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Neither Sleep nor Midway seem interesting to track. Hopefully F2 explodes so that we have something interesting to track besides SW9. I wonder why Marvel did not release a move this November. SW9 AMC Prev - 262033/839679 $3918895.87 (5012 shows) AMC OD - 156538/1074545 $2511942.32 (5251 shows) Cin Prev - 162425/435603 $2100521.00 (2922 shows) Cin OD - 106209/705629 $1231128 11/2 (4294 shows) Obviously slowed down but OD sales are continuing to pace faster than Previews at this point. Show count increase is also happening slowly. I am missing lots of sellouts at AMC and I would say actual number is at least 5-10% higher for previews 1-2% for OD.

Woof both Joker and Mal 2 are having sensation day. Sub 40% drop from last saturday for Mal 2 and Joker is probably looking sub 25% !!!! But this is just AMC. I did not bother to track Terminator. Movie is DOA.

Saw this again on Netflix after a long time. Its so tight that sequels could not be. Sad that sequels always have to be "bigger". This is easily one of the best movies of all time and probably the best action movie ever. A+++

Great. I will watch Knives out for sure. Meh on Midway.

We have numbers from Charlie. that is in line with what I saw at AMC. I am assuming we should see normal increase/decrease on sat/sun. I think it can go as high as 13m. But definitely at least 12.5m+.

At AMC Joker is up tad over 100%. Mal is up 105-106% in tickets but gross is closer to 100% as it lost Imax/PLF.

That Dark Fate number. I guess the movie was doomed the moment they decided to name it Dark Fate. on ticket sales I tracked movies normally doubly their 230-3PM number. Dark Fate is not even 50% up from that time !!!!! AMC - 127460/626537 1851209.93 Cinemark - 97635/494640 1038660 Its time to pull the plug on domestic run as well. Probably will struggle to hit 25m and wont make 60m domestic. WW around 250m at best. Probably closer to 200m.

Do you know anything similar having a bit impact. If cheap tickets would just be enough, every movie should do great with AMC presales as Alist has so many subscribers. But that does not seem to be true for these small releases. Plus these tmobile coupons can be used for more than just previews. So the effect could be spread out.

Again its show is count is very tiny.Obviously early access will depress its previews. So no point in tracking until day before release. This is not a movie that will have big numbers week before release. Terminator numbers were bad as well but Doctor Sleep makes Terminator look big. Compared to Terminator at similar point AMC is 1/3rd and Cinemark is like 40%. Good news. It more than tripled since last update on 10/21 and is way ahead of Midway if that means anything 🙂 Doctor Sleep T-6 AMC - 3325/78518 $43737.16 (442 shows) Cin - 1325/84503 $14588 (508 shows)

That is really surprising. Dunkirk had big hype bcos it is a chris nolan movie. Emmerich has not been a big factor in ages and this is not an easy kind of movie to pull off. Plus Doctor Sleep seem to get most of Imax/PLF as well. Anyway I quickly checked how many shows the movie has and its tiny. Looking like sub 1m previews. So definitely Dunkirk is not a good comparison for this tracking like 10m. Midway (T-6) AMC - 954/39766 304 shows Cin - 812/63283 498 shows

Its done. You can stick a fork to it. Most disappointing China run in a while. One could say SW movies but China was never into those movies. May be SW7 had curiosity factor having crushed OW records but obviously they don’t care about the universe. Transformers 5 did drop quiet a bit from TF4 and so that could be the good comparison. But Transformers movies were record breaking series and had to slow down at some point.

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In theory it should not as it targets older fan base which should make it play more broadly. I would like to wait for numbers today before we can say for sure its going to be big cities driven BO. As I said earlier AMC to Cin ratio for Friday is normal as opposed to Thursday previews leaning heavier on AMC. its doing well today about 103K between 2 chains just past 11 in the morning. It needs to triple that number by night time to hope for it to hit double digit Friday and low teen including previews. Let us see this evening where things stand.

I doubt F2 tickets sales will start before Monday. So < 3 weeks of ticket sales. Will it explode off the blocks like Joker did starting so late. at Empire 25 Joker sold more than 1000 tickets in just day 1. I do not have overall AMC numbers as I started tracking it only from OD of Joker Run.

Its overindexing at AMC for sure looking at Previews. Let us see how the day goes. For now AMC is at 48K tickets sold with almost 2/3 post 6PM while Cinemark is at 27K. Ratio is normal compared to how previews went. I think its playing better in NY region than in smaller towns. Let us see how the weekend goes. Anyway the project is bust as its more than just what the dom OW will be. As I said in the movie thread, it was ridiculous to give this 185m budget after last one failed to even gross 100m domestic !!!!

I would rather JC make another original movie than any more sequels. My fear is he is so vested in Avatar that it will be something like SW for Lucas who never directed anything else. And I thought American Grafitti was terrific. So I hope JC does not stop his career on just Avatar sequels.

I am not sure what was the logic behind giving 185m budget when the last one failed to gross 100m !!!!! Take Trek trilogy. All fairly well reviewed and entertaining. but they failed to break into OS audience and now its better off making Streaming series than movies. May be Terminator will end up there as well. JC once he gets the rights will sell it to the highest streaming bidder.

Obviously he is saying BO is going "UP" today. But not sure how to decipher precise number. Not a huge fan of these antics.

That is not a direct sequel. You could say SW8. But Star Wars movies are unique beast which did not penetrate Chinese audience. Initial expectation for SW7 was higher(I remember Firedeep thinking 1B will happen). But action movies generally do well and so I am surprised by this. Hopefully this is the last one. I dont think this franchise can be revived any more.

Domestically its doing ok. Probably not enough for the budget but a finish ahead of Genesis is likely and may be if WOM is good could go after Salvation domestic as well. OS run is not good, China has been shocking to say the least. I have been following china BO for a long time and I cant think of any sequel that dropped so much !!!!.

Ok. I think its time to pull the plug on this one. Easily the most shockingly bad china run for a movie in my memory if it finishes so much below genesis. what was the last movie to drop so much from the predecessor.

I am just projecting based on PS for OD. its really strong. Looks like finish with higher ticket sales than Mal 2 OD. That did 10m minus previews. This will have fewer kids tickets as well. Plus it targets older audience which tend to be backloaded over the weekend. Reviews being better than Genesis also helps. I am personally not vested in the movie(they should have stopped making these after T2). But from a raw number its not getting outright rejected. if you are not usually a debbie downer my apologies. I was refering to couple of others who come in and only contribution to this thread is pull down movies. I would rather have this thread analyze tracking data and leave the financials and BO success to the movie or daily/weekend BO thread. This movie is not going to making money theatrically(mostly will lose even after streaming). Still our goal here is to predict previews/OD/OW based on the tracking data seen.

I agree. I am seeing something like that as well. Would be closer to 3m than what I thought was possible yesterday. I had pencilled on 45-50K finish this afternoon and its finishing 70K+ between both the chains. I would predict 2.8-3m previews at this point.

Si. Both the movies are up in low teens at AMC. But Mal 2 lost Imax/PLF in the evening. So that could slightly depress the bump. But good day for both of them. Edit: Gross wise Mal 2 is looking at 7% increase. So I would say way lower than how its looking for Joker.

For some reason I thought weekend finished at 551m. But it was actually 851m WW. Yes this is not great. Anyway it does not matter. This movies has made bank already.