filmnerdjamie Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 *Shakes head at the "_________ was better than _________!" discussion* 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founder / Operator Shawn Robbins Posted May 4, 2013 Author Founder / Operator Share Posted May 4, 2013 I don't want to write PR off, but I can't see anything apart from giant mecha fighting. Why should anyone care what's happening? Why did anyone care to watch not one but three Michael Bay Transformers movies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fake Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 I do think it helps sometimes (Inception and Avatar being strong examples), but it really only applies to opening weekend when the fans and "less casual" moviegoers turn out for hyped up movies. After that first Sunday, it's all about word of mouth.It helps, but not much.Take Avatar for example. Living in US, you might think that Avatar's success may have something to do with Cameron's name because he is a well known name. But what about India? I bet you that even now if you ask every Indian about James Cameron, not more than 100,000 people will be able to tell you who he is. Avatar was so huge because of its merits, and its merits alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 It also had loads of critics going meh over it and it fell off in a huge way domestically from its predecessor. It increased OS because of TDK goodwill + more markets + ticket price rise. it has 87% rating for 299 reviews with average rating of 8/10. Plus every barometer of wom whether online (IMDB/Flixster etc) or cinemascore are there. While I admit it did not have the same level of reception as TDK there is no doubt about the general perception whether its critical or audience. On its BO its run was tainted. That is all I want to say. Yet it opened to 160M and grossed 445M domestic and there is nothing about that is disappointing except inflated expectations of fans(including myself). Its OS run was great considering nolan never made anything that makes it uber OS friendly unlike marvel flicks. Batman had very limited OS appeal and TDKR at least took it to blockbuster level. It did great in english speaking countries, very well in most of asia(except japan where it did ok), did fairly well in europe and Latin america. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 *Shakes head at the "_________ was better than _________!" discussion* I can judge forum discussions better than you can judge forum discussions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founder / Operator Shawn Robbins Posted May 4, 2013 Author Founder / Operator Share Posted May 4, 2013 It helps, but not much.Take Avatar for example. Living in US, you might think that Avatar's success may have something to do with Cameron's name because he is a well known name. But what about India? I bet you that even now if you ask every Indian about James Cameron, not more than 100,000 people will be able to tell you who he is. Avatar was so huge because of its merits, and its merits alone. Well, yeah. I was really only referring to North America. Worldwide, things are different on a per-country basis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lab276 Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 I don't think there was any way to know... last year when Avengers came out, the entire forum had 2,032 posts. So far, just with yesterday and half of today, we've had 5,498.Are you forgetting a 0 somewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kayumanggi Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Green Lantern ripped my heart out and stomped on it. Hal Jordan is my favorite DC character and I hated everything they did to him in that movie. Seeing that on opening weekend was one of the worst experiences I've had in a theater. I wanted to get up and leave any number of times and I'm sure most of the audience felt the same. Now Green Lantern is pretty much ruined for the movies. There is hope. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Futurist Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 (edited) I know you're not being entirely serious, but Star Wars' advantage was that it had nothing before it. It was a throwback to serials from decades before that presumably couldn't be seen anymore and came in an era of experimentalism and cynicism. It was a film that pretended to be nothing but a fun ride and it was different for it whereas now that's really all we see. It also had a compelling story and, perhaps more importantly, memorable characters that people identified with.I don't want to write PR off, but I can't see anything apart from giant mecha fighting. Why should anyone care what's happening? Without technology, Star Wars would have gone nowhere, the universe Lucas created was amazing but without the tools he created to make that world alive, Star Wars would have been nothing but a bleep on the radar, nothing more. Star Wars was a technological revolution. Edited May 4, 2013 by The Futurist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keysersoze123 Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 They still nearly doubled their expectations, didn't they?Sci-fi genre (especially involving aliens) has given many directors their first megahits. It might very well be Del Tero's turn. Majority of Sci-fi actually bomb. There is nothing I have seen and nothing about the buzz that makes this look like a blockbuster. But I dont mind being proven wrong on this. Let us wait to see how the buzz is built. Currently I have not seen buzz for anything beyond MOS(may be CF but that is a sequel not coming until fall). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founder / Operator Shawn Robbins Posted May 4, 2013 Author Founder / Operator Share Posted May 4, 2013 Are you forgetting a 0 somewhere? That was for the weekend of May 4-6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#ED Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Shawn, we clearly need a forum space for TDKR. The Batcave can't handle it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lab276 Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Why did anyone care to watch not one but three Michael Bay Transformers movies? That is a franchise I don't think I'll ever understand. Certainly the Transformers cartoon might have brought in a few people and maybe Bay's name? It could just an aberration.As you might tell, I'm sill pretty conflicted about PR. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Founder / Operator Shawn Robbins Posted May 4, 2013 Author Founder / Operator Share Posted May 4, 2013 Shawn, we clearly need a forum space for TDKR. The Batcave can't handle it. Heh, I don't think there's any stopping it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Shawn, we clearly need a forum space for TDKR. The Batcave can't handle it. It can, keep the posts there and there won't be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Shawn, we clearly need a forum space for TDKR. The Batcave can't handle it. You guys are STILL talking about it? What is there to say? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoolioD1 Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 I am watching the Liam Neeson version of Les Miserables and it's pretty boring. Give me close ups of Hugh Jackman's tonsils over this any day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jandrew Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 (edited) It helps, but not much.Take Avatar for example. Living in US, you might think that Avatar's success may have something to do with Cameron's name because he is a well known name. But what about India? I bet you that even now if you ask every Indian about James Cameron, not more than 100,000 people will be able to tell you who he is. Avatar was so huge because of its merits, and its merits alone.True. Speilberg, Nolan, Burton,Tarantino, and Bay are probably the only ones GA can recognize. But they dont come to movies for directors so it doesnt matter. They come for actors, story, characters, relevance, and effects. Edited May 4, 2013 by jandrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caboose Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Summer box office time is here :wub: :wub: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Futurist Posted May 4, 2013 Share Posted May 4, 2013 Directors that are brands : Nolan Cameron Spielberg Tarantino Bay Woody Allen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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