Willowra Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, John Marston said: TLJ was a problem whether you want to admit it or not. Whiffing the TROS was also a gigantic problem since it means the entire sequel trilogy pretty much ended up a dud and leaves no one excited for any follow ups. You also forgot Solo which was the first Star Wars bomb. Also when pretty much the same thing is happening with directors over and over again it doesn't look good no matter how you spin it TLJ wasn't a problem. Nostalgia was. TFA did 2B because of nostalgia. TLJ wasn't going to repeat that. TLJ box office was also boosted by Luke Skywalker. Star Wars' actual box office strength is 1.2B max because the franchise isn't popular in Asian or Latin American countries except Japan. Spider-Man 4 will also face a TFA to TLJ-type box office drop, but no one will blame Amy Pascal for that. Edited March 9, 2023 by Willowra 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipDerby Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 11 hours ago, John Marston said: TLJ was a problem whether you want to admit it or not. Whiffing the TROS was also a gigantic problem since it means the entire sequel trilogy pretty much ended up a dud and leaves no one excited for any follow ups. You also forgot Solo which was the first Star Wars bomb. Also when pretty much the same thing is happening with directors over and over again it doesn't look good no matter how you spin it TLJ was not a problem, I'm sorry but that's just a ridiculous claim to make. Not to get into a giant TLJ argument but that's wrong. Her biggest weakness is apparently directors. There's no way she didn't know what Lord/Miller, Trevorrow, Jenkins, etc had planned for their films. She made reactionary decisions that turned out to be mostly wrong. But again, she's greenlight some of the best SW stuff of all time. And everything right now has been moving in a very good direction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Marston Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, ChipDerby said: TLJ was not a problem, I'm sorry but that's just a ridiculous claim to make. Not to get into a giant TLJ argument but that's wrong. Her biggest weakness is apparently directors. There's no way she didn't know what Lord/Miller, Trevorrow, Jenkins, etc had planned for their films. She made reactionary decisions that turned out to be mostly wrong. But again, she's greenlight some of the best SW stuff of all time. And everything right now has been moving in a very good direction. nope not wrong. TLJ got a hugely divisive reception, dropped more than expected after opening weekend, and probably contributed to the Solo bombing and muting the hype for the grand finale Edited March 9, 2023 by John Marston 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWR Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 27 minutes ago, John Marston said: nope not wrong. TLJ got a hugely divisive reception, dropped more than expected after opening weekend, and probably contributed to the Solo bombing and muting the hype for the grand finale It didn't help Solo, but it had very little to do with its failure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Hades Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 No 50 million payday for Hemsworth for Thor 5 then. They can use that money to bring back Jolie back for Eternels 2.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChipDerby Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 My bet is they start fast tracking the X-Men and F4 movies, because their current characters are running on "fumes" according to what he's saying. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudalb Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 1 hour ago, John Marston said: "Time for other charecters" means "Move bringing the X men into the MCU up on the schuedule". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudalb Posted March 9, 2023 Share Posted March 9, 2023 10 minutes ago, ChipDerby said: My bet is they start fast tracking the X-Men and F4 movies, because their current characters are running on "fumes" according to what he's saying. F4 is already on the fast track and has been for a while, it has a scheduled relase date....tbut, yeah, the X men will put up on the schedule....I suspect Wolverine in Deadpool 3 will be used to get this started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudalb Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 News the new Directors for the Disney Special District in Florida are going to meet and they are going to try to get rid of all Woke from Disney World.......... I hope Iger has the balls to fight them all the way. What se see going on in Florida is pure fascism. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddyxx Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/disney-content-marvel-star-wars-bob-iger-1235346999/?fbclid=IwAR1mv4q1idcVsyy7gp5bL_7cC3WPn1Jbmirr-Tv3sCZDTo5A_tmtAdmbF_8 yall can forget about Eternals 2. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
froztking Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, dudalb said: News the new Directors for the Disney Special District in Florida are going to meet and they are going to try to get rid of all Woke from Disney World.......... I hope Iger has the balls to fight them all the way. What se see going on in Florida is pure fascism. woke in disney world ? what r they gonna ban lgbtq people from disney world or reverse the decision on splash mountain ? i don't think that's within there power ! it's ust a stupid drama by ron to fool his supporters to showoff as a tough guy Edited March 10, 2023 by froztking 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Porthos Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 3 hours ago, JWR said: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Porthos Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Mind I always figured we'd eventually land on a laserdisc/vinyl model where physical media would be a boutique item catered to enthusiasts as opposed to the mass media model of DVD/BR's heyday. Vinyl making multiple comebacks over the decades shows that an enthusiast model can work (for certain values of "work" at least). In a way, it'd be getting to physical media roots. But instead of enthusiasts popping for laserdiscs and the hordes going for rentals, it'd be enthusiasts going for the premiere Blu-Rays/UHD and the mainstream shoppers sticking to streaming/cable. Just a matter of studios deciding whether or not catering to the enthusiasts out there (i.e. folks like me) is worth it or not. Not counting any chickens yet, but comments like the above are a hopeful sign of it happening sooner rather than later. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJG Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Disney's plan to licence content is already kicking in. This is a very big loss for Netflix and a very big get for Peacock and Hulu. New Girl was the 18th most popular show across all of streaming last year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AniNate Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 There are pros and cons to both digital and physical media. I do wish extra features would come back in some form at least like commentaries and deleted scenes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morieris Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) On 3/9/2023 at 2:29 PM, John Marston said: I still have hope for that Doctor Doom standalone film Edited March 10, 2023 by Morieris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudalb Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 I am betting the an MCU film is going to feature a villian who will ba lot like Ron De Santis..guaranteed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudalb Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 15 hours ago, froztking said: woke in disney world ? what r they gonna ban lgbtq people from disney world or reverse the decision on splash mountain ? i don't think that's within there power ! it's ust a stupid drama by ron to fool his supporters to showoff as a tough guy I agree, but that a Governor is even trying to attack free speech should set off alarm bells. That is a pretty big "Canary in the Mine". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...