Avatar: The Way of Water | 16 DEC 2022 | Don't worry guys, critics like it

[forg]

Take your Time James Cameron

[Clef Ment]

It will release in 2018 and make $1B less than the first one.

[Donald]

Wow

this will struggle to top 300 mill....

[Hatebox]

Eh, they could wait another 10 years and Cameron will still get them to show up in droves. Pity we have another 3 of these though - how long before Cameron does something new?

[Moviedweeb]

It will release in 2018 and make $1B less than the first one.

 

Which would make it the 3rd highest grossing film of all time - only behind two of his other films. Not too shabby.

[Captain Craig]

It may still do well overseas but I expect Avatar 2 to have a huge drop off domestically. 

[The Futurist]

It may still do well overseas but I expect Avatar 2 to have a huge drop off domestically. 

 

Because Americans are such an educated and thoughtful audience, right ?

Please.

[The Futurist]

I still don't understand the feeling of this tread, like, lol, watch Cameron failing big time for the first time.

 

Down, donw  down down down, the sequels are going down except overseas because American audiences won't fall in the trap that Cameron is cooking, AMericans are way too clever for that.

 

It seems personal to a lot of you people.

 

Cameron did something to you ?

 

Still have nightmares about the Na 'vis ?

 

Be brave.

[Captain Craig]

 

Because Americans are such an educated and thoughtful audience, right ?

Please.

 

Wow--just WOW, if ever there was an example of inserting one's own insecurities, assumptions or BS into something this would have to be the example.

 

Wrong

[The Futurist]

Wow--just WOW, if ever there was an example of inserting one's own insecurities, assumptions or BS into something this would have to be the example.

 

Wrong

 

Then why people keep on insisting the movie will go down a lot in the USA but will still make tons of money overseas.

What s the reasonning behind this, I am genuily interested.

Maybe I assumed wrong.

Edited January 14, 2015 by The Futurist

[AniNate]

The NA market is stagnant right now, and it's unlikely to change much in the next 2+ years. Even if everyone who sees Avatar 2 loves it, there's a ceiling for sequels. Everyone saw Avatar out of curiosity, but not everyone will have liked the film and be very motivated to see the sequels. The same thing happened with Star Wars and the Raimi Spider-Man and is sure to happen with Avengers.

[Captain Craig]

Then why people keep on insisting the movie will go down a lot in the USA but will still make tons of money overseas.

What s the reasonning behind this, I am genuily interested.

Maybe I assumed wrong.

Other than it being a flashy feast of eye candy Avatar was a fairly bland movie full of really bad tropes.

In the "real world" I've actually inserted Avatar into a few discussions with co-workers, at both my jobs, and the anecdotal feeling is Meh, it was alright to it was pretty bad, except for the visuals. 

 

Online that sentiment is 100x greater. The rose colored glasses are gone and Avatar's time on DVD/BR has made clear to people it's really not that good. Ergo, domestic drop. Increase overseas cause those markets are still expanding. 

[lilmac]

It will go up against the first SW spinoff then.

[Hatebox]

I thought Avatar 2 dropping domestically was a given. Is it now a controversial prediciton to make? There'll clearly be a few a people who watched the first to check out the 3D and won't return for seconds. And it doesn't matter, it'll still make crazy money.

[kitik]

It will go up against the first SW spinoff then.

 

 

No, it was going to go up against the first Star Wars spinoff in Dec 2016, but now it faces Episode VIII in Dec 2017.

[Cochofles]

The NA market is stagnant right now, and it's unlikely to change much in the next 2+ years. Even if everyone who sees Avatar 2 loves it, there's a ceiling for sequels. Everyone saw Avatar out of curiosity, but not everyone will have liked the film and be very motivated to see the sequels.

 Really? Just like everyone saw Titanic because of Leo (or because of the special effects...or because of the hype...)?

 

 

Funny, whenever Cameron does what he does so well, some people don't want to admit that maybe, just maybe, lots of people saw his films just because the product was solid...it's always curiousity, Leo, shiny colors, 3D, hype, whatever...never the film itself...

Edited January 14, 2015 by cochofles

[AniNate]

Who knows what it'll go up against. Anything could move in or out, and I really doubt both movies would stay on the same date.

[Neo]

The NA market is stagnant right now, and it's unlikely to change much in the next 2+ years. Even if everyone who sees Avatar 2 loves it, there's a ceiling for sequels. Everyone saw Avatar out of curiosity, but not everyone will have liked the film and be very motivated to see the sequels. New fans can make up for those that left. The same thing happened with Star Wars and the Raimi Spider-Man and is sure to happen with Avengers.

By 2017 the ceiling could be broke.

 

JL1

GOTG2

TS4

TI2?

[Neo]

Other than it being a flashy feast of eye candy Avatar was a fairly bland movie full of really bad tropes.

In the "real world" I've actually inserted Avatar into a few discussions with co-workers, at both my jobs, and the anecdotal feeling is Meh, it was alright to it was pretty bad, except for the visuals. 

 

Online that sentiment is 100x greater. The rose colored glasses are gone and Avatar's time on DVD/BR has made clear to people it's really not that good. Ergo, domestic drop. Increase overseas cause those markets are still expanding. 

lol A movie doesn't make 2.7B for just being eye candy. Still meh, not what is Avatar, come 2017 those meh's will be December can't come soon enough.

[Neo]

Who knows what it'll go up against. Anything could move in or out, and I really doubt both movies would stay on the same date.

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