dashrendar44 Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 (edited) Ignorant of what? One of the greatest, most revered bands of all-time? I'm not even a huge fan and I acknowledge that. But if you're really going with that *nonsense* I'll trade them out in the analogy with Pink Floyd. Or The fucking Who. It doesn't matter, it's a damn analogy. Well, that explains it all. Sorry but Led Zep is known as one of the greatest plagiarists in rock and roll history . i mean the very introduction of their most revered song Stairway To Heaven is a blatant rip-off of Spirit's Taurus. It's a well known fact and most of the time, they didn't credit or barely acknowledge all of their rip-offs like Whole Lotta Love. Trade that for a better analogy, Pink Floyd will do it though even if I disagree. I'd say Journey or Foreigner. Edited January 12, 2013 by dashrendar44 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Bacon Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 (edited) Well, that explains it all. Sorry but Led Zep is known as one of the greatest plagiarists in rock and roll history . i mean the very introduction of their most revered song Stairway To Heaven is a blatant rip-off of Spirit's Taurus. It's a well known fact and most of the time, they didn't credit or barely acknowledge all of their rip-offs like Whole Lotta Love. Trade that for a better analogy, Pink Floyd will do it though even if I disagree. I'd say Journey or Foreigner. I know all about the theories about plagiarism regarding them. And the ones concerning countless other songs. Ultimately, stuff like that can't be proven. For instance,1992:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeoyOIRIeHsA decade later:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Stu4aXmvVwEAs someone who loves Nine Inch Nails more than most things in existence and can't fucking stand Sully Erna, I don't accuse Godsmack of plagiarism despite the glaring similarities. If a large portion of the lyrics were plagiarized, that'd be much more sketchy.And with no disrespect to Journey or Foreigner, I love them, but I'm not sure they fit there in the analogy, if anything, they're more like KISS than Floyd or The Who.. Edited January 12, 2013 by Kevin Bacon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Since we've veered from most overrated movies of 2012 to overrated films in general... That's what generally happens in threads like this. No one wants to be limited to just one film or to repeat what others have already posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessie Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 (edited) Okay, condescension with a hint of belittling. I'm going to be impolite now.If you are capable of reading, which I am assuming you are given that you perceived at least a portion of my post and ingested it enough to provide this response, you would see that I only mentioned Harry Potter because someone else brought it up in a fit of love for The Avengers. I also commented on how it was a random movie to be discussed here. Cinematography was also previously brought up and that is why I was touching on it. I had little but praise for The Avengers, and at no point did I imply that the film's cinematography took away from it at all. It did its job, and only falls short when put next to movies with cinematography that is not easily matched. Then again, I don't care. I wasn't the one who started the discussion on it.OkI am not a Harry Potter fan by any means, but back to the topic of your reading comprehension, I said pretty clearly that The Avengers was not better than every Harry Potter movie. No, you didn't, you said it wasn't better than 'any' Harry potter movie so there was nothing wrong with my reading and here your comment to prove that...And saying Avengers is better than any Batman movie or more randomly any Harry Potter is silly The earlier movies, absolutely, but say, the last two movies in the franchise were air-tight movies with high-quality acting, direction, drama, etc etc. that were on a level of quality high enough that to simply say "The Avengers was clearly better than any of them" is indeed silly and comes from a place of someone letting their inflated opinion of any given movie interfere with his or her judgement. So its silly for people to think The Avengers is better made than the Harry Potter movies? It's not silly, its about opinion. We can disagree about certain things, its only natural but you call other people silly for not agreeing with you.I would love to see the empirical data you have suggesting that the notion that The Avengers is better than the Batmen and Potters (and pretty much any blockbuster ever while we're at it) is one possessed by the majority of people. And if you give me box-office numbers, you've already allowed your argument to collapse on itself with such an idiotic response to suggest that box-office numbers mean anything more than jack shit in that regard. Avatar made more money than any movie ever but it's safe to say today that if you don't think it is an incredible movie you are by no means part of a small minority.I never said TA was better than all the Batmans, you said all the Batmans were better than TA and said people are 'silly' for thinking otherwise. I haven't mentioned box office either so there no need for the rest of this paragraph, you're just arguing something that hasn't been mentioned and quite frankly is a waste of time to read...Back to the Harry Potter bit, I'm going to use Deathly Hallows as an example here. It outclasses The Avengers in the following ways: