you word for it (I have no way to say if a woman is a negative or a positive in a market like China, it is not like we have many precedent of SH woman since China is a relevant market) it was simply to point out that a female lead franchise can make a lot in China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted June 5, 2017 Author Share Posted June 5, 2017 Well, I watched those Resident Evil movies for Milla. didnt care about Hunger Games as I always find YA films/novels silly. I think WW opening to $38m is acceptable, nothing 'great' or 'really good' but 'all right'. To say really good, it should've opened to $45m~$50m, like DS/LOGAN did. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymblcza Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 WW will do 77m in China with 2x legs,it's okay compared to BVS's overseas.Anyway,Marvel is more popular than DC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peludo Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 17 minutes ago, ymblcza said: WW will do 77m in China with 2x legs,it's okay compared to BVS's overseas.Anyway,Marvel is more popular than DC. Sure, Marvel is right now more popular than DC. But the MCU has released 15 films in China. DCU just 3 (SS was not released). That is a big advantage. And two films released at the same time like GOTG2 and WW are not finishing so far one from the other, even more considering that one of them is a sequel and we already know how good sequels use to perform in China. GOTG2 with 685m and WW with 520?... the gap does not seem as big as one could think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olive Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Monday-Thursday hold may be better than usual since College Entrance Exams will be held this week, many of those who don't take exams don't go to school. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Feng Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 MON estimates before service charges Wonder Woman - 31.6m / 280.2mPirates 5 - 16.8m / 934.6m Dangal - 7.74m / 1,070m Doraeiga - 1.53m / 107m Beautiful Accident - 1.21m / 11.43m after service charges Wonder Woman - 33.5m / 297.5mPirates 5 - 18m / 1,002m Dangal - 8.4m / 1,162m Doraeiga - 1.65m / 116.3m Beautiful Accident - 1.3m / 12.2m 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napoleon Posted June 5, 2017 Share Posted June 5, 2017 Wonder Woman drops from Friday to Monday: +33.8% / -20.3% / -58.4% Much better holds than Guardians 2 according to what Gavin posted on the previous page. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alisson23 Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 3 hours ago, Napoleon said: Wonder Woman drops from Friday to Monday: +33.8% / -20.3% / -58.4% Much better holds than Guardians 2 according to what Gavin posted on the previous page. Worse holds would be very difficult to have. But these holds are really incredible. A member here said wom is bad. Imagine WW's holds with a great wom!??!!! Amaaazing!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepsa Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 4 hours ago, alisson23 said: Worse holds would be very difficult to have. But these holds are really incredible. A member here said wom is bad. Imagine WW's holds with a great wom!??!!! Amaaazing!!! Didn't olive said the first 3 days would be inflated so it doesn't realy count. Look at pirates, it's just because some people have off till wednesday. Olive correct me if i am wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepsa Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 18 hours ago, Olive said: Monday-Thursday hold may be better than usual since College Entrance Exams will be held this week, many of those who don't take exams don't go to school. This is what i ment. Let's see friday to friday hold then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ymblcza Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 5 hours ago, alisson23 said: Worse holds would be very difficult to have. But these holds are really incredible. A member here said wom is bad. Imagine WW's holds with a great wom!??!!! Amaaazing!!! Pirate 5 held better than WW,so it's not "incredible". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jiangsen Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 1 hour ago, pepsa said: Didn't olive said the first 3 days would be inflated so it doesn't realy count. Look at pirates, it's just because some people have off till wednesday. Olive correct me if i am wrong. Not sure where you're getting this info. Pirates had a holiday from Sunday to Tuesday. WW opened on a normal FSS. 20 hours ago, Olive said: Monday-Thursday hold may be better than usual since College Entrance Exams will be held this week, many of those who don't take exams don't go to school. Yes, weekday holds this week may be a tad better, but WW held better on Monday than the overall market did. 1 hour ago, ymblcza said: Pirate 5 held better than WW,so it's not "incredible". Again, no it didn't. Pirates first Monday was a holiday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pepsa Posted June 6, 2017 Share Posted June 6, 2017 (edited) 13 minutes ago, jiangsen said: Not sure where you're getting this info. Pirates had a holiday from Sunday to Tuesday. WW opened on a normal FSS. Yes, weekday holds this week may be a tad better, but WW held better on Monday than the overall market did. Again, no it didn't. Pirates first Monday was a holiday. But the sunday monday drop was beter for pirates right? So don't know why you say then the market. Not saying it's a bad hold, i just don't see anything special about it. For me its just good. Edited June 6, 2017 by pepsa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...