acting, dialogue, plot, drama, connection, music, and cinematography on top of that. Direction is up in the air as Joss Whedon did a splendid job and the movie probably wouldn't have worked in less able hands. Avengers obviously wins special effects and comic relief. Most people with a minimal amount of education on what makes movies good and no bias would agree with such an assessment. I don't care what the general audience thinks as they've made a habit of showing that they're fucking retarded, The Avengers being a select example of them actually getting it right. Acting was only good amongst the older actors and the dialogue in TA was great IMO. TA isn't a drama, its comic book entertainment and arguably more entertaining than the Potters in which you mentioned. To most people, entertainment beats out most of which you mentioned. Not caring about what the GA thinks is basically you saying you don't care what the majority think, so does that make your opinion more important than others I say all of this not with some sort of vendetta against The Avengers as you clear have against criticism of the movie, I loved it and saw it twice in theaters and more on Blu-Ray. It is not an opinion but rather a stone cold fact that it was a movie that was light on substance and there's nothing wrong with that, especially considering the incredible feat it accomplished in successfully blending multiple franchises into one coherent movie. But it also puts it in the shadow of other movies that are much deeper in pretty much every way. If The Dark Knight Rises had lived up to the hype, it absolutely would've been the better movie. No doubt about it. The Avengers is KISS, and God knows there's nothing wrong with the energy and sheer spectacle of KISS, but it isn't even fair to compare them to Led Zepplin who are playing a totally different ballgame with a far higher ceiling.ZzzzzNow, Jessie (which I'd like to say is the inferior spelling of the name "Jesse"), I thank you for your rude, condescending comment, but you are in no position to condescend to anybody. I suggest that before replying you actually read to begin with, and then heed your own advice and think before you post.Ah I see you didn't take my advice after all and chose to further embarrass yourself... You might aswell quit now. Edited January 12, 2013 by Jessie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil in the Blank Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 Avengers needed a simple story to work - the movie would have collapsed under the weight of its 6 'stars' if there wasn't a simple story thread holding it all together. The decision for a simple story was 100% the right choice for the film the Avengers needed to be - an excuse to get some super heroes together to kick butt.P.s Jessie - please please please stop. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozymandias Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 P.s Jessie - please please please stop.Lol seriously. Douche bag overload. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Bacon Posted January 12, 2013 Share Posted January 12, 2013 I'm dumbI'm sorry, it's easier this way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessie Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I'm sorry, it's easier this way.Its easier because you knew what you said was a load of crap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessie Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Lol seriously. Douche bag overload.seriously, douchebag is such a lame insult, please come up with something better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riczhang Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Ladies. Please. Civility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil in the Blank Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I perfer the term 'arseclown' myself 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil in the Blank Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Yeah?? And what would a JUSTICE LEAGUE Movie be then??? If WB have any sense, it will have a simple story just as the avengers did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Found another overrated one outside Looper, DU.And IMDb is right with ZDT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jessie Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 I perfer the term 'arseclown' myselfThe more you try to insult, the worse it looks on yourself. Please keep trying because its actually funny to read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zlazer Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Found another overrated one outside Looper, DU.And IMDb is right with ZDT.What that 7.5% thought it was the worst movie ever (1061 people that's 7.5% of the total amount of votes gave it a 1) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sims Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Probably about 90% of those people who gave it a 1 listen to Alex Jones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Marvel Fanboy Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Argo is another overrated one. C+. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Futurist Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 This topic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchumacherFTW Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Argo is another overrated one. C+. Blasphemy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Avengers and TDKR, IMO. Skyfall was the best blockbuster of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